Home | Webstore
Latest News: OOTP 27 Buy Now - FHM 12 Available - OOTP Go! Available

Out of the Park Baseball 27 Buy Now!

  

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Out of the Park Baseball 25 > OOTP Dynasty Reports

OOTP Dynasty Reports Tell us about the OOTP dynasties you have built!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-01-2005, 02:13 AM   #581
Tiger Fan
Hall Of Famer
 
Tiger Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 9,873
TIGERFAN'S SPORTING DAILY : WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 12, 1947

BASEBALL HALL OF FAME CANDIDATE
LOOKING BACK: CHICK HAFEY
"The greatest World Series performer ever." That sentence or some close variation of it never fails to come up every time someone mentions the name Chick Hafey. It is hard to argue when you look at the stats the former St Louis Cardinals outfielder put up in postseason play. Start with his record 5 homers in the 1930 series and look at the record 41 career rbi's he delivered in 45 series games. He also ranks first all-time in World Series triples, runs scored and total bases.

Hafey is back in the news because having retired from baseball five years ago his name will be featured prominently on the latest Hall of Fame ballot. While he may not be a lock to get an invite to Cooperstown on his first attempt, you certainly have to feel he stands a good shot. Nevermind the postseason heroics, Hafey made his mark during the regular season as well - 9 allstar appearances, 2 gold gloves and the 1929 National League most valuable player award are among the baubles he collected from his playing days.

However, it is the postseason that brings Hafey's name to the forefront. Here are his career playoff stats followed by a recap of each series he appeared in.
Code:

Year Age Tm  Lg G AB  R  H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO AVG  OBP  SLG  RESULT
1927 24  SLN NL 5 20  1  8  1  0  1  3  0  0  1 .400 .400 .600  lost Wsh
1929 26  SLN NL 7 32  6 12  1  2  1  8  0  2  0 .375 .412 .625  lost Det
1930 27  SLN NL 7 33 10 16  1  0  5 13  0  1  1 .485 .500 .970  win NYY
1933 30  SLN NL 7 32  7 10  2  0  0  2  0  0  2 .312 .312 .375  win Cle
1934 31  SLN NL 5 21  5  8  0  2  0  3  1  3  1 .381 .458 .571  win Det
1936 33  SLN NL 7 30  5 11  3  0  2  6  0  2  2 .367 .406 .667  win NYY
1939 36  SLN NL 7 29  3  8  1  2  1  6  1  1  1 .276 .300 .552  win Det
1940 37  SLN NL   Did not play - injured			win
              -- --- -- --  -  - -- --  -  -  - ---- ---- ----
TOTAL         45 197 37 73  9  6 10 41  2  9  8 .371 .398 .629  
1927- The young Cardinals were no match for a veteran Washington squad that would win it's second straight series. Washington had a 29 game winner in George Dumont and he was their number two starter behind Doc Ayers who went 30-6 that season. Just 24, Hafey led the Cardinals with a .400 average and hit the team's only homerun of the series. He tied with 27 year old Jim Bottomley for the team lead in rbi's. Hafey and Bottomley would form the nucleus of the Cards dominant teams of the early thirties.

1929- Another shot at the series but again facing a repeat winner in Detroit. The more experienced Tigers prevailed in 7 hard fought games. Hafey tied for the series lead with Bottomley and Detroit's Dale Alexander by driving in 8 runs. Hall of Fame second baseman Rogers Hornsby was the only Cardinal to better Hafey's 12 hits. Hafey got 4 of his hits in a 20-5 St Louis win in Game 5 and drove in two runs in the 8-6 loss in game 7.

1930- Third time is the charm as Hafey and his mates finally won a series and they did so by beating the mighty Yankees led by Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig and Hack Wilson. It was Hafey who led the series in homers including a pair in a 13-7 Game seven victory. With 104 victories and a 19 game cushion over second place Brooklyn this was probably the best team Hafey ever played on.

1933 - Injuries had ruined the 1931 season for the Cards and in 1932 they lost a 1-game playoff to the Cubs but St Louis was back with a vengance in 1933. Hafey hit .312 in the 7 game series but drove in just two runs. However, he did score 7 runs including the winning marker in a 5-2 game 7 victory over Cleveland.

1934 - The Cardinals had a great year in 1934 and led by 20-game winners Dizzy Dean and Watty Clark had little trouble with Detroit in the series. The Tigers took the opener 4-3 with a run in the top of the ninth but St Louis responded when Paul Dean pitched a 2-hit shutout in Game 2. Brother Dizzy was nearly as good in a 6-2 game 3 win and the Cards would wrap up their second straight World Championship 2 games later.

1936 - The 1935 season was a tight race all the way as 4 teams finished within 5 games of the lead including the Cards who were 4 games back. Chicago and Brooklyn tied for top spot with the Cubs again winning a playoff to advance ending St Louis' shot at a 3rd straight World Title. However, in 1936 it would be St Louis who would win a 1-game playoff over Pittsburgh to get into the Series. Hafey would drive in 2 runs in the 3-2 playoff win over the Bucs and then would get 3 hits in each of the first three series games with the Yankees. He was hitless in a game seven 3-2 victory but still finished with a .367 average in the series.

1939 - One last October memory for a now 36 year old Hafey as he capped a career year with 31 homers and 121 rbi's by hitting a 3-run homer in an 11-5 game seven win over Detroit. Hafey also got game six off to a great start when he drove in Johnny Mize with a first inning double in a 4-0 St Louis win.

The Cardinals would return to the series in 1940 and once again win in 7 games (over the Yankees this time) but Hafey would watch the series from the dugout with rib injury. In 1941 Hafey played 138 games and drove in 76 rbi's as the Cardinals led down the stretch. However, they went into Chicago on the seasons second to last weekend and proceeded to lose 4 straight games and the National League pennant in the process. With youngsters like Stan Musial and Enos Slaughter taking over Hafey could see the writing on the wall and retired after the 1942 season rather than become a bench player with the Cards.

REAL LIFE
From Baseball Library:
One of the hardest-hitting righthanded batters in the game, Hafey had his best years with the Cardinals. It is difficult to assess how great Hafey might have been if not for his ill health, poor eyesight, and constant salary disputes. Hafey had a chronic sinus condition that required several operations and affected his vision. After beanings in 1926, a doctor advised him to wear glasses, and since his eyesight would vary from day to day, he used three different pairs. He became one of the first bespectacled outfielders. He hit safely in 10 consecutive plate appearances in 1931, still a National League record.

In 1932 Hafey joined the Reds, who paid him $15,000, though they were a last-place club. Battling the flu and his sinus condition, Hafey played just 84 games, but hit .344. In 1933 he hit .303, making the first All-Star team (and getting the first hit in All-Star history, a single in the second inning), but his health was not good. His last campaign as an everyday player was 1934. He hurt his shoulder in 1935, but on May 24, played in the first-ever regular season night game. The evening's dampness aggravated his sinuses. He saw the future of night baseball, and realized his career was ending. He retired, sitting out the rest of 1935 and all of 1936, but attempted a comeback in '37, playing in 89 games. He then quit for good, at the age of 34. He was elected to the Hall of Fame 34 years later by the Veterans Committee
Code:
	A COMPARISON = CHICK HAFEY REAL LIFE VS TSN SIM
	    G   AB    R    H   2B  3B  HR  RBI   BA    OBP   SLG   
REAL LIFE 1283 4625  777 1466 341  67 164  833  .317  .372  .526 
TSN SIM   2421 9400 1577 2905 761 132 312 1719  .309  .345  .518

NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION
HYBARGER'S 35 POINTS LEAD PISTONS PAST JAZZ
Fort Wayne Pistons guard Mo Hybarger was named the NBA player of the week last week. It appears he is looking to make it two in a row after pouring in 35 points to lead the visiting Pistons past New Orleans 93-81. Hybarger also had 12 rebounds and 4 assists in the win. Teammate Noah Baldin added 23 points for the Pistons while Daniel Gray led the Jazz with 21.

The Cleveland Cavaliers remain the league's hottest team by beating one of the coldest in an 86-77 victory at Philadelphia. All five Cleveland starters scored in double figures led by Bob *Brannum's 19 points and 17 rebounds.

Elsewhere, Chicago edged Minneapolis 96-94 as AJ Lambert sank a bucket at the buzzer for the win. Vin Concepcion led the Stags with 24 points while Jalon Isenberg and Joe *Fulks topped the Lakers with 22 each. Providence got it's second straight win after 3 losses by beating Kentucky 91-81 while Baltimore beat New York 81-74 despite a career high 20 points from Knicks rookie Paul *Huston.

