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Old 04-04-2005, 07:38 PM   #41
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I'm a little surprised Beaumont isn't in yet myself, Jestor. (I voted for him in 1926 and 1927 myself.)
Ditto. He's right on the cusp, so hopefully he'll make it this time.
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Old 04-05-2005, 04:39 PM   #42
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I've found myself voting for guys that are leaving the ballot. In one last hope of getting them past.
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Old 04-06-2005, 03:06 PM   #43
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Bill Burns
Jack Chesbro
Roy Hitt
Lefty Leifield
Jean Dubuc


Buck Herzog
Jim Nealon
Ginger Beaumont
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Old 04-07-2005, 08:01 PM   #44
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Thanks for the ballot, Delgado. It's been a pretty rough couple of days, so I haven't been on at all.

A few of those guys deserve a chance to stay on the ballot, William. Over time I might institute a Veteran's Committee, but for now I don't have the time to manage that, too.
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Catchers at the bat

An update: As I just posted over in the main Pat O'Farrell thread, since the Red Sox are in the 1927 World Series, I'll be spending more time in that particular year than I expected to.

Therefore, I won't be closing the voting for the 1928 HoF class on Sunday, like I originally planned to do. That will give me a little time to provide some data on how a few players stack up against the other men at their position.

Since William mentioned a catcher, Syd Smith, I thought I'd start with the catchers. Here is a listing of several of the career leaders in various offensive categories among HoF eligible catchers, and recent retirees:

Code:
Catcher             BA
Ted Easterly      .321
Syd Smith         .301
Roger Bresnahan   .301
Bill Killefer     .289
Bruno Block       .285
Wally Schang*     .279
Deacon McGuire#   .277
Bill Carrigan     .276
Benny Meyer       .273


Catcher             HR
Benny Meyer         92
Tex Erwin*          80
Roger Bresnahan     63
Bill Killefer       58
Syd Smith           45
Deacon McGuire#     44
Bruno Block         40
Bill Carrigan       11


Catcher            RBI
Roger Bresnahan    992
Deacon McGuire#    787
Jack O'Connor#     738
Syd Smith          707
Tex Erwin*         698
Benny Meyer        694
Bill Killefer      645
Ted Easterly       643

Catcher	     OBP
Roger Bresnahan   .392
Wally Schang*     .384
Tex Erwin*        .359
Ted Easterly      .357
Syd Smith         .353
Bill Carrigan     .346
Deacon McGuire#   .332
Bill Killefer     .320
Jack O'Connor#    .304

Catcher            SLG
Wally Schang*     .413
Roger Bresnahan   .408
Ted Easterly      .405
Benny Meyer       .399
Tex Erwin*        .379
Bill Killefer     .375
Syd Smith         .371
Deacon McGuire#   .370
Bill Carrigan     .349
Jack O'Connor#    .337

Catcher            OPS
Roger Bresnahan   .801
Wally Schang*     .797
Ted Easterly      .763
Benny Meyer       .762
Tex Erwin*        .737
Syd Smith         .725
Deacon McGuire#   .703
Bill Carrigan     .695
Bill Killefer     .695
Jack O'Connor#    .693

* Schang and Erwin retired in 1926, and will not be 
eligible for election to the Hall until 1909.

#  O'Connor and McGuire spent so much of their 
careers before the simulation began that I did
not include them on the Hall of Fame ballot.
In addition, three active catchers, all veterans who will probably retire and begin to appear on HoF ballots in the next few years, have career records at least as good as the players on this list: Red McKee, Mike Konnick, and Johnny Bassler.

Code:
Catcher   Age     BA    HR    RBI    OBP    SLG    OPS
Bassler    32   .292    52    719   .383   .390   .773
Konnick    38   .308    69    794   .397   .398   .794
McKee      37   .310   138   1157   .414   .444   .858
Among men who have completed most or all of their careers, McKee is, without a doubt, the best offensive player to don the tools of ignorance in the history of Pat O'Farrell's universe. Younger players like Gabby Hartnett and Biz Mackey might one day prove to be McKee's equal, but they have a long way to go.
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Old 04-08-2005, 08:55 PM   #46
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Slugging shortstops

Shortstop is another position where defensive excellence is often prized more highly than a booming bat. Just as I did for the catchers, I'll give you some information about the batting feats of some Hall-eligible and recently retired shortstops. This exercise helped me discover an overlooked star, Terry Turner, whom I should have put on the initial ballot! I believe I'll add Terry to the 1928 ballot; as you can see, he seems to be as well-qualified as the other shortstops on this list--all of whom have received some support in the first two elections.

