New Non-HW Boxers Rated - Page 30

CONN CHRIS · 11-27-2004, 08:04 AM

Rocky Palma - Philippino Strawweight, one-time WBC title holder. Career record of 18-7-3

CONN CHRIS · 11-27-2004, 08:06 AM

Satoru Abe - Japanese Strawweight and southpaw, lost in his few title shots, record of 23-4-2

CONN CHRIS · 11-27-2004, 08:09 AM

Eric Chavez - Philippino Strawweight one time IBF Champ (wasn't everyone?); career record of 39-16-5

CONN CHRIS · 11-27-2004, 08:11 AM

Carmelo Caceres - Philippino Strawweight and one time Philippines title holder. Career record of 16-9-3

hamed · 11-27-2004, 12:22 PM

Good stuff Conn Chris!

CONN CHRIS · 11-27-2004, 01:22 PM

Thanks, to be honest though, I cannot take the credit. I played the board version of tbcb for 15 to 18 years and picked up fighter ratings all over the place. Once I had converted all the hand made cards to excell spreadsheets and printed them on card stock I lost track of which ones I had rated myself. I did rate alot of lower weight fighters in the mid eighties, but I do not think any of these were from that round of rating.

Still rooting around for all my old cards, I will post anything that I have yet to find in other available databases.

Cheers and a big thanks to all the other posters - I am getting spoiled at the speed by which I can accumulate ratings. Back in the day, all we had were classifieds in the "All-Star Replay".

CONN CHRIS · 11-27-2004, 11:56 PM

Juan Domingo Cordoba - Argentine Junior Flyweight. Held WBO, WBC International, South American and Argentine Jr. Fly belts at various times. 34-6-3 overall record.

CONN CHRIS · 11-27-2004, 11:57 PM

Young-Jin Kim - Korean Junior Flyweight. One time Korean Champ, lost one bid at WBC title, overall record of 20-4-1

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 12:00 AM

Ladislao "Speedy" Vasquez - Mexican that fought between Junior Flyweight, Flyweight and Junior Bantam (rated here as a Jr Fly). Basicaly a trial horse but did hold the WBC Continental Americas Flyweight belt at one time. (I think that they make up some of these titles just to sell tickets - or is that just too cynical?)

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 12:11 AM

This is the file I use, I tweaked the one in the game just a bit to more acurately reflect the power he has shown. It moved him from an eight to a nine which seems more like it to me. Flyweights don't generaly stay at the top as long as he has and his power and aggresiveness are likely the reason in my opinion.

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 01:54 PM

Paul Weir - British Straw/Jr. Fly/Flyweight (rated as a Jr. Fly) Had a promissing quick start but ate a lot of canvas toward the end. Unfortunately, he realy needs to be rated based on what he was at the end with only 20 career fights. Record of 14-6-0 - like many in these lower weights, fought for a lot of minor belts in his short career and won a few of them.

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 02:36 PM

Jesper David Jenson - Flyweight/Jr Bantam from Denmark (rated as a Jr Bantam). Jenson fought exclusively in Denmark but had some fairly good competition come to him. He held the European Flyweight title and defended 3 times. Also, 5 time defender of the IBC Jr Bantam belt and one-time holder of the IBC Flyweight belt. Jesper had good power at this weight class amassing a 38(10)-2-1 career record. I may be giving him too much benefit of the doubt in this rating with respect to his power given that he didn't swim with the really big fish, but the testing results I had give him solid wins with a correct KO% against fair competition and he fades when facing the bigger guns but has a good shot at them.

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 03:01 PM

Juan Antonio Torres - Panamanian Flyweight with a big punch, a glass chin and no defense to speak of. Career record of 21(18)-11-1; was put on his back in each of his last four fights. Under testing, he ends up winning less than 50% of his bouts but has the ability to KO virtualy anyone in the weight class from time-to-time. Definately not an opponent for you schedule on the way up.

LeeSkye · 11-28-2004, 05:36 PM

CONN CHRIS, appreciate your additions-always good to have more input to this great game.

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 08:09 PM

Carlos Salazar - Argentine Flyweight. One time Aregtine, South American and WBO Flyweight Champion. Also held the IBF Junior Bantamweight title. Gave Harold Grey his first defeat (before Grey moved up in weight) Good defensive boxer who comilped a record of 47(19)-8-3

11-27-2004, 08:04 AM	#436
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Rocky Palma Rocky Palma - Philippino Strawweight, one-time WBC title holder. Career record of 18-7-3 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:49 PM.