YESTERDAY'S RESULTS
Baltimore 81 New York 74
Cleveland 86 Philadelphia 77
Chicago 96 Minneapolis 94
Providence 91 Kentucky 81
Fort Wayne 93 New Orleans 81

TONIGHT'S GAMES
New York at Syracuse
Pittsburgh at Fort Wayne
Dallas at Cincinnati
Indianapolis at Kansas City
Kentucky at Buffalo

Code:

		STANDINGS
ATLANTIC	GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
Providence	16	11	 5	.688	 x
Baltimore	11	 7	 4	.636	1.5
Boston		10	 5	 5	.500	3.0
New York	17	 7	10	.412	4.5
Philadelphia	17	 4	13	.235	7.5
					
NORTHEAST	GP	 W	L	PCT	GB
Cleveland	14	11	3	.786	 x
Buffalo		12	 8	4	.667	2.0
Syracuse	14	 9	5	.643	2.0
Fort Wayne	14	 6	8	.429	5.0
Pittsburgh	12	 4	8	.333	6.0
					
MIDWEST		GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
St Louis	13	7	 6	.538	 x
Indianapolis	16	8	 8	.500	0.5
Milwaukee	15	7	 8	.467	1.0
Chicago		 9	4	 5	.444	1.0
Minneapolis	14	4	10	.286	3.5
					
SOUTH		GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
Dallas		17	10	 7	.588	 x
Kansas City	13	 7	 6	.538	1.0
Cincinnati	13	 7	 6	.538	1.0
New Orleans	10	 4	 6	.400	2.5
Kentucky	19	 8	11	.421	3.0

	SCORING LEADERS
1  Mac Thorpe		St Louis	21.7
2  Miguel Dominguez	Buffalo		21.7
3  George *Mikan	Indianapolis	21.0
4  Mo Hybarger		Fort Wayne	20.9
5  Justin Hild		Syracuse	20.5
6  Joe *Fulks		Minneapolis	20.4
7  Jim Cokley		Kansas City	19.5
8  Joe Cunningham	Dallas		19.2
9  Noah Baldin		Fort Wayne	18.9
10 Juan Harrison	Cleveland	18.6

COLLEGE BASKETBALL
*ARIZIN LEADS PIRATES PAST MISSISSIPPI
After being eased into the lineup slowly as a freshman, sophomore forward Paul *Arizin looks to have the makings of a dominant player in the Big East Conference. *Arizin had 22 points and 12 rebounds in the Pirates season opening 88-70 drubbing of Mississippi. As a freshman he played just 10 minutes a game and averaged only 4.3 ppg but with 3 starters gone from last year's squad it was hoped *Arizin would be ready for full-time duty. It is just one game but judging by the performance of *Arizin and the 21 point effort from senior Weston Barlau the Pirates may be much better than the middle of the pack most Big East experts had them tabbed for.

In other action Bradley got 30 points from senior guard Travis Hernandez in an 86-59 win over Mississippi State. One SEC team did have some success yesterday as Tennessee topped Montana State 85-78.

Missouri used tenacious defense to top Rice 81-68. The Tigers forced 13 turnovers and held the Owls to 28% shooting. Hunter Moncrieffe had 16 rebounds and 8 blocked shots.

Eric Lindsay and Josh Richardson each had 25 points as Temple blasted Rider 93-60. Like Rider, Mid Atlantic Conference squad Iona went down to defeat, losing 82-67 to Charlotte. Drexel beat Tennessee-Martin 98-65 behind a 35 point effort from Christian Wilson. Ivy League Princeton suffered a scare but recovered to edge Tennessee Tech 66-63. Finally senior guard Cole Chamlee had 29 points and 6 assists to lead Kent State past Army 77-44.


YESTERDAY'S RESULTS
Kent State 77 Army 44
Bradley 86 Mississippi State 59
Charlotte 82 Iona 67
Seton Hall 88 Mississippi 70
Temple 93 Rider 60
Missouri 81 Rice 68
Tennessee 85 Montana State 78
Drexel 98 Tenn-Martin 65
Princeton 66 Tennessee Tech 63

TONIGHT'S GAMES
Wisconsin at #9 Penn State
#14 Boston College at Manhattan
Oral Roberts at #15 Illinois
Ark-Pine Bluff at #20 Notre Dame
LaSalle at #21 Syracuse
#25 St Louis at New Mexico State
Arkansas State at Iowa
Charleston Southern at Northeastern
Chicago State at Minnesota
Dayton at North Carolina
Delaware State at Arkansas
Hofstra at Eastern Kentucky
Lafayette at Michigan State
Lehigh at Bowling Green
Maine at New Orleans
Marquette at Indiana State
Middle Tenn State at East Carolina
Nevada at Akron
Nicholls State at Pittsburgh
Old Dominon at Depaul
Pacific at Miami (Oh)
Prairie View at Birmingham-Southern
SW Texas State at Kansas
Texas Southern at Bethune Cookman
Towson at Arizona
UNLV at Michigan
Utah State at Santa Clara
Vanderbilt at Gonzaga
Villanova at Colorado State


BOXING
MONTGOMERY NARROWLY OUTPOINTS MANCINI
Philadelphia lightweight Bob Montgomery was lucky to escape with a majority decision over Youngstown, Ohio's Lenny Mancini in a 12-round bout. Perhaps the hometown crowd did enough to sway the judges as from this observer's perspective Mancini had done enough to win the fight. 2 judges had Montgomery winning by a single point while the third scored it dead even but the end result is that Montgomery still only has one career loss to go with 12 victories. The only blemish on his record was by unanimous decision against unbeaten Ike Williams for the World title. Montgomery is expecting another shot at Williams in the new year. Mancini drops to 14-2-3 with the loss.

On the undercard 18 year old middleweight Joey Giardello, a Philadelphia boy, looked impressive in his pro debut knocking out journeyman Gene Buffalo in the 7th round of their scheduled 8 rounder. While he lacks polish, Giradello certainly has the potential to make some noise in the middleweight division.

Finally in Italy, a pair of fighters with aim set on Felix Wouters European Welterweight belt battled to a majority draw. Italian Michele Palermo is 19-6-1 for his career while Bep Van Klaveren, who hails from Rotterdam, is 23-10-2. Van Klaveran,who is 38 years old, lost the title to Wouters when he suffered a broken bone in his hand during their bout at the beginning of August. He was using this fight to decide whether he wants a rematch with Wouters, which the new champ had graciously offered.


ALSO ON TAP TONIGHT

NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE
Chicago at Toronto
Boston at New York

CANADIAN FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS
First game of two-game total point series
Toronto Argonauts at Montreal Alouettes - IPRFU Final
Edmonton Eskimoes at Winnipeg Blue Bombers - Western Final
__________________
Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

Last edited by Tiger Fan; 04-18-2007 at 12:40 AM.
Tiger Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2005, 10:07 AM   #582
rdklein
All Star Reserve
 
rdklein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The other side.
Posts: 773
I really hope Rice beats A&M this week.
rdklein is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2005, 12:35 PM   #583
El Cid Part II
Minors (Single A)
 
El Cid Part II's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Reuniting the Spanish Cookie Elves
Posts: 51
I love Hafey, and get quite irrate when many cite him as a terrible HOF election.

I have poor eyesight and can't hit 70mph in the cage, because of my trouble picking up the ball, yet Hafey was picking up 85+ and breaking balls.

He and Sisler are absolutely great HOFers, because they overcame a terrible handicap in baseball
El Cid Part II is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2005, 01:00 PM   #584
rangers85
All Star Reserve
 
rangers85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Fort Worth, TX...home of the mighty TCU Horned Frogs
Posts: 909
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdklein
I really hope Rice beats A&M this week.
Meanwhile I'm really hoping for a TCU upset of Texas.
rangers85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2005, 01:38 PM   #585
Tiger Fan
Hall Of Famer
 
Tiger Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 9,873
Lots of excitement as the SWC season comes down to the wire. As for Hafey, he was a tremendous playoff performer in my league and should definately make my Hall of Fame someday.
__________________
Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles
Tiger Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2005, 12:00 AM   #586
Tiger Fan
Hall Of Famer
 
Tiger Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 9,873
TIGERFAN'S SPORTING DAILY : THURSDAY NOVEMBER 13, 1947

BOXING
MOORE DEFENDS LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT TITLE
Archie Moore overwhelmed Tommy Yarosz in their World Lightheavyweight title bout from Pittsburgh scoring a 3rd round TKO victory. Yarosz looked to be the better fighter in the first round and the early going of round two before he walked into a crushing hook to the jaw late in the second round. From there Moore took over as Yarosz was clearly hurting. Moore came out swinging in the third round and by the mid-point it was clear Yarosz was virtually defenseless. The referee let them continue for another 30 seconds before calling the fight with 15 seconds remaining in the round.

The win improves Moore's record to 34-2 and sets the stage for a rematch with Lloyd Marshall early in the new year. Moore won a majority decision over Marshall in August to claim the title. Yarosz drops to 27-9 after losing his second title shot. He was knocked out by Marshall in a world championship bout last year.

One other bout of note last night had Jimmy Carter score a 9th round knockout of Allie Stolz in a lightweight battle from Trenton, New Jersey. Carter, a 24 year old New York native, improves to 17-4 and appears ready for a shot at World Champion Ike Williams. 29 year old Brooklyn native Allie Stolz is 17-4-1 but has lost to each of the three top 10 fighters he has faced in the past year.


BASEBALL
HACK WILSON: SWINGING FOR THE HALL OF FAME
Imagine being on a team where you consistantly averaged 40 plus homers and 125-150 rbi's yet you were still considered just the club's third best slugger. That was the fate of Hack Wilson, who despite hitting 428 homeruns over a 10 year period was overshadowed by teammates Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig.

Originally a New York Giant, Wilson was traded to the Yankees for 2B Tony Lazzeri in 1926. Over the next decade he would combine with Ruth and Gehrig to form the bulk of a power-laden lineup known as Murderers Row. Unfortunately the Yankees pitching was nowhere near the level of their offense and they would win just 2 pennants and no World Championships during that span. That did not stop Wilson from becoming the 4th best homerun hitter of all-time behind Gehrig, Ruth and Jimmie Foxx. He won his only MVP award in 1930 when he led the Yankees to their first pennant of the era and he hit .320 with 4 homers in a 7 game series loss to St Louis.