In case you're wondering, Eddie Collins imported as a shortstop in Pat's universe, and played his entire career there.

Code:
Shortstop          BA
Honus Wagner     .343
Eddie Collins*   .305
Donie Bush       .301
Terry Turner     .298
Simon Nicholls   .296
Tommy McMillan   .294

Shortstop          HR
Simon Nicholls    118
Honus Wagner       85
Terry Turner       51
Donie Bush         45
Eddie Collins*     34
Tommy McMillan     20

Shortstop         RBI
Honus Wagner     1421
Simon Nicholls   1123
Donie Bush        953
Eddie Collins*    837
Tommy McMillan    743
Terry Turner      659

Shortstop          SB
Honus Wagner      658
Tommy McMillan    647
Eddie Collins*    443
Simon Nicholls    329
Donie Bush        258
Terry Turner      167

Shortstop         OBP
Honus Wagner     .401
Donie Bush       .395
Eddie Collins*   .372
Tommy McMillan   .357
Simon Nicholls   .333
Terry Turner     .329

Shortstop         SLG
Honus Wagner     .484
Eddie Collins*   .400
Terry Turner     .397
Donie Bush       .396
Simon Nicholls   .395
Tommy McMillan   .356

Shortstop         OPS
Honus Wagner     .884
Donie Bush       .791
Eddie Collins*   .772
Simon Nicholls   .728
Terry Turner     .725
Tommy McMillan   .713

* Eddie Collins retired in 1926, and will be 
eligible for election to the HoF in 1929.
Here are four more star shortstops, all active players in their thirties:

Code:
Shortstop            Age     BA    HR    RBI    SB    OBP    SLG    OPS
Ray Chapman           36   .289    33    780   420   .345   .397   .742
Charlie Hollocher     31   .310    45    547   143   .363   .411   .774
Rogers Hornsby        31   .329   152   1001     6   .386   .504   .890
Rabbit Maranville     35   .325   131   1050    16   .384   .498   .883
Chapman should get his 2000th career hit and score his 1000th career run sometime in 1928, and as Pat O'Farrell's double play partner, he's won a couple of rings.

Maranville was, ironically, traded to the Pirates in Pat's universe, just as he was in real life...but the deal took place in 1918, rather than in 1921, and Rabbit has spent the rest of his career there. As Carlton pointed out to me once, the "real" Maranville was a much better hitter in Pittsburgh than he ever had in Boston. In Pat's world, he has flat-out mashed. I would imagine a true Rabbit would average more than one stolen base per year, however. Maranville imported slower than molasses running uphill, but faster than Rogers Hornsby.

Both Hollocher and Hornsby should have several more productive years ahead of them.
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Old 04-08-2005, 10:26 PM   #47
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The next list will compare the totals of several retired second basemen.

Code:
Second Baseman      AVG
Nap Lajoie         .335
Vin Campbell       .324
Heinie Zimmerman   .323
Buck Herzog        .314
Bill Cunningham*   .302
Claude Ritchey     .295

Second Baseman       HR
Bill Cunningham*    140
Nap Lajoie           75
Vin Campbell         45
Buck Herzog          34
Claude Ritchey       31
Heinie Zimmerman     13

Second Baseman      RBI
Nap Lajoie         1430
Buck Herzog        1260
Bill Cunningham*   1133
Claude Ritchey     1061
Vin Campbell        968
Heinie Zimmerman    826

Second Baseman       SB
Buck Herzog         834
Bill Cunningham*    446
Nap Lajoie          339
Claude Ritchey      323
Vin Campbell         22
Heinie Zimmerman     13

Second Baseman      OBP
Buck Herzog        .402
Bill Cunningham*   .387
Nap Lajoie         .367
Vin Campbell       .365
Claude Ritchey     .362
Heinie Zimmerman   .357

Second Baseman      SLG
Nap Lajoie         .472
Bill Cunningham*   .438
Vin Campbell       .429
Heinie Zimmerman   .415
Buck Herzog        .407
Claude Ritchey     .370

Second Baseman      OPS
Nap Lajoie         .839
Bill Cunningham*   .825
Buck Herzog        .808
Vin Campbell       .794
Heinie Zimmerman   .771
Claude Ritchey     .731