11-27-2004, 08:06 AM	#437
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Satoru Abe Satoru Abe - Japanese Strawweight and southpaw, lost in his few title shots, record of 23-4-2 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:49 PM.

11-27-2004, 08:09 AM	#438
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Eric Chavez Eric Chavez - Philippino Strawweight one time IBF Champ (wasn't everyone?); career record of 39-16-5 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:49 PM.

11-27-2004, 08:11 AM	#439
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Carmelo Caceres Carmelo Caceres - Philippino Strawweight and one time Philippines title holder. Career record of 16-9-3 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:50 PM.

11-27-2004, 01:22 PM	#441
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Thanks, to be honest though, I cannot take the credit. I played the board version of tbcb for 15 to 18 years and picked up fighter ratings all over the place. Once I had converted all the hand made cards to excell spreadsheets and printed them on card stock I lost track of which ones I had rated myself. I did rate alot of lower weight fighters in the mid eighties, but I do not think any of these were from that round of rating. Still rooting around for all my old cards, I will post anything that I have yet to find in other available databases. Cheers and a big thanks to all the other posters - I am getting spoiled at the speed by which I can accumulate ratings. Back in the day, all we had were classifieds in the "All-Star Replay". __________________ Check Out My Cards!

11-27-2004, 12:22 PM	#440
hamed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,073	Good stuff Conn Chris!

11-27-2004, 11:56 PM	#442
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Juan Domingo Cordoba Juan Domingo Cordoba - Argentine Junior Flyweight. Held WBO, WBC International, South American and Argentine Jr. Fly belts at various times. 34-6-3 overall record. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:50 PM.

11-27-2004, 11:57 PM	#443
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Young-Jin Kim Young-Jin Kim - Korean Junior Flyweight. One time Korean Champ, lost one bid at WBC title, overall record of 20-4-1 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 12:00 AM	#444
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Ladislao Vasquez Ladislao "Speedy" Vasquez - Mexican that fought between Junior Flyweight, Flyweight and Junior Bantam (rated here as a Jr Fly). Basicaly a trial horse but did hold the WBC Continental Americas Flyweight belt at one time. (I think that they make up some of these titles just to sell tickets - or is that just too cynical?) __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 12:11 AM	#445
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Pongsaklek Wongjongkam This is the file I use, I tweaked the one in the game just a bit to more acurately reflect the power he has shown. It moved him from an eight to a nine which seems more like it to me. Flyweights don't generaly stay at the top as long as he has and his power and aggresiveness are likely the reason in my opinion. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 01:54 PM	#446
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Paul Weir Paul Weir - British Straw/Jr. Fly/Flyweight (rated as a Jr. Fly) Had a promissing quick start but ate a lot of canvas toward the end. Unfortunately, he realy needs to be rated based on what he was at the end with only 20 career fights. Record of 14-6-0 - like many in these lower weights, fought for a lot of minor belts in his short career and won a few of them. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 02:36 PM	#447
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Jesper David Jenson Jesper David Jenson - Flyweight/Jr Bantam from Denmark (rated as a Jr Bantam). Jenson fought exclusively in Denmark but had some fairly good competition come to him. He held the European Flyweight title and defended 3 times. Also, 5 time defender of the IBC Jr Bantam belt and one-time holder of the IBC Flyweight belt. Jesper had good power at this weight class amassing a 38(10)-2-1 career record. I may be giving him too much benefit of the doubt in this rating with respect to his power given that he didn't swim with the really big fish, but the testing results I had give him solid wins with a correct KO% against fair competition and he fades when facing the bigger guns but has a good shot at them. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 03:01 PM	#448
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Juan Antonio Torres Juan Antonio Torres - Panamanian Flyweight with a big punch, a glass chin and no defense to speak of. Career record of 21(18)-11-1; was put on his back in each of his last four fights. Under testing, he ends up winning less than 50% of his bouts but has the ability to KO virtualy anyone in the weight class from time-to-time. Definately not an opponent for you schedule on the way up. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 05:36 PM	#449
LeeSkye All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Igloo Posts: 1,279	CONN CHRIS, appreciate your additions-always good to have more input to this great game. __________________ What If Championship Boxing

11-28-2004, 08:09 PM	#450
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,078	Carlos Salazar Carlos Salazar - Argentine Flyweight. One time Aregtine, South American and WBO Flyweight Champion. Also held the IBF Junior Bantamweight title. Gave Harold Grey his first defeat (before Grey moved up in weight) Good defensive boxer who comilped a record of 47(19)-8-3 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 12:50 PM.