Wilson is up for nomination to the Baseball Hall of Fame but despite a sensational 10 year run he likely does not have the numbers to warrant inclusion. The problem was he only had 10 good years as he really accomplished little before age 28 and by age 37 his career took a drastic downturn. Still, there is little arguing that for a 10 year period Hack Wilson was one of the greatest sluggers of all time.
Code:

		HACK WILSON CAREER STATS
Year Age Tm   G	   AB	 R     H   2B  3B   HR	RBI  AVG  OBP  SLG
1924 24	NY1  120  381	63   110   19	6    8	 59 .289 .358 .433
1925 25	NY1  118  315	60    91   15	1   14	 61 .289 .395 .476
1926 26	NYA   65  236	33    56   12	4    4	 28 .237 .321 .373
	NY1   48   81	13    21    3	2    5	 17 .259 .368 .531
	TOT  113  317	46    77   15	6    9	 45 .243 .333 .413
1927 27	NYA  110  326	53    87   12	5   13	 61 .267 .329 .454
1928 28	NYA  136  459	99   142   29	7   45	142 .309 .404 .697
1929 29	NYA  119  405  104   123   30	2   35	111 .304 .429 .647
1930 30	NYA  144  536  132   169   44	6   45	150 .315 .403 .672
1931 31	NYA  125  441  122   127   27	6   36	115 .288 .426 .621
1932 32	NYA  148  515  128   161   31	5   46	129 .313 .429 .660
1933 33	NYA  144  523  122   157   32	5   55	142 .300 .399 .696
1934 34	NYA  147  512  113   150   38	3   42	112 .293 .417 .625
1935 35	NYA  149  524  124   148   34	2   47	121 .282 .401 .624
1936 36	NYA  142  464  118   129   18	2   44	112 .278 .411 .610
1937 37	NYA  128  405	70   111   20	3   33	100 .274 .359 .583
1938 38	NYA   95  243	37    53    8	2    7	 42 .218 .353 .354
1939 39	NYA    7    6    2     1    0	1    0	  1 .167 .250 .500
16 Years    1945 6372 1393  1836  372  62  479 1503 .288 .395 .591

		POSTSEASON
Year Age Tm  G	AB  R	H 2B 3B	HR RBI	 AVG  OBP  SLG
1930 30	NYA  7	25  7	8  1  0	 4  11	.320 .438 .840
1936 36	NYA  7	23  3	5  0  0	 1   4	.217 .357 .348
Career 	    14	48 10  13  1  0	 5  15	.271 .400 .604

American League MVP 1930
All Star game selection: 1928,1929,1932,1933,1934,1935.1936
Led AL in homers 1930,1932,1933,1935
Led AL in RBI's 1930
Ranks 4th all time in careerhomers and slugging percentage, 
11th in RBI's and 21st in runs scored and walks.


COLLEGE BASKETBALL
WISCONSIN HAMMERS PENN STATE
The 9th ranked Penn State Nittany Lions took one on the chin at home to Wisconsin as the Badgers crusied to an 80-63 victory. Senior guard Walt Emanuel led the Badgers with 29 points while his backcourt mate Doug *Holcomb had 17 points, 14 rebounds and 8 assists. Penn State got 27 points from junior Paul *Walther in a losing cause.

Some great work on the offensive boards and clutch free throw shooting helped New Mexico State upset St Louis 63-62 in college basketball action. The 25th ranked Billikens could not contain Aggie sophomore power forward Alex Humerick, who had 16 rebounds and 13 points. Humerick was 5-for-5 from the charity stripe including a pair with 11 seconds left that increased the New Mexico State lead to 5 points. St Louis got a 3-pointer with 4 seconds left but could not get a foul to stop the clock after that.

In other games involving top 25 teams number 14 Boston College breezed past Manhattan 90-63, 15th ranked Illinois had little trouble with Oral Roberts in a 74-49 victory, number twenty Notre Dame evened it's record at 1-1 with a 90-52 blowout win at home over Arkansas-Pine Bluff. Finally 21st ranked Syracuse got 23 points and 12 rebounds from sophomore forward Mike Quary in a 74-64 win over LaSalle.



YESTERDAY'S RESULTS
Wisconsin 80 #9 Penn State 63
#14 Boston College 90 Manhattan 63
#15 Illinois 74 Oral Roberts 49
#20 Notre Dame 90 Ark-Pine Bluff 52
#21 Syracuse 74 LaSalle 64
New Mexico State 63 #25 St Louis 62
Iowa 89 Arkansas State 44
Northeastern 100 Charleston Southern 61
Chicago State 62 Minnesota 54
Dayton 81 North Carolina 66
Arkansas 77 Delaware State 62
Eastern Kentucky 94 Hofstra 84
Michigan State 91 Lafayette 72
Bowling Green 76 Lehigh 50
New Orleans 74 Maine 51
Indiana State 70 Marquette 59
Middle Tenn State 88 East Carolina 56
Nevada 80 Akron 71
Nicholls State 86 Pittsburgh 61
Old Dominon 87 Depaul 78
Miami (Oh) 78 Pacific 74
Birmingham-Southern 86 Prairie View 67
Kansas 110 SW Texas State 56
Texas Southern 92 Bethune Cookman 80
Towson 94 Arizona 48
Michigan 100 UNLV 66
Utah State 76 Santa Clara 48
Gonzaga 77 Vanderbilt 67
Villanova 104 Colorado State 94

TONIGHT'S GAMES
#2 New York Univ at Buffalo
Mississippi Valley State at #3 Purdue
Pennsylvania at #4 Florida
#6 Oklahoma A&M at Western Kentucky
Florida A&M at #7 Auburn
#8 Alabama at Morehead State
#10 California at Iowa State
San Jose State at #12 Memphis
#19 Indiana at George Mason
Virginia Commonwealth at #22 Kentucky
Oregon State at #23 Wake Forest
#24 Washington State at Siena
Alcorn State at Evansville
Arizona State at Fordham
Ball State at Alabama State
Boston University at South Carolina
Brigham Young at Tulsa
Brown at Wyoming
Cal Poly at Georgia
Central Michigan at Massachusetts
Cleveland State at New Mexico
Colorado at William & Mary
Columbia at St Mary's
Cornell at Valparaiso
Eastern Michigan at Texas Christian
Furman at Colgate
George Washington at Yale
Georgetown at St Bonaventure
Grambling at Georgia State
Hampton at Richmond
Idaho at Illinois State
Idaho State at Dartmouth
James Madison at Kansas State
Lamar at Liberty
LMU at Norfolk State
Louisville at Harvard
Marist at Houston
Marshall at Navy
Montana at Denver
Murray State at Rhode Island
Niagara at UAB
Northern Illinois at Jacksonville
Northwestern State at Davidson
Ohio at Western Illinois
Pepperdine at Toledo
Portland at Detroit
Providence at Duquesne
Rutgers at Youngstown State
Sam Houston State at Fresno State
San Diego at Bucknell
Southern at SE Missouri State
Southern Utah at Delaware
Southern Methodist at Austin Peay
St John's at Fairfield
Stanford at South Carolina State
The Citadel at Southern Illinois
Tulane at North Carolina State
UNC-Ashville at Wichita State
Utah at Southern Miss
Virginia at Boise State
Virginia Tech at Texas Tech
Western Carolina at Louisiana State
Western Michigan at Illinois-Chicago
Winthrop at Xavier
Wisconsin-Green Bay at Northwestern



NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION
ROOKIE *HUSTON LEADS KNICKS TO OVERTIME WIN
Paul *Huston scored 23 points including 7 in overtime to lead the New York Knickerbockers to a 112-110 victory over the Bullets in Baltimore. *Huston, who saw his role increase greatly when center Leonard Loch suffered a first quarter shoulder injury, added 10 rebounds and was dominant late in the game. Reserve forward Caston Cook also had a huge evening for New York, scoring a career high 26 points. Loch is expected to miss at least 3 weeks with a seperated shoulder.

Pittsburgh got 27 points from Taro Devane and 23 from Ryan Fry in a 103-99 victory over the Pistons in Fort Wayne. Kentucky was also a road winner as the Colonels overcame a 10 point deficiet after 3 quarters to beat Buffalo 77-75. Matt Graham had 23 points to pace the Colonels.

Despite a 26 point effort from guard Brandon Griswold the Cincinnati Royals lost at home to Dallas by an 88-71 count. The defending league champion Chaparrals have the best record in the Western Conference.

The only home team to win yesterday was Kansas City which hammered Indianapolis 120-86. Jim Cokley led the Kings with 34 points and 11 rebounds while Gabriel Brown added 26 points. Despite a wrist injury George *Mikan attempted to play for the Olympians. He was limited to just 17 minutes and scored just 6 points.

YESTERDAY'S RESULTS
New York 112 Syracuse 110
Pittsburgh 103 Fort Wayne 99
Dallas 88 Cincinnati 71
Kansas City 120 Indianapolis 86
Kentucky 77 Buffalo 75

TONIGHT'S GAMES
Buffalo at Baltimore
Minneapolis at St Louis
Chicago at Boston
Milwaukee at Syracuse
Philadelphia at New Orleans

Code:

		STANDINGS
ATLANTIC	GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
Providence	16	11	 5	.688	 x
Baltimore	11	 7	 4	.636	1.5
Boston		10	 5	 5	.500	3.0
New York	18	 8	10	.444	4.0
Philadelphia	17	 4	13	.235	7.5
					
NORTHEAST	GP	 W	L	PCT	GB
Cleveland	14	11	3	.786	 x
Buffalo		13	 8	5	.615	2.5
Syracuse	15	 9	6	.600	2.5
Fort Wayne	15	 6	9	.400	5.5
Pittsburgh	13	 5	8	.385	5.5
					
MIDWEST		GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
St Louis	13	7	 6	.538	 x
Indianapolis	17	8	 9	.471	1.0
Milwaukee	15	7	 8	.467	1.0
Chicago		 9	4	 5	.444	1.0
Minneapolis	14	4	10	.286	3.5
					
SOUTH		GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
Dallas		18	11	 7	.611	 x
Kansas City	14	 8	 6	.571	1.0
Cincinnati	14	 7	 7	.500	2.0
Kentucky	20	 9	11	.450	3.0
New Orleans	10	 4	 6	.400	3.0

NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE
LEAFS BLANK HAWKS BUT WIN PROVES COSTLY
Considering the Toronto Maple Leafs had just finished blanking the Chicago Blackhawks 5-0 you would have expected a lot more excitement in an unusually subdued Leaf dressing room following the game. Unfortunately for Toronto fans the victory came at a very heavy price as three Leafs, including star center Max Bentley went down with injuries in the game. All three injured players are doubtful for the Leafs next game Saturday night when they host Detroit but there is hope that Bentley and top defenseman Bill Barilko will be healthy enough to play Sunday in Chicago. Meanwhile, defenseman Garth Boesch could miss a couple of weeks with an ankle injury.