* Bill Cunningham retired in 1926, and will
appear on the 1929 Hall of Fame ballot.
There's a second baseman who's still active and has put up some pretty good numbers. It's some guy named O'Farrell...
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Second Baseman   Age    BA   HR   RBI    SB   OBP   SLG   OPS 
Pat O'Farrell    40   .330  201  1793  1388  .432  .508  .940
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Pitchers
BILL BURNS: 1908-1920
JACK COOMBS: 1906-1921
JEAN DUBUC: 1908-1922
ROY HITT: 1907-1925
BILL OTEY: 1907-1924


Position players:
FRANK BAKER: 1908-1923
GINGER BEAUMONT: 1899-1916
BUCK HERZOG: 1908-1924
JIM NEALON: 1906-1923
SIMON NICHOLLS: 1903, 1906-1923
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Extended balloting for the 1928 HoF class

Since Pat and the Red Sox are in the 1927 World Series , my involvement with the season has been extended...and that means the voting for the 1928 HoF class will remain open for at least a couple more days. So, if you would still like to participate in the 1928 balloting, there is still more time for you to do so. Eight ballots have been turned in, and there are several players whose Hall of Fame chances can be turned around by a small number of votes either way.

Thanks for your interest and participation!
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Hope you don't mind, Six, but I'm giving this a shameless bump back to the first page in case someone out there has missed it and wants to submit a late ballot.
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I don't mind the shameless bump at all, Bum. I was going to do the very same thing.
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1928 HoF balloting extended

Thanks for the bump, William.

I'll extend the balloting for the 1928 election until Thursday, May 5.

There's still time to get your votes in, and believe me, your votes can make a difference to the Hall of Fame chances of several players.

Please join in the fun and cast your ballot, if you haven't already done so!

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this was quite a bit tougher than i expected it to be. here are my selections:

Pitchers
Roy Hitt
Bill Burns
Jack Coombs
Jack Powell
Irv Young

Position Players
Ginger Beaumont
Buck Herzog
Jim Nealon
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Class of 1928

The Baseball Hall of Fame is proud to (belatedly) announce the election of its third membership class. Ten voters cast ballots in the 1928 election, so successful candidates needed to receive at least eight votes.

Here are the results:

Buck Herzog: 10
Ginger Beaumont: 9
Bill Burns: 9
Jim Nealon: 9
Roy Hitt: 8

Frank Baker: 7
Jean Dubuc: 7
Simon Nicholls: 4
Jack Chesbro: 3
Jack Coombs: 3
Bill Otey: 3
Bill Carrigan: 2
Rube Ellis: 2
Tommy Leach: 2
Fred Luderus: 2
George Mullin: 2
Jack Powell: 2
Syd Smith: 2
Vin Campbell: 1
Ted Easterly: 1
Del Gainer: 1
Lefty Leifield: 1
Tommy McMillan: 1
Claude Ritchey: 1
Frank Schulte: 1
Irv Young: 1
Heinie Zimmerman: 1

Congratulations to the Hall's five new inductees, and thank you to all you voters who helped elect them.

The election for the Class of 1929 will probably begin this weekend, when I will have time to update the ballot.
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1929 Hall of Fame Ballot is Finally Here!

As the heading says, I'm FINALLY posting the 1929 HoF ballot, which contains several players who retired in 1926 and are now eligible for induction for the first time. Included among them, as you will see, is one of the all-time greats of the game.

This is the last "freebie" for the men who appeared on the first HoF ballot. In other words, this is the last chance for players who have not yet received 10% of the vote in a HoF election so far to do so before they will be dropped from the ballot. These players are marked with asterisks on the ballot.

Beginning with the induction class of 1930, any player who fails to reach that standard in the annual balloting will be dropped as well.

The balloting will close on Tuesday, June 21. You may post your ballots here, or in a private message to me. Remember, you may choose up to ten players.

Thanks for participating!

Here are the players on the 1929 ballot:

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ROY CASTLETON: 1907-1924

247-200, 3.48. Castleton toiled for Yankees and Dodgers teams that were usually mediocre, but ran off a string of nine consecutive seasons with at least 18 victories, including five 20-win campaigns. American League MOP, 1917 (23-12, 2.98). Five All-Star selections.

JACK CHESBRO: 1899-1912
240-158, 2.84. Five 20-win seasons, three after simulation began.

JACK COOMBS: 1906-1921
236-163, 3.21. Won 20 or more games five times; Fractured Skull and Ruptured Disc Back cost him that milestone in 2 other seasons. Eight All-Star appearances. MOP, 1911 (26-12, 2.99).

