Miscellaneous fighters

[bear]

I like the wannabes, John

[John Dewey]

It's fun to do off the wall ratings once in a while to break the monotony. Their usage in the game are dubious, but who cares?

[John Dewey]

Guadalupe De Leon Jr (0 FW 119530 Mission, Tx 2002--) W8(4)/L10(2)/D0
Jesse Vargas (2 JWW 468475 Las Vegas 2008--) W9(4)/0/0
Robert Luna Jr (0 WW 472691 San Antonio, TX 2008--) W5(3)/L1(1)/D0
Jose Alfredo Lugo (0 JLW 321986 Mexico 2004--) W9(5)/L13(40/D1
Ricky Lopez (3 JFW 453137 Oxnard, Ca 2008--) W7(2)/L0/0
Hugo Ramos (0 FW 483248 Palm Springs, Ca 2009--) W2(1)/L5(1)/D2
Hensley Strachan (0 WW 873947 Bahamas 2006--) W5(1)/L6(1)/D1
Billy Lotter (2 HW 34952 South Africa 1956-66) W32(10)/L7(3)/D0
Turhan Altunkaya (2 HW 25769 Turkey 1995-2008) W18(6)/L2(1)/D3
Ahmet Oener (1 CW 9089 Turkey 1997-2002) W16(11)/L5(3)/D2
Robert Zlotkowski (0 CW 9190 Poland 1998-2001) W13(KO5)/L2(1)/D0
Patryk Bursztynowicz (4 CW 24289 Poland 2000-2005) W12(5)/L0/0
Levan Jomardashvili* (3 CW 358095 Georgia 2006--) W19(15)/L0/0
*I already rated this guy as a LHW
George Hillyard (1 JMW 317707 England 2005--) W9(6)/L5(1).D1
Prince Arron (1 JMW 356956 England 2006--) W17(1)/L3(2)/D1
Brett Flournoy (3 JMW 364990 England 2006--) W11(4)/L1(0)/0

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Tijuana Hugo Torres (4 FLY 5659 Mexico 1990-94) W8(4)/L6(3)/D2
Monterrey Hugo Torres (0 FW 124123 Mexico 1989-2001) W8(6)/L15(7)/D0
Wilton Hilario (2 JLW 329436 Dom Rep 2005--) W12(9)/L1(0)/D1
Mike Dallas Jr (3 WW 447375 Bakersfield, Ca 2008--) W12(3)/L0/0
Fabian Luque (0 WW 18780 Mexico 1998--) W21(2)/L10(9)/D4

[John Dewey]

Trenton Titsworth (0 WW 427723 Omaha, Neb 2007-08) W2(2)/L6(0)/D1
Michaelangelo Lynks (0 WW 69439 Chicago, Ill 2000--) W7(2)/L13(7)/D2

[btown32]

Could you please rate:

Jose Gomes, Brazil - boxrec#25211
Luciano Zolyone, Brazil - boxrec#23447
Thiago Vasques, Brazil - boxrec#312002
Zakaria Azzouzi, France - boxrec#455058

CW Salvatore Erittu, Italy - boxrec#393246
CW Silvio Branco, Italy - boxrec#1302

Thank you.

[hamed2]

Hey John, if you get a chance:

Juan Carlos Salgado please. He's 21-1 (15 KO's) & the former WBA Jr. Light champ.

Thanks!

[btown32]

John, just had a quick question for you about your rating for Bob Fitzsimmons. I downloaded the file that you did for the rerating of Bob Fitzsimmons and you had him at an "11." a87star has a similiar rating that you created and the statistics are a little different. He put the file in a thread in my universe and it was downloaded at a "12" but when I hit the save button it reverted to an "11." My question was - did you have him rerated at an 11 or 12 as a HW? Or maybe both, one before another only at HW? Thank you.

[btown32]

Bob Fitzsimmons - Heavyweight
Here we have Fitz as a heavy. This is the incarnation he is best known to boxing fans as.

As before I will only mention a rating if im going to change it.

STYLE - EITHER - As mentioned in his middle rating. Fitz was an early model of the boxer/puncher.

INTELLECT - 9 - He was a very canny fighter and in this stage of his career after already being middleweight champion he was able to outthink most of the bigger guys in this division.

CONTROL VS BOXER - 12 - this needed boosting considerbly as he was always more effective against pure boxers such as Corbett.

CHIN VS KNOCKOUT - 3 - He despite having a good chin was still way over his natural weight and this did have an effect on his punch resistance and the amount of times he was stopped.