On the ice Harry Watson had a pair of goals and Bentley had a goal and an assist before leaving the game while Toronto goaltender Turk Broda notched his second shutout of the season in the victory. Meanwhile in New York, Pete Babando's third period goal snapped a 1-1 tie and gave the Boston Bruins a 2-1 victory over the Rangers. New York goaltender Jim Henry was forced to leave the game in the second period when he was hit in the face with a puck forcing the Rangers to put minor leaguer Bob DeCourcey in net. DeCourcey allowed 1 goal on 12 shots. Henry could miss a couple of games while he heals but the good news for the Rangers is that Chuck Rayner is healthy and will be ready for action this weekend.

There is one game on the schedule tonight as Chicago visits Montreal.

CHICAGO at TORONTO
Period 1
1- TORONTO Maple Leafs: Max Bentley 5(Bill Ezinicki, Garth Boesch)14:21
2- TORONTO Maple Leafs: Harry Watson 2(Max Bentley) 17:44
Period 2
3- TORONTO Maple Leafs: Harry Watson 3(Bill Ezinicki, Wally Stanowski)3:11
Period 3
4- TORONTO Maple Leafs: Howie Meeker 5(Syl Apps, Vic Lynn) 8:31
5- TORONTO Maple Leafs: Syl Apps 4(Bill Ezinicki, Wally Stanowski)12:12
SHOTS ON GOAL
CHICAGO Blackhawks - 21
TORONTO Maple Leafs - 32

BOSTON at NEW YORK
GOAL SUMMARY
Period 1
1- NEW YORK Rangers: Ed Kullman 4(Edgar Laprade, Bill Judza)12:59
Period 2
2- BOSTON Bruins: Woody Dumart 5(Milt Schmidt, Pat Egan)7:21
Period 3
3- BOSTON Bruins: Pete Babando 4(Clare Martin, Pat Egan)14:19
SHOTS ON GOAL
BOSTON - 17
NEW YORK - 9
Code:

		NHL STANDINGS
TEAM	  GP  W	 L  T	GF GA PTS
Boston	   9  6	 2  1	28 17  13
Toronto	  11  6	 4  1	30 26  13
Detroit	  10  4	 3  3	30 28  11
Chicago	   9  3	 5  1	22 28	7
Montreal   9  3	 5  1	20 26	7
New York  10  3	 6  1	21 26	7

		SCORING LEADERS
NAME		TM	GP  G	A  PTS
Ted Lindsay	DET	10  9	3   12
Max Bentley	TOR	11  5	7   12
Elmer Lach	MON	 9  4	7   11
Sid Abel	DET	10  5	5   10
Gordie Howe	DET	10  2	8   10
Milt Schmidt	BOS	 7  1	9   10
Howie Meeker	TOR	11  5	4    9
Clare Martin	BOS	 9  2	7    9
Bill Ezinicki	TOR	10  2	7    9
Gaye Stewart	CHI	 9  6	2    8
Syl Apps	TOR	11  4	4    8
George Gee	CHI	 9  2	6    8
Don Gallinger	BOS	 9  1	7    8
Maurice Richard	MON	 5  4	3    7
Grant Warwick	NY	10  4	3    7
Jim McFadden	DET	10  4	3    7
Don Morrison	DET	10  3	4    7
Ted Kennedy	TOR	11  3	4    7
Pat Egan	BOS	 9  1	6    7
CANADIAN FOOTBALL
ESKIMOES AND ALOUETTES TAKE PLAYOFF LEAD
The Montreal Alouettes moved a step closer to dethroning Toronto as IPRFU champions after the Als beat the Argos 35-21 in the opener of their two game total point league final. Out west Edmonton won on the road in Winnipeg by a 29-18 score giving the Eskimoes the lead in their 2-game total point Western Conference Final.

Each series will conclude with a game on Saturday. The Western winner automatically advances to the November 29th Grey Cup game in Toronto while the IPRFU winner will meet the ORFU champion for the right to play in the Grey Cup. The Hamilton Wildcats visit Toronto Balmy Beach Saturday for the one game Ontario Rugby Football Union title match.
__________________
Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles
Tiger Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2005, 04:43 PM   #587
goroyals
All Star Reserve
 
goroyals's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 930
Really great job on the HOF bios. Top notch.

I hope the Chiefs turn things around. Its always dissapointing to hit a bump in the road after a fast start.

Last edited by goroyals; 05-04-2005 at 04:44 PM.
goroyals is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2005, 04:51 PM   #588
Tiger Fan
Hall Of Famer
 
Tiger Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 9,873
Quote:
Originally Posted by goroyals
I hope the Chiefs turn things around. Its always dissapointing to hit a bump in the road after a fast start.
Groce is just so damn inconsistant. 5 interceptions in the last two games and QB rating of 47.9 last week against Chargers.

Missing RB Bruce Jones most of the season with a broken foot doesnt help either. Jones had 1655 yards rushing last season and backups Jerry Jackson and Ray Richards have not been able to pick up the slack.

They are home to Green Bay this week so that will be a tough test. Season concludes with 5 road games - Indy, Denver, Chicago, Cincy and Cleveland so they have their work cut out for them. Oakland meanwhile finishes with 4 of final 6 at home.
__________________
Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

Last edited by Tiger Fan; 05-04-2005 at 04:52 PM.
Tiger Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2005, 01:38 AM   #589
Tiger Fan
Hall Of Famer
 
Tiger Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 9,873
TIGERFAN'S SPORTING DAILY : FRIDAY NOVEMBER 14, 1947

BASEBALL HALL OF FAME CANDIDATE
LEFTY WEINERT
A great pitcher on a bad team is how Lefty Weinert will be remembered. The 2 time Cy Young award winner had 8 straight 20 win seasons despite the fact his Philadelphia Phillies never finished higher than 4th during that span and never won more than 76 games in a season. Weinert never played a postseason game, and in fact only finished as high as third place once - and that was with Pittsburgh after he was dealt to the Pirates late in his career. He still managed to make 7 all-star teams and won the National League Cy Young in 1931 and 1933. In 1933 he won 24 games while the Phillies as a team managed just 67 victories.

Weinert started in the Phillies system as a 20 year old but it was 8 years before he was given the chance to join the big league rotation full-time. His 250 career wins are good for 28th best all-time but because he was never on a winning team Weinert is the most underpublicized 250 game winner in league history.

REAL LIFE
In real life Weinert, a Philadelphia native, appeared in his first major league game as a 17 year old with the Phillies in 1919. He would play parts of 9 seasons in the majors with stops with the Cubs and Yankees after Philadelphia and compile a career record of 18-33.

Code:

		LEFTY WEINERT CAREER STATS
Year Age Tm Lg  W L   G  GS   CG SHO SV	  IP	 H   ER	  BB   SO  ERA
1924 22	PHI NL  0-0   1   0    0   0  0	   1	 0    0	   2	0 0.00
1925 23	PHI NL  1-1  11   0    0   0  0	  12	16    9	   4	2 6.57
1926 24	PHI NL  0-0   3   0    0   0  0	   3	 3    1	   1	2 2.70
1927 25	PHI NL  0-0   1   0    0   0  0	   1	 2    1	   0	1 6.77
1928 26	PHI NL  0-2   5	  3    2   0  0	  22	29   12	   9    4 4.99
1929 27	PHI NL	7-5  23	 13    9   0  1	 123   133   45	  41   25 3.30
1930 28	PHI NL 20-15 37	 37   26   0  0	 305   371  145	 107   78 4.27
1931 29	PHI NL 23-15 40	 40   33   4  0	 341   348  110	 105   56 2.90
1932 30	PHI NL 24-10 41	 41   31   2  0	 347   411  138	  99   66 3.58
1933 31	PHI NL 24-10 41	 41   29   4  0	 348   376  140	  95   59 3.62
1934 32	PHI NL 22-14 41	 41   31  10  0	 350   330  100	  83   74 2.57
1935 33	PHI NL 22-15 41	 41   32   1  0	 346   387  152	  69   76 3.96
1936 34	PHI NL 21-13 40	 40   31   2  0	 343   351  123	  61   75 3.23
1937 35	PHI NL 21-16 41	 41   32   3  0	 352   383  134	  71   67 3.42
1938 36	PHI NL 17-16 36	 36   28   2  0	 299   362  122	  68   59 3.67
1939 37	PHI NL 20-16 38	 38   29   2  0	 318   363  135	  79   78 3.82
1940 38	PHI NL	9-10 21	 21   15   1  0	 192   199   71	  28   55 3.33						PIT NL	3-6  12	 12    8   0  0	 100   123   55	  24   39 4.97
	TOT    12-16 33	 33   23   1  0	 292   322  126	  52   94 3.89
1941 39	PIT NL 16-11 30	 29   22   0  0	 250   271   92	  50   73 3.31
1942 40	PIT NL	0-0   6	  1    0   0  0	  13	17   10	   5	5 7.11
TOTALS	     250-175 509 475  358 31  1	4066  4475 1595	1001  894	3.53
NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE
HAWKS EMBARASS HABS 7-2 ON FORUM ICE
Doug Bentley had a goal and 4 assists as the Chicago Blackhawks thumped the Canadiens at the Montreal Forum by a 7-2 score. The Hawks were in control right from the opening face-off, building a 3-0 lead before the game was 5 minutes old. Gaye Stewart scored twice for Chicago with Ralph Nattrass, Bob Goldham, Ernie Dickens and Gus Bodnar adding singles. In addition to the pair of goals Stewart also had two helpers. The line of Bentley, Stewart and Bud Poile combined for 11 points. Toe Blake and Norm Dussault replied for the Canadiens who are 0-5 since Maurice Richard was injured. It is hoped Richard will be back in the lineup a week from tomorrow.