JEAN DUBUC: 1908-1922
255-194, 3.19. Won at least 20 games seven times. One of Cincinnati’s “Big Three” with Roy Hitt and Del Mason; won 2 Series and six pennants. MOP, 1913 (21-10, 2.03)

LEFTY LEIFIELD: 1905-1919
227-172, 2,95. Four-time 20-game winner, with a then-NL record 29 wins in 1911. Four-time All-Star. Won two WS rings with Pirates.

GEORGE MULLIN: 1902-1921
277-237, 3.18. Won at least 20 games five times as ace of outstanding Detroit teams of the teens. One World Series ring.

BILL OTEY: 1907-1924
198-143, 3.55. "Steamboat Bill" holds the National League record for strikeouts in a season (362, 1915). He whiffed at least 300 batters in three consecutive seasons, 1913-1915, and barely missed making it five straight--he rang up 298 Ks in 1912 and 299 in 1916. Ninth all-time in strikeouts, with 2,421. NL MOP, 1918 (25-14, 3.28). Won a WS ring with the '07 Pirates. Six All-Star appearances. Three 20-win seasons, but he also won 19 games four times; his Pirates teams were usually not big winners.

JACK POWELL: 1897-1911
261-230, 3.18. Pitched for subpar Browns teams most of his career. Won 20 or more games six times, three in the simulation.

* TEX PRUIETT: 1907-1919
I accidentally omitted Tex from the first two ballots.
204-139, 3.02. Five times a 20-game winner for the Red Sox dynasty of the 'teens. Clutch performer on six pennant winners and five World Series champion teams. Five All-Star appearances. ERA champion in 1908 (2.02).

IRV YOUNG: 1905-1918
230-201, 3.15. Won 20 or more games five times as ace of lousy Braves teams. MOP, 1909 (25-10, 2.57). Four All-Star appearances.

[b]POSITION PLAYERS:

FRANK BAKER: 1908-1923
.283-63-1011. 2084 hits. Four-time All-Star. Won 11 Slick Fielder awards at 3B, a total unmatched by any other player at any position. Home run champion in 1911 with 14.

* DAVE BRAIN: 1901, 1903-1917
.279-55-989. 2155 hits. Five Slick Fielder awards at 3B. Four-time All-Star.

DONIE BUSH: 1908-1924
.301-45-953. 2161 runs, 1215 runs scored, 1124 walks. Six-time All-Star on strong Tigers teams. Three Slick Fielder awards at short.

VIN CAMPBELL: 1908-1925
.324-45-968. 2106 hits, 943 runs scored. .794 career OPS. Star 2B with Cubs and Phillies, a 4-time All-Star.

BILL CARRIGAN: 1908-1922
.276-11-545. 1070 hits. Three-time All-Star. Leads all catchers with five Slick Fielder awards. Key member of Red Sox teams that won eight pennants and seven World Series.

TY COBB: 1905-1926
.357-44-1501. Highest lifetime average among retired players. 3840 hits, first all time. 2103 runs scored, 1180 stolen bases. Three-time AL MOB (07, 10, 16). Fifteen-time All-Star. Underrated fielder who won five Slick Fielder awards in the outfield.

BILL CUNNINGHAM: 1910-1926
.302-140-1133. 2322 hits, 1288 runs scored, 1077 walks, 446 steals. Lifetime OBP of .387. In top ten all time in HR. Six All-Star selections with the Senators; often considered the second best at his position in the AL. Won a Slick Fielder Award.

LARRY DOYLE: 1907-1926
.300-89-1052. 2429 hits, 1217 runs scored. Five times an All-Star with the White Sox. Won a Series ring with the '08 Giants. Three Slick Fielder awards at 2B.

TED EASTERLY: 1909-1922
.321-9-643. Lifetime average is best among catchers. 1411 hits. Four All-Star selections. Won 3 World Series with Giants of late 10s/early 20s.

RUBE ELLIS: 1909-1924
.314-24-820. 2037 hits, 1054 runs scored, 530 stolen bases. NL MOB, 1917 (.338-5-79; led league in BA, SLG). Four All-Star selections and two Slick Fielder Awards in the outfield. Spent entire career with Cardinals; won two pennants and 1923 WS with them.

DEL GAINER: 1909-1925
.314-46-1016. 1998 hits. Hard-hitting first baseman; made seven All-Star teams as key member of powerful Tigers teams. Placed in the top 10 in RBI for eight consecutive seasons in the 1910s.