RECOVERY - 2 - Again this takes into account his difficulty with the heavier punches.

CUTS - 2 - both the harder punches coming his way and the fact he was now somewhat a veteran. not a bleeder by any means, but his skin had more tendancy to cut and swell at heavy.

AGGRESSIVNESS - 7- He was more static as a heavy and let opponents come to him where he could use his good hand speed and accurate punching to nail them coming into him.

DEFENSE - MINUS 2 - he bacame more canny defensively as a Heavy maybe as he realised he didnt want to get hit by the heavier punches and had to take less chances. Or maybe it was his greater speed or experiance at this higher weight. Whatever the answer Fitz's defenses improved.

HITTING POWER - 10 - this is a big reduction from my rating of 13 at his middle rating but still way up from the official database of 6. He was still a very hard hitter at this weight and took out many heavies in one sided blow outs. Fitzs power even at heavy should never be under estimated.

PUNCHES LANDED - 44 - Way up on the offiical version. Fitzs two great strengths were always his power and just as importantly his amazing straight accuracy.

COUNTERPUNCHING - 42 - see above, slightly reduced from 44 as he was never a true counterer.

PUNCHES MISSED - 60 - again he jsut did not miss or waste many punches very economical.

OVERALL RATING - 11 - You will find he is still great at this level but he will be vulnerable and somewhat unpridictable against a heavy puncher, against light hitting boxers he is still very deadly.

[John Dewey]

Sometimes when a boxer is on the borderline of two ORs the number will occasionally "slip". I wouldn't worry about it though. OR is simply the sum of all the other stats by some formula that I'm in the dark about. It's a general guideline to show the abilities of a fighter and does not directly affect a match.

[btown32]

Originally Posted by John Dewey

Sometimes when a boxer is on the borderline of two ORs the number will occasionally "slip". I wouldn't worry about it though. OR is simply the sum of all the other stats by some formula that I'm in the dark about. It's a general guideline to show the abilities of a fighter and does not directly affect a match.

Thanks for the reply and info. Funny thing is, Bear did post the "12" rating and it had two slight tweaks in the stats, 1 instead of a 2 for fighting on the ropes and a 42 instead of 40 for counter-punching, which did change the OR to a 12 instead of an 11. I thought I had downloaded the Fitz file from your ratings of the day thread, but I guess I missed the OR 12. I downloaded the OR 11. Anyways, thanks for the continued effort in this thread. I appreciate all the time you put into the many requests that I post.

[John Dewey]

Jose Gomes (4 LHW 25211 Brazil 1992-2001) W24(18)/L2(1)/d0
Luciano Zolyone (6 HW 23447 Brazil 1997-2006) W23(22)/L1(1)/D1
Thiago Vasques (5 HW 312002 Brazil 2005-08) W10(9)/L0/0
Zakaria Azzouzi (4 CW 455058 France 2008--) W11(9)/L1(0)/D1
Salvatore Erittu (4 CW 393246 Italy 2007--) W18(6)/L0/0
Silvio Branco* (2 CW 1302 Italy 1988--) W60(37)/L10(4)/D2
*in tha data pool as a LHW
Juan Carlos Salgado (4 JLW 178718 Mexico 2003--) W21(15)/L1(1)/D1

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[btown32]

Ratings request for 1HW and 5CW's.

HW Augustin N'Gou, Cote D'Ivoire - boxrec#24265
CW John Martin Cyril, Nigeria - boxrec#59049
CW Roman Kracik, Czech Rep. - boxrec#137714
CW Jaromir Soukup, Czech Rep. - boxrec#294968
CW Milan Konecny, Czech Rep. - boxrec#7694
CW Ladislav Kutil, Czech Rep. - boxrec#172967

Thank you.

[a87star]

John could you please rate these Canadian SMW's for me?

Ali Nestor Charles
Martin Desjardins
Jason DeLaronde
Jason Diamond
Jacques Lemaire
Jason Naugler
Matt O'Brien
Nicholson Poulard
Louis Sargeant
Larry Sharpe
Adonis Stevenson
Brooke Wellby
Mark Woolnough

Thanks in advance.

[AZZA]

great work john , hope were not putting too much pressure on you.


2 quick questions

1.can we start to help john out alittle and post some pics to go with his rankings and try to tidy up all his recent posts with pics?

2. what fighters current have we not rsted and are a must have to current universe?




keep it up john its great to beable keep adding fighters to universe

thanks