CHICAGO at MONTREAL
GOAL SUMMARY
Period 1
1- CHICAGO Blackhawks: Ralph Nattrass 1(Gaye Stewart, Doug Bentley) 1:29
2- CHICAGO Blackhawks: Gaye Stewart 7(Bud Poile, Doug Bentley) 4:02
3- CHICAGO Blackhawks: Bob Goldham 1(Bill Moisenko, Red Hamill) 4:44
4- MONTREAL Canadiens: Norm Dussault 1(Elmer Lach, Roger Leger) 15:29
Period 2
5- MONTREAL Canadiens: Toe Blake 6(Elmer Lach, Bob Fillion) 7:13
6- CHICAGO Blackhawks: Ernie Dickens 1(Alex Kaleta, Gaye Stewart) 10:59
Period 3
7- CHICAGO Blackhawks: Doug Bentley 2(Bud Poile, Ernie Dickens) 0:41
8- CHICAGO Blackhawks: Gus Bodnar 1(Doug Bentley, George Gee) 8:33
9- CHICAGO Blackhawks: Gaye Stewart 8(Doug Bentley, Ralph Nattrass) 15:14
SHOTS ON GOAL
CHICAGO - 35
MONTREAL - 30
Code:

	NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE STANDINGS
TEAM	  GP W	L  T  GF  GA PTS
Boston	   9 6	2  1  28  17  13
Toronto	  11 6	4  1  30  26  13
Detroit	  10 4	3  3  30  28  11
Chicago	  10 4	5  1  29  30   9
Montreal  10 3	6  1  22  33   7
New York  10 3	6  1  21  26   7

	SCORING LEADERS
NAME		TM  GP	G  A PTS
Elmer Lach	MON 10	4  9  13
Ted Lindsay	DET 10	9  3  12
Gaye Stewart	CHI 10	8  4  12
Max Bentley	TOR 11	5  7  12
Doug Bentley	CHI 10	2  9  11
Sid Abel	DET 10	5  5  10
Gordie Howe	DET 10	2  8  10
Milt Schmidt	BOS  7	1  9  10
Howie Meeker	TOR 11	5  4   9
Clare Martin	BOS  9	2  7   9
Bill Ezinicki	TOR 10	2  7   9
George Gee	CHI 10	2  7   9
Syl Apps	TOR 11	4  4   8
Don Gallinger	BOS  9	1  7   8
NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION
WARRIORS SNAP LOSING SKID
Guard Tony Bryant had 23 points and 8 rebounds as the Philadelphia Warriors ended a 4-game losing streak with an 89-74 victory over the Jazz in New Orleans. At 5-13, Philadelphia still holds the distinction of having the worst record in the NBA and the Warriors have just 2 wins in their last 12 games. 24 year old center John Layton continues to struggle in a Philadelphia uniform. After a dominant performance in last years playoffs when he led Dallas to the league title, the free agent signee is averaging just 13 points and 7 rebounds a game for the Warriors.

The Buffalo Braves won their 11th game of the season by beating the Bullets in Baltimore 100-96. The Braves, Cleveland and Dallas are tied for the league lead with 11 victories.

In other action Joe *Fulks had 29 points to lead Minneapolis past St Louis 92-73, Chicago outscored Boston 100-90 and Syracuse beat Milwaukee 105-98 behind a 17 point, 10 assist effort from Justin Rhoad.

YESTERDAY'S RESULTS
Buffalo 100 Baltimore 96
Minneapolis 92 St Louis 73
Chicago 100 Boston 90
Syracuse 105 Milwaukee 98
Philadelphia 89 New Orleans 74

TONIGHT'S GAMES
Syracuse at New York
Philadelphia at Cleveland
Indianapolis at Cincinnati
Dallas at Boston
Baltimore at Minneapolis
Providence at New Orleans

Code:

		STANDINGS
ATLANTIC	GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
Providence	16	11	 5	.688	 x
Baltimore	12	 7	 5	.583	2.0
Boston		11	 5	 6	.455	3.5
New York	18	 8	10	.444	4.0
Philadelphia	18	 5	13	.278	7.0
					
NORTHEAST	GP	 W	L	PCT	GB
Cleveland	14	11	3	.786	 x
Buffalo		14	 9	5	.643	2.0
Syracuse	16	10	6	.625	2.0
Fort Wayne	15	 6	9	.400	5.5
Pittsburgh	13	 5	8	.385	5.5
					
MIDWEST		GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
Chicago		10	5	 5	.500	 x
St Louis	14	7	 7	.500	 x
Indianapolis	17	8	 9	.471	0.5
Milwaukee	16	7	 9	.438	1.0
Minneapolis	15	5	10	.333	2.5
					
SOUTH		GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
Dallas		18	11	 7	.611	 x
Kansas City	14	 8	 6	.571	1.0
Cincinnati	14	 7	 7	.500	2.0
Kentucky	20	 9	11	.450	3.0
New Orleans	11	 4	 7	.364	3.5

	NBA SCORING LEADERS
1   Mac Thorpe		St Louis	21.6
2   Mo Hybarger		Fort Wayne	21.4
3   Justin Hild		Syracuse	21.1
4   Joe *Fulks		Minneapolis	21.0
5   Miguel Dominguez	Buffalo		20.6
6   Jim Cokley		Kansas City	20.6
7   George *Mikan	Indianapolis	20.1
8   Joe Cunningham	Dallas		19.0
9   Taro Devane		Pittsburgh	18.8
10  Noah Baldin		Fort Wayne	18.7
COLLEGE BASKETBALL
AUBURN IS UPSET BY FLORIDA A&M
Florida A&M used the 3-point shot to surpise 7th ranked Auburn 71-63. The Rattlers were 11-24 from 3 point territory compared to the Tigers 1-for-17. Junior forward Ed *Stanczak and freshman forward Troy Davis led the A&M attack with 5 3-pointers each. The loss evens Auburn's record at 2-2. 12th ranked Memphis was also upset as the Tigers were knocked off 84-82 by San Jose State while #22 Kentucky fell 72-69 to Virginia Commonwealth.

Number two New York University had no trouble with Buffalo, beating the Bulls 99-49. Matthew Blake had 27 points while Dolph *Schayes added 21 points and 18 rebounds as NYU improved to 4-0 on the season. Purdue is also 4-0 after the 3rd ranked Boilermakers made short work of Mississippi Valley State in a 105-46 win. 4th ranked Florida improved to 3-1 with a 102-69 win over Pennsylvania. Sophomore guard Shaun Fluellen led the Gators with a career high 27 points while center Ward Gibson added 20.

6th ranked Oklahoma A&M and 8th ranked Alabama both won last night. The Aggies beat 59-51 while the Tide blasted Morehead State 124-50. Alabama and Oklahoma A&M each face a stiff test when the meet this evening. Both teams enter the contest with identical 2-1 records. Senior PF Hank *DeZonie has been the leader for the Tide as he is averaging 24 points and 14.7 rebounds per game. Power forward Jack *Shelton is leading the Aggies in both points per game (13.0) and rebounds (11.3).


YESTERDAY'S RESULTS
#2 New York Univ 99 Buffalo 49
#3 Purdue 105 Mississippi Valley State 46
#4 Florida 102 Pennsylvania 69
#6 Oklahoma A&M 59 Western Kentucky 51
Florida A&M 71 #7 Auburn 63
#8 Alabama 124 Morehead State 50
#10 California 102 Iowa State 71
San Jose State 84 #12 Memphis 82
#19 Indiana 88 George Mason 76
Virginia Commonwealth 72 #22 Kentucky 69
#23 Wake Forest 84 Oregon State 55
#24 Washington State 90 Siena 63
Evansville 76 Alcorn State 49
Fordham 88 Arizona State 71
Ball State 80 Alabama State 67
Boston University 89 South Carolina 68
Tulsa 89 Brigham Young 75
Brown 119 Wyoming 43
Cal Poly 86 Georgia 74
Central Michigan 112 Massachusetts 71
New Mexico 59 Cleveland State 52
William & Mary 90 Colorado 48
Columbia 71 St Mary's 60
Cornell 96 Valparaiso 80
Texas Christian 105 Eastern Michigan 79
Colgate 71 Furman 62
Yale 79 George Washington 63
Georgetown 88 St Bonaventure 86
Grambling 76 Georgia State 74
Richmond 92 Hampton 42
Illinois State 95 Idaho 69
Dartmouth 91 Idaho State 80
James Madison 73 Kansas State 63
Liberty 101 Lamar 54
Norfolk State 81 LMU 57
Harvard 89 Louisville 82
Marist 72 Houston 69
Navy 85 Marshall 63
Denver 93 Montana 88
Rhode Island 84 Murray State 75
UAB 65 Niagara 59
Jacksonville 89 Northern Illinois 82
Davidson 105 Northwestern State 61
Ohio 87 Western Illinois 69
Pepperdine 91 Toledo 74
Detroit 93 Portland 70
Duquesne 91 Providence 61
Rutgers 91 Youngstown State 64
Fresno State 96 Sam Houston State 57
Bucknell 80 San Diego 60
Southern 81 SE Missouri State 55
Delaware 78 Southern Utah 66
Southern Methodist 72 Austin Peay 63
St John's 115 Fairfield 55
Stanford 92 South Carolina State 71
Southern Illinois 66 The Citadel 56
Tulane 71 North Carolina State 60
Wichita State 65 UNC-Ashville 41
Utah 81 Southern Miss 67
Boise State 76 Virginia 69
Texas Tech 102 Virginia Tech 70
Western Carolina 76 Louisiana State 74
Illinois-Chicago 65 Western Michigan 59
Winthrop 89 Xavier 72
Northwestern 76 Wisconsin-Green Bay 63