* CHARLIE HICKMAN: 1897-1914
.295-81-1081. 2122 hits. Two-time All-Star. One Slick Fielder award at 1B. One WS championship and several pennants with Reds teams of the teens.

CHARLIE “HOME RUN” JOHNSON: 1908-1923
.311-53-915. 2072 hits. A broken knee ended his career prematurely; he had hit over .320 for four consecutive seasons. Six All-Star appearances, and a Slick Fielder award in CF.

JAY KIRKE: 1910-1926
.299-63-862. 1855 hits, 824 runs scored. Overlooked star on outstanding Tigers teams of the 10s and 20s. Played both second base and the outfield effectively; won Slick Fielder award at 2B. Three times an All-Star.

TOMMY LEACH: 1898-1916
.295-63-1160. 2684 hits, 1428 runs scored. Six All-Star appearances. Won WS rings with Pirates in 1905 and 1907.

JACK LELIVELT: 1909-1926
.313-27-874. 2522 hits, 1263 runs scored, 670 SB. Five All-Star selections. Three Slick Fielder awards.

DUFFY LEWIS: 1910-1926
.301-71-862. 2000 hits, 1003 runs scored, 437 steals. Two Slick Fielder awards and an All-Star selection during career spent mostly with the Browns and Cardinals. Starred on three Cardinals World Championship teams.

FRED LUDERUS: 1909-1925
.329-59-926. 2062 hits. Batting average is 11th best all-time. Five All-Star selections. AL MOB, 1919 (.379-3-102, 2nd with .911 OPS)

WALLY MATTICK: 1912-1926
.293-139-917. 1817 hits, 964 runs scored. Hit over 20 homers in 3 consecutive years, 22-23-24. Four All-Star selections and a Slick Fielder award.

TOMMY McMILLAN: 1908-1924
.294-20-743. 2344 hits, 1306 runs scored, 647 steals. Excellent glove man--won 5 NL Slick Fielder awards at short during his career with the Dodgers and Reds. 3 All-Star appearances. Starred on 1915 Reds NL championship team.

* BENNY MEYER: 1913-1925
.273-92-694. 1470 hits. 417 stolen bases--more than twice as many as any other catcher. Two-time All-Star. 1916 home run champion with 10.

CLYDE MILAN: 1907-1923
.282-62-942. 2161 hits, 1197 runs scored, 540 steals. Three All-Star appearances. Two Slick Fielder awards in CF.

MIKE MITCHELL: 1907-1919
.308-27-821. 2029 hits, 982 runs scored, 458 steals. Key member of six NL pennant winning Reds teams; won two WS rings. Four All-Star selections. Two Slick Fielder awards in RF.

* RED MURRAY: 1906-1923
.294-75-1007. 2299 hits, 1119 runs scored. Three All-Star appearances.

SIMON NICHOLLS: 1903, 1906-1923
.296-118-1127. 2674 hits. 1270 runs scored. Finished in top ten in homers seven times. Four-time All-Star. One Slick Fielder award at SS.

CLAUDE RITCHEY: 1897-1913
.295-31-1061. 2436 hits, 1127 runs scored. Three-time All-Star, with one Slick Fielder award at 2B.

FRANK SCHULTE: 1904-1918
.292-94-1010. 2036 hits. Five-time All-Star. Five Slick Fielder awards.

SYD SMITH: 1908-1923
.301-45-707. 1541 hits. Four-time All-Star catcher.

HEINIE ZIMMERMANN: 1907-1925
.323-13-826. 1913 hits. Became a regular player late in his career, but then ran off a string of five seasons in which he never hit less than .310. Hit better than .330 ten times. Two-time All-Star.
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I won’t have lots of time vote most years as I’m busy taking correspondence courses toward a Masters in Ministry, chaning careers at 35, but here’s mine for this year:

JEAN DUBUC: 1908-1922
JACK POWELL: 1897-1911

(He’s the Ted Lyons/Red Faber of this TL; I remember some of those standings, subpar doesn‘t begin to describe those Browns)

[b]FRANK BAKER: 1908-1923

(Have a feeling Bill James would write a lot about his great Range Factor and other stuff in this TL; instead of Home Run his nickname would be Great Play J )

DONIE BUSH: 1908-1924

VIN CAMPBELL: 1908-1925

TY COBB: 1905-1926

TED EASTERLY: 1909-1922

HEINIE ZIMMERMANN: 1907-1925

CHARLIE “HOME RUN” JOHNSON: 1908-1923

This last confuses me - is it the same one who was a Negro League great? Because the Negro League one started his career in 1899, according to the Hall of Merit website. Then again, it might not be; there’s a Rube Foster from the Negro Leagues and one who played for the Red Sox in the teens, too.