TODAY'S GAMES
#8 Alabama at #6 Oklahoma A&M
Mississippi at #15 Illinois
Oral Roberts at #16 UCLA
#17 San Francisco at Duquesne
#21 Syracuse at Nebraska
Brown at Illinois-Chicago
Coastal Carolina at LSU
East Tennessee State at Princeton
Eastern Illinois at Northwestern
Jackson State at Kent State
James Madison at Fresno State
Kansas at Ohio State
Lafayette at Bradley
Lehigh at Santa Clara
Louisville at Texas Tech
Maine at Drake
Ohio at Bucknell
Pennsylvania at Florida State
Rhode Island at Providence
Richmond at Pacific
Tennessee-Martin at Portland
The Citadel at Jacksonville
Towson at Idaho
Vanderbilt at USC
Virginia Commonwealth at Detroit
Wright State at St Bonaventure

COLLEGE FOOTBALL
YELLOW JACKETS AND BEARS LOOK TO STEP CLOSER TO TITLES
Georgia Tech and the University of California can each take a giant step towards clinching conference titles with a victory on Saturday. The 9th ranked Yellow Jackets face a stiff test Saturday when they visit #12 Alabama. Georgia Tech is one of the surprise teams in the league with a 7-0 record including 3 wins in the Southeastern Conference. Alabama is 3-1 in SEC play and still in the thick of the hunt for the conference title.

Out west, California is 8-0 and can pretty much be assured a Rose Bowl bid with a victory over Montana. The Southwest Conference also has a big showdown as first place Rice entertains second place Texas A&M. The Owls are a perfect 3-0 in SWC play and ranked 4th in the nation with a 6-0-1 record. The Aggies are 3-1. There is also a showdown for the Big 6 title as Missouri entertains Oklahoma. The two schools are tied for the lead in the conference with 3-0 records.

There are just 4 games on the slate for this evening including Vanderbilt (4-3) at Miami of Florida (2-4-1).

TONIGHT'S GAMES
Brooklyn at Merchant Marine
Bucknell at New York University
Loyola Marymount at San Francisco
Vanderbilt at Miami (Florida)

SATURDAY'S GAMES
Arizona at Arizona State
Arkansas at Southern Methodist
Army at Pennsylvania
Auburn at Georgia
Baylor at Tulsa
Boston College at Tennessee
Brown at Harvard
Clemson at Duquesne
Colgate at Syracuse
Colorado State at Brigham Young
Cornell at Dartmouth
Denver at Utah State
Drake at New Mexico
Evansville at Kentucky
Florida at Tulane
Georgetown at Villanova
Georgia Tech at Alabama
Holy Cross at Columbia
Illinois at Ohio State
Kansas at Oklahoma State
Kansas State at Iowa State
Lafayette at Fordham
Marquette at Indiana
Merchant Marine at Boston University
Miami (Ohio) at Wichita State
Michigan at Wisconsin
Michigan State at Temple
Minnesota at Iowa
Mississippi State at Louisiana State
Montana at California
Montana State at Nevada
New York University at Rutgers
North Carolina at Maryland
Notre Dame at Northwestern
Oklahoma at Missouri
Oregon at Stanford
Penn State vs Navy at Balimore
Pittsburgh at Purdue
Richmond at Virginia Tech
Santa Clara at St. Mary's
South Carolina at Duke
St. Louis at Detroit Mercy
Tennessee-Chattanooga at Mississippi
Texas A&M at Rice
Texas Christian at Texas
Texas-El Paso at Hardin-Simmons
Utah at Idaho
Virginia at West Virginia
Virginia Military Institute at Citadel
Wake Forest at North Carolina State
Washington at UCLA
Washington State at Oregon State
Wayne State at George Washington
West Texas A&M at Colorado College
Willamette at Portland
William & Mary at Washington & Lee


NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
POINTSPREAD AND PICKS
Have to make up for a terrible week last time when I went 4-10. For the season I am 37-31-2. Here are my week 12 picks.

Code:
					            SPREAD  TSN PICK
Chicago Bears (6-4) at Oakland Raiders (6-4)		-3  RAIDERS
Detroit Lions (3-7) at San Diego Chargers (5-5)		-8  CHARGERS
Green Bay Packers (9-1)	at Kansas City Chiefs (6-4)	 6  CHIEFS cover
St. Louis Rams (6-4) at	Miami Dolphins (3-7)		-5  RAMS
Washington Redskins (5-5) at Tennessee Titans (7-3)	-2  TITANS
Seattle Seahawks (6-4) at Buffalo Bills (2-8)		-1  SEAHAWKS
Carolina Panthers (1-9)	at Cleveland Browns (4-6)	-8  BROWNS
Philadelphia Eagles (9-1) at Jacksonville Jaguars (6-4)	 3  EAGLES
San Francisco 49ers (6-4) at New England Patriots (3-7)	-6  49ERS
Minnesota Vikings (4-6)	at Denver Broncos (3-7)		-2  BRONCOS
New York Giants (3-7) at Houston Texans (6-3-1)		-5  TEXANS
Atlanta Falcons (6-4) at Pittsburgh Steelers (3-7)	-3  FALCONS
New Orleans Saints (7-3) at Baltimore Ravens (9-1)	-1  RAVENS
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (5-5) at Cincinnati Bengals (7-3)	-1  BENGALS
Arizona Cardinals (2-8)	at New York Jets (7-3)		-8  JETS
Dallas Cowboys (2-8) at	Indianapolis Colts (2-7-1)	 1  COLTS

BOXING
SERVO GETS BACK ON TRACK
After suffering two losses and a draw in his last three bouts once promising welterweight Marty Servo appears to be back on track following a strong showing last night. His opponent was mediocre at best but the unanimous decision victory over Tony Marteliano at least gave Servo supporters cause for optimism. It was over a year ago when Servo was knocked out by Sugar Ray Robinson in the 11th round of their world title bout. Servo would not return to the ring for nine months and when he did he looked very slow in losing to Billy Graham. Three months later he seemed sharper but the best he could do was a draw against Johnny Bratton.

With the victory Servo improves to 30-5-2 and there is talk that the 28 year old has his heart set on a rematch with Sugar Ray. Marteliano, a New York native, is 13-20-3 for his career.

Elsewhere in a heavyweight tussle in Boston Roscoe Toles scored a unanimous decision over New Englander Lee Q Murray. Toles, a 33 year old Detroit native, improves to 21-5 with the win while Murray drops his second straight decision. The 27 year old is 11-4 for his career.

Tiger Jack Fox improved to 22-6 with a unanimous decision over Jimmy Slade. The 39 year old Fox is 22-6 in postwar bouts while the 21 year old Slade falls to 25-10-1. In Halifax, Roy Wouters successfully defended his Canadian Middleweight title with a unanimous decision victory over Al Evans in their 15 round bout. Wouters is 3-1 as a pro.

A pair of youngsters made their professional debuts last night. In Cincinnati, Robert xBranham, a 20 year old heavyweight from Kentucky won his first pro bout in convincing fashion, scoring a unanimous decision over Dayton native Johnny Clemons. Clemons drops to 1-2-1 as a pro. Meanwhile Irish lightweight Kevin O'Conor won a split decision in his pro debut against Italian Bruno Bisterzo. Bisterzo falls to 2-13 in his somewhat less than illustrious pro career.
__________________
Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

Last edited by Tiger Fan; 04-18-2007 at 12:40 AM.
Tiger Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2005, 08:39 PM   #590
Tiger Fan
Hall Of Famer
 
Tiger Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 9,873
TIGERFAN'S SPORTING DAILY : SATURDAY NOVEMBER 15, 1947

BOXING
LOUIS HAS QUICK NIGHT AGAINST CANADIAN CHAMP
Joe Louis scored a quick second round knockout of Canadian Heavyweight champion Earl Walls in their bout in the Motor City. Louis, who improves to 11-1 with the victory, was barely touched by the Canadian and sent his opponent to the canvas twice in each round. Walls, with a record that now sits at 20-8, could not beat the count after the final knockdown.

The 33 year old Louis remains the number one challenger in the heavyweight division. He lost his crown to World Champion Ezzard Charles in an August bout. Charles will defend that title against Tommy Gomez next Thursday.

In other boxing news Joey Maxim scored a unanimous decision over Alabama Kid in a lightheavyweight tussle in Canton, Ohio. Maxim improves to 31-10 while Kid falls to 31-12-2. In Chicago rising bantamweight Benny Goldberg is now 5-1 after a 12 round decision over Harold Dade. The 28 year old Goldberg is originally from Poland and recently advanced to the semi-finals of a tournament for the vacant European Bantamweight title. Dade, once considered to be a fighter on the rise in the bantamweight division, has lost 3 fights recently against top level opponents and is now 23-9-2 overall.

In England Cliff Curvis and Ernie Roderick battled to a draw in a fight for Curvis' British Welterweight title. It was the second straight title defense that ended in a draw for Curvis as he had the same result in August against Wally Thom.


COLLEGE BASKETBALL
ALABAMA BEATS OKLAHOMA A&M IN TOP TEN TUSSLE
The Alabama Crimson Tide used a 17-3 run early in the second half as a springboard to a 79-57 road win over Oklahoma A&M. 8th ranked Alabama led 35-31 at the half over the number six rated team in the nation. Sophomore forward Hank *DeZonie led a balanced Tide attack with 15 points and 13 rebounds. Jack *Shelton topped A&M with 13 points. The loss was twice as tough for the Aggies after it was learned that senior point guard Lonnie *Eggleston suffered a stress fracture in his left foot early in the second half. *Eggleston will be sidelined about a month.