BTW, let’s just figure that the early integration means a Negro League committee is formed early that will also honor other deserving veterans from betwe the dawn of the 20th century.

And, I voted for Johnson/sent my vote in anyway via PM, regardless of who it is

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JACK CHESBRO: 1899-1912
240-158, 2.84. Five 20-win seasons, three after simulation began.

JACK COOMBS: 1906-1921
236-163, 3.21. Won 20 or more games five times; Fractured Skull and Ruptured Disc Back cost him that milestone in 2 other seasons. Eight All-Star appearances. MOP, 1911 (26-12, 2.99).


GEORGE MULLIN: 1902-1921
277-237, 3.18. Won at least 20 games five times as ace of outstanding Detroit teams of the teens. One World Series ring.

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[b]FRANK BAKER: 1908-1923
.283-63-1011. 2084 hits. Four-time All-Star. Won 11 Slick Fielder awards at 3B, a total unmatched by any other player at any position. Home run champion in 1911 with 14.


BILL CUNNINGHAM: 1910-1926
.302-140-1133. 2322 hits, 1288 runs scored, 1077 walks, 446 steals. Lifetime OBP of .387. In top ten all time in HR. Six All-Star selections with the Senators; often considered the second best at his position in the AL. Won a Slick Fielder Award.

LARRY DOYLE: 1907-1926
.300-89-1052. 2429 hits, 1217 runs scored. Five times an All-Star with the White Sox. Won a Series ring with the '08 Giants. Three Slick Fielder awards at 2B.


RUBE ELLIS: 1909-1924
.314-24-820. 2037 hits, 1054 runs scored, 530 stolen bases. NL MOB, 1917 (.338-5-79; led league in BA, SLG). Four All-Star selections and two Slick Fielder Awards in the outfield. Spent entire career with Cardinals; won two pennants and 1923 WS with them.


TOMMY LEACH: 1898-1916
.295-63-1160. 2684 hits, 1428 runs scored. Six All-Star appearances. Won WS rings with Pirates in 1905 and 1907.

JACK LELIVELT: 1909-1926
.313-27-874. 2522 hits, 1263 runs scored, 670 SB. Five All-Star selections. Three Slick Fielder awards.


SIMON NICHOLLS: 1903, 1906-1923
.296-118-1127. 2674 hits. 1270 runs scored. Finished in top ten in homers seven times. Four-time All-Star. One Slick Fielder award at SS.
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CHARLIE “HOME RUN” JOHNSON: 1908-1923

This last confuses me - is it the same one who was a Negro League great? Because the Negro League one started his career in 1899, according to the Hall of Merit website. Then again, it might not be; there’s a Rube Foster from the Negro Leagues and one who played for the Red Sox in the teens, too.

BTW, let’s just figure that the early integration means a Negro League committee is formed early that will also honor other deserving veterans from betwe the dawn of the 20th century.

And, I voted for Johnson/sent my vote in anyway via PM, regardless of who it is.
This Charlie Johnson is one of the biggest "surprise stars" of Pat's universe. In fact, I barely paid any attention to him during the simulation until I noticed him on a leader board and clicked on his name.

Good luck with your career change, too!
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The balloting for the Hall of Fame class of 1929 has been completed, and the Hall is pleased to announce the induction of four new members!

Eight voters took part in the election, so six votes were required for induction.

Here are the complete vote totals:

Frank Baker: 8
Ty Cobb: 7
Jean Dubuc: 6
Jack Lelivelt: 6

Bill Cunningham: 5
Simon Nicholls: 4
Rube Ellis: 3
George Mullin: 3
Vin Campbell: 2
Jack Coombs: 2
Ted Easterly: 2
Tommy Leach: 2
Fred Luderus: 2
Bill Otey: 2
Donie Bush: 1
Roy Castleton: 1
Jack Chesbro: 1
Bill Carrigan: 1
Larry Doyle: 1
Del Gainer: 1
Charlie Johnson: 1
Duffy Lewis: 1
Tommy McMillan: 1
Jack Powell: 1
Tex Pruiett: 1
Heinie Zimmerman: 1

Thank you to all the voters who participated, and congratulations to the newest members of the Hall of Fame!
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