There were just four other games involving top 25 teams and three of them had easy wins. 15th ranked Illinois got 27 points from junior guard Johnny *Macknowski in a 111-68 victory over Mississippi. Number 16 UCLA beat Oral Roberts 90-78 as sophomore George *Starich had 23 points and 8 assists for the Bruins. San Francisco hammered Duquesne 114-45 with Will Toney's 25 points and Doug Burton's 24 leading the Dons. 21st ranked Syracuse also won but they needed a strong finish to beat the Cornhuskers in Nebraska by a 63-59 count.


*BARNSTABLE LEADS IMPRESSIVE CROP OF FRESHMEN
With the college basketball season in full swing here is a quick look at 5 freshman you will likely be hearing a lot from over the next 4 years.

1- Dale *Barnstable: Kentucky. The 5'11" point guard from Detroit was just 2-for-15 in his college debut against Virgina but once he gets over the freshman jitters the Wildcats are counting on him to lead the school to great things in the next couple of seasons.

2- Tom Reis : Illinois. A 6'10 power forward from Farmington, Arkansas. Reis struggled in his debut against Oregon but scored 23 points as the Fighting Illini routed Mississippi last night.

3- Chris Carr : South Carolina. The 6'8" forward from Marshall County, Tennessee will play a major role for the Gamecocks this season.

4- Ray Brownlee : Villanova. A 5'9" jitterbug from Proctor, Vermont, Brownlee had 23 points including 6 3-pointers in his debut earlier in the week. He has the makings of a future scoring leader in the Eastern Independant Conference.

5- Neil *Johnston : Baylor. Reminds many of another SWC big man - John Layton. If he can be half the player Layton was in his college days Baylor fans will be thrilled with the 7'1" center from Mineral Wells, Texas. He had 16 rebounds in his college debut.



YESTERDAY'S RESULTS
#8 Alabama 79 #6 Oklahoma A&M 57
#15 Illinois 111 Mississippi 68
#16 UCLA 90 Oral Roberts 78
#17 San Francisco 114 Duquesne 45
#21 Syracuse 63 Nebraska 59
Brown 81 Illinois-Chicago 73
LSU 100 Coastal Carolina 53
Princeton 52 East Tennessee State 43
Northwestern 81 Eastern Illinois 76
Jackson State 104 Kent State 78
James Madison 99 Fresno State 57
Kansas 56 Ohio State 54
Bradley 90 Lafayette 56
Lehigh 75 Santa Clara 70
Texas Tech 96 Louisville 68
Maine 87 Drake 81
Ohio 91 Bucknell 86
Pennsylvania 82 Florida State 73
Providence 75 Rhode Island 66
Richmond 64 Pacific 59
Tennessee-Martin 76 Portland 69
Jacksonville 80 The Citadel 70
Towson 61 Idaho 53
USC 77 Vanderbilt 69
Detroit 96 Virginia Commonwealth 55
Wright State 88 St Bonaventure 69

TODAY'S GAMES
#1 Holy Cross at #10 California
Colgate at #3 Purdue
Texas Christian at #5 Washington
Elon at #7 Auburn
Northwestern State at #9 Penn State
#11 VMI at Siena
#12 Memphis at Western Illinois
#13 Oregon at Appalachian State
Depaul at #18 CCNY
#19 Indiana at Army
Tulane at #24 Washington State
#25 St Louis at Missouri
Alabama State at Yale
Ark-Pine Bluff at SE Missouri State
Arkansas State at Arizona State
Austin Peay at Nevada
Ball State at Cal Poly
Bethune Cookman at Boston University
Birmingham-South. at UT-Chattanooga
Bowling Green at Manhattan
Butler at Iona
Canisuis at Gonzaga
Central Michigan at Mississippi State
Cincinnati at San Diego State
Coppin State at Texas Southern
Davidson at Southern Illinois
Deleware at Buffalo
Drexel at Temple
Eastern Kentucky at Old Dominion
Evansville at Cornell
Fairfield at Wisconsin-Green Bay
Florida A&M at Stanford
Furman at Pittsburgh
George Mason at East Carolina
Georgia State at Colorado State
Grambling at Oklahoma
Hampton at Western Michigan
Illinois State at Arkansas
Lamar at San Jose State
LaSalle at Marshall
Liberty at George Washington
LMU at New Mexico State
Louisiana Tech at Boise State
Miami at San Diego
Miami(OH) at Indiana State
Minnesota at Iowa State
Montana at West Virginia
Montana State at Brigham Young
Morehead State at Houston
Navy at Tulsa
New Orleans at SMU
Nicholls State at UNC-Ashville
Norfolk State at Western Kentucky
North Carolina A&T at Columbia
Pepperdine at Wyoming
Prairie View at Northern Illinois
St John's at Tennessee Tech
St Mary's at New Mexico
Sam Houston State at Charlotte
South Carolina State at Texas A&M
Southern Miss at Murray State
Southern Utah at Iowa
SW Texas State at Arizona
Stephen F Austin at Rice
Tennessee State at Massachusetts
Texas at Northern Arizona
Toledo at Dartmouth
UAB at Eastern Michigan
UTEP at Harvard
Utah State at Western Carolina
Valparaiso at Cleveland State
Villanova at Denver
Virginia at Marquette
Virginia Tech at Creighton
Wisconsin at Rider


NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION
STRONG FINISH GIVES CHAPS WIN IN BOSTON
The Dallas Chaparrals used a 4th quarter comeback to trim the Boston Celtics 76-73 in NBA action. The Chaps entered the final quarter trailing the Celtics by 11 before staging a late rally. Cody Shaw led Dallas with a triple double - 12 points, 10 rebounds and 11 assists. At 12-7, Dallas has the best record in the Western Conference.

Overall league leader Cleveland improved it's winning percentage to .800 with an 81-68 victory over Philadelphia. Bob *Brannum with 17 and Alex McMillan with 16 points paced the Cavs, who held Philadelphia to 27% shooting in the game.

Syracuse remained 2 games behind Cleveland in the Northeast Division with a 104-96 victory in New York. Justin Hild had 30 points while Justin Rhoad added 27 for the Nationals, who have won 7 of their last 9 games. The Knickerbockers have dropped 6 out of 8 after a decent start to the season.

In other action Brandon Griswold had 31 points as Cincinnati thumped Indianapolis 116-82. Olympians star center George *Mikan is still nursing a wrist injury and was limited to 13 minutes. Akins Adkison had 29 points and Joe *Fulks 22 as Minneapolis dumped Baltimore 95-87 while Providence beat New Orleans 103-93 despite a 31 point effort from Jazz guard Daniel Gray.

YESTERDAY'S RESULTS
Syracuse 104 New York 96
Cleveland 81 Philadelphia 68
Cincinnati 116 Indianapolis 82
Dallas 76 Boston 73
Minneapolis 95 Baltimore 87
Providence 103 New Orleans 93

TONIGHT'S GAMES
Cleveland at Providence
Kentucky at Minneapolis
St Louis at Milwaukee
New York at Chicago

Code:

		STANDINGS
ATLANTIC	GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
Providence	17	12	 5	.706	 x
Baltimore	13	 7	 6	.538	3.0
Boston		12	 5	 7	.417	4.5
New York	19	 8	11	.421	5.0
Philadelphia	19	 5	14	.263	8.0
					
NORTHEAST	GP	 W	L	PCT	GB
Cleveland	15	12	3	.800	 x
Syracuse	17	11	6	.647	2.0
Buffalo		14	 9	5	.643	2.5
Fort Wayne	15	 6	9	.400	6.0
Pittsburgh	13	 5	8	.385	6.0
					
MIDWEST		GP	W	 L	PCT	GB
Chicago		10	5	 5	.500	 x
St Louis	14	7	 7	.500	 x
Indianapolis	18	8	10	.444	1.0
Milwaukee	16	7	 9	.438	1.0
Minneapolis	16	6	10	.375	2.0
					
SOUTH		GP	 W	 L	PCT	GB
Dallas		19	12	 7	.632	 x
Kansas City	14	 8	 6	.571	1.5
Cincinnati	15	 8	 7	.533	2.0
Kentucky	20	 9	11	.450	3.5
New Orleans	12	 4	 8	.333	4.5

NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE
FULL SLATE OF GAMES THIS EVENING
All 6 National Hockey League teams are in action on a busy Saturday night including the Chicago Blackhawks playing their third road game in 4 nights. The Hawks travel to New York to face the Rangers while the other two games have Boston visiting Montreal and Detroit traveling to Toronto. The Bruins and Leafs are tied for top spot with 13 points but Boston has two games in hand. The Bruins early success can be attributed to some outstanding goaltending from Frank Brimsek who leads the league with a 1.78 goals against average.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL
VANDERBILT BLANKS MIAMI
Vanderbilt improved it's overall record to 5-3 with a 21-0 win in Florida over the University of Miami. That was one of 4 games on a light Friday college football schedule. San Francisco is now 6-1 with a 13-0 win over Loyola Marymount while New York University and Brooklyn were also winners.

FRIDAY'S RESULTS
Brooklyn 23 Merchant Marine 10
New York University 17 Bucknell 6
San Francisco 13 Loyola Marymount 0
Vanderbilt 21 Miami (Florida) 0


CANADIAN FOOTBALL
WESTERN CHAMP TO BE DECIDED TODAY
The team that will represent the west in the November 29th Grey Cup game will be decided today as Winnipeg and Edmonton meet in Alberta. The Eskimoes won the opener of their 2-game total point series 29-18.

In the East both the Ontario League and the Interprovincial Leagues will crown champions today but the two winners will have to square off next Saturday to determine who they will send to the Grey Cup. In the ORFU Hamilton visits Toronto Balmy Beach in a 1 game showdown while the IPRFU completes it's two game total point series in Toronto. The defending Grey Cup champion Argos have their work cut out for them after losing the opener in Montreal by a 35-21 score.

SOCCER
ENGLISH FIRST DIVISION
TODAY'S GAMES
Bolton at Aston Villa
Arsenal at Blackburn
Sheffield United at Blackpool
Stoke City at Chelsea
Manchester United at Derby County
Burnley at Everton
Middlesbrough at Grimsby Town
Preston NE at Huddersfield
Charlton Athletic at Manchester City
Liverpool at Sunderland
Portsmouth at Wolverhampton


SCOTTISH FIRST DIVISION
TODAY'S GAMES
Queen's Park at Aberdeen
Rangers at Clyde
Falkirk at Hibernian
Hearts at Morton
Dundee at Motherwell
Celtic at Patrick Thistle
Airdrie at Queen of the South
St Mirren at Third Lanark
__________________
Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles
Tiger Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2005, 01:28 AM   #591
rangers85
All Star Reserve
 
rangers85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Fort Worth, TX...home of the mighty TCU Horned Frogs
Posts: 909
Hmmm, could be a big day for TCU if they can beat both #15 Texas in Football and #5 Washington in basketball. On the road for both. Just a suggestion Tiger Fan, but is there anyway you can add the rankings to the football schedule like you do for basketball. So that the Saturday game for TCU would have read Texas Christian at #15 Texas earlier in the week?

Oh, and I'd love to see a Blackburn upset of Arsenal at Ewood Park.
rangers85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2005, 11:23 AM   #592
sflcat
Minors (Double A)
 
sflcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: South Florida
Posts: 119
Quote:
#16 UCLA 90 Oral Roberts 78
Having lived in Tulsa, Oklahoma for several years, I'm pretty sure that Oral Roberts University wasn't established until the early 60s. In fact, I don't even think Roberts started his tent-healing ministry that evolved into the televangelistic empire he is known for today until the 1950s.

Okay, I've picked my nit for the day.
__________________
GM, Miami Sharks, IHOF
Founder & President, SFL
GM, Oklahoma Outlaws, GEFL

Read my "Sports and History Dynasty"

Last edited by sflcat; 05-09-2005 at 11:30 AM.
sflcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2005, 12:21 PM   #593
rangers85
All Star Reserve
 
rangers85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Fort Worth, TX...home of the mighty TCU Horned Frogs
Posts: 909
Quote:
Originally Posted by sflcat
Having lived in Tulsa, Oklahoma for several years, I'm pretty sure that Oral Roberts University wasn't established until the early 60s. In fact, I don't even think Roberts started his tent-healing ministry that evolved into the televangelistic empire he is known for today until the 1950s.

Okay, I've picked my nit for the day.
Uh oh, he be right, ORU was founded in 1963 according to their website.
rangers85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2005, 01:11 PM   #594
Tiger Fan
Hall Of Famer
 
Tiger Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 9,873
Rangers- thanks for the suggestion on including rankings in college football sked. I will begin doing so.

As for Oral Roberts all I can say is oops. I mentioned earlier in this thread that college basketball will be by far the least historically accurate because of the limitations with TDCB in customizing leagues. I searched but could not find anywhere a proper list of all the major college conferences of the era and even if I did I would have to make plenty of changes because TDCB requires 31 conferences of at least 8 teams each and once the conference format is established I cannot make any edits to it. Thus things like the ACC being formed well before its real debut in the early 1950's and Oral Roberts error did occur.

I believe I can edit the team names in the game so if anyone has a suggestion for a school that I could add please let me know.
__________________
Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles
Tiger Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2005, 07:43 PM   #595
Tiger Fan
Hall Of Famer
 
Tiger Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 9,873
A Big change to the format of this dynasty

I have really enjoyed - no, make that I have been obsessed with this replay for close to a year now but due to a couple of reasons I am going to take it in a little different direction.

The reasons for the change are first of all an expected lack of time over the next couple of months. My wife and I are expecting our second child next week and I am sure my free time will be somewhat curtailed for the next few months. That and my recent positive experience with the Eastside Hockey Manager demo got me thinking where this dynasty will go when OOTP7 and some other new games are released.

After struggling greatly with the EHM interface for a week I am now to the point where I am comfortable with it and have become hooked on the level of detail in the game. It is a must try for anyone who even moderately enjoys hockey. I wish it had some kind of historical play capability but since it doesnt I will adapt my allsports dynasty to it and to what I hope OOTP7 becomes.

My goal by the time OOTP7 is released, hopefully in the fall I guess, is to have my allsports replay caught up to 2005 and I can then restart the dynasty with a focus on the four major North American sports and probably boxing with TBCB as well.

With what I have seen from Eastside - specifically the depth of detail and challenge running a junior or minor league squad will give me - my dynasty will likely focus on a small town newspaper with coverage of our junior or minor hockey and baseball teams which I will run while the NHL, MLB, NBA, NFL and college football and basketball take place in the background. I am still undecided who I will run but assuming full lisencing for OOTP7 I am considering having my dynasty based in Erie, Pa. That will allow me to be the general manager of the Tigers Class AA Eastern League affiliate the Erie Seawolves as well as the Ontario Hockey League's Erie Otters.

The dynasty will then have 2 distinct sections to it. The first will be my day to day challenges and successes with the 2 franchises I run. The second will be basic newspaper accounts on what is going on in the rest of the sports world at the time. This allows me to keep with the allsports concept that I have come to enjoy. I will have all the other leagues running alongside with the OOTP7 and EHM engines so there will be regular MLB and NHL reports. I will also continue to include basketball and football, which I expect to be greatly enhanced with the anticipated release of Grey Dog Software's new Bowl Bound College game. If Bowl Bound is compatiable with TPF like it is rumoured to be it will give me a full progression from college/minors to pro in all 4 major sports.

Now as I said it is not being abandoned but rather taken in a new direction and the plan for this direction is to quick sim seasons from 1947 to modern day in each of the sports I anticipate being able to use the same game.

Baseball - Markus has not answered definately one way or another on whether OOTP6 leagues can be converted to OOTP7 but I will sim out the current TSN baseball league to modern day just in case. New features in OOTP7 may make it more beneficial to start fresh with a 2005 league when OOTP7 is released but I will cross that bridge when I get there.

Basketball - I will continue both the NBA and college in their present forms. I believe that will likely limit me to a 20 team NBA come modern day but I am hopeful I can figure out a workaround for expansion. If so I will likely just expand once, maybe in the mid-70's to get to the current level of teams. I will continue to add real NBA players as high school seniors and will post quick year by year recaps so we will hopefully see players like Russell, Chamberlain and later Magic and Bird dominate the game as I continue. Who knows maybe even some of the board-member named players will have big careers. The drawback to this plan is my college game will not be using real conference allignments for the modern era since I cannot edit those once a career has been started. We will also be missing some of the newer entrants to division 1A but I really dont want to scrap the history my league has developed and basketball will be a background sport anyway.

Football - I will sim with TPF likely right through to modern day as well. Depending upon a release time for Bowl Bound I may be able to build some college history as well. Like basketball, I will continue to add the top real life NFL rookies into my league each season as I go along and I will provide a brief end of season update each year. The college game will fall by the wayside until Bowl Bound is released but I will finish up the 1947 season mainly for those Southwest conference fans.

BOXING - Depending on time I would like to simulate at least all the title fights in the main division through from the 40's until today.

Golf, horseracing, auto racing, soccer and the olympic games program I was working on will dissappear at least until modern day due to time constraints.

I hope no one is upset with these changes and you continue to follow the occassional update as I go from year to year over the summer to get ready for my new All-Sports Replay when OOTP7 and Bowl Bound make their debuts.

Sorry for abandoning the format but it is the only way I can see the dynasty continuing with OOTP7. However, I think it is far better to abandon the format rather than the entire dynasty. If Yoda's top 75 taught me anything it is how irratating a writer not bringing his dynasty to a conclusion can be. This way it will progress to 2005 - and beyond.
__________________
Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

Last edited by Tiger Fan; 05-13-2005 at 07:49 PM.
Tiger Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2005, 10:12 PM   #596
goroyals
All Star Reserve
 
goroyals's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 930
Sounds like a great idea TF, you'll still have my readership.

It should be good around here the next few months. We get another HOB, along with a HOF, a HOPB, and a HOCB!

And also, good luck with the new addition to the family!

Last edited by goroyals; 05-13-2005 at 10:15 PM.
goroyals is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2005, 11:10 PM   #597
seth70liz76
All Star Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,634
No complaints here--on a project of this scale it has to fit your needs. Congratulations on the soon to be born child!
seth70liz76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2005, 11:23 PM   #598
Vris
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am
Posts: 3,251
Tiger Fan, just do what you want to do. That's the number 1 rule about dynasty making anyway!

And congrats on the child!
__________________
None

Blog it.
Vris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2005, 11:48 PM   #599
Y0DA55
All Star Starter
 
Y0DA55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: In the middle of the Yankees/Red Sox Rivalry
Posts: 1,771
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vris
Tiger Fan, just do what you want to do. That's the number 1 rule about dynasty making anyway!

And congrats on the child!
ditto

TF, this thing is gigantic, and really, we (and probably more importantly, you) wouldn't want it done halfway. Plus, family always comes first. Change it to suit your needs as we are but sheep to our shepherd.
__________________
Do, or do not, there is no try!
Y0DA55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2005, 01:05 AM   #600
Tiger Fan
Hall Of Famer
 
Tiger Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 9,873
Thanks for the well wishes, guys. Not quite as nervous this time around as we were with the first child, but close.
__________________
Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles
Tiger Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:45 PM.

 

Major League and Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of Major League Baseball. Visit MLB.com and MiLB.com.

Officially Licensed Product – MLB Players, Inc.

Out of the Park Baseball is a registered trademark of Out of the Park Developments GmbH & Co. KG

Google Play is a trademark of Google Inc.

Apple, iPhone, iPod touch and iPad are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

COPYRIGHT © 2023 OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENTS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2024 Out of the Park Developments