Just read the OOTP article in the latest issue... - Page 3

Maximus · 11-22-2004, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

yep, we know all about Jim. Marc Vaughan is our scout, Miles (our CEO) is the agent

Wait a minute........

....is this a hint? Are you scouting Jim for the pro football sim.....?

Marc Duffy · 11-22-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Wait a minute........

....is this a hint? Are you scouting Jim for the pro football sim.....?

No, just saying that we have taken a look at a lot of games from different sports and we obviously know FOF.

Maximus · 11-22-2004, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

No, just saying that we have taken a look at a lot of games from different sports and we obviously know FOF.

Gotchya.

Bonedwarf · 11-22-2004, 01:56 PM

Let me start by saying I've been playing the CM series since the very first one on the Amiga.

The one thing that concerns me is that OOTP will wind up being another CM lookalike. EHM, I felt, was awful. Perhaps if I'd never seen a CM game I wouldn't, but trying to shoehorn a hockey game into an established football management interface really didn't work for me and I hated it. (Having been a fan of the original.)

My biggest complaint with SI is their forums. The very fact you have to sign up to just READ the things is the most backward ass decision I've ever seen. There is absolutely no reason or justification in the world for this to be the case. It's almost like the forums are supposed to be some sort of Masonic society. I can understand some people being concerned.

I'll reserve judgement until I see screenshots of OOTP. OOTP has a lot more work behind than EHM ever did. Hopefully that'll mean more in the interface department. However, given the way OOTP6 has been treated, various promises that have been made and as yet unfulfilled, combined with what happened with EHM when SI bought it, OOTP6 may well be the last OOTP I buy.

disposableheros · 11-22-2004, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonedwarf

My biggest complaint with SI is their forums. The very fact you have to sign up to just READ the things is the most backward ass decision I've ever seen. There is absolutely no reason or justification in the world for this to be the case. It's almost like the forums are supposed to be some sort of Masonic society. I can understand some people being concerned.

thats not right, i didnt have to register just to read

ctorg · 11-22-2004, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonedwarf

Let me start by saying I've been playing the CM series since the very first one on the Amiga.

The one thing that concerns me is that OOTP will wind up being another CM lookalike. EHM, I felt, was awful. Perhaps if I'd never seen a CM game I wouldn't, but trying to shoehorn a hockey game into an established football management interface really didn't work for me and I hated it. (Having been a fan of the original.)

My biggest complaint with SI is their forums. The very fact you have to sign up to just READ the things is the most backward ass decision I've ever seen. There is absolutely no reason or justification in the world for this to be the case. It's almost like the forums are supposed to be some sort of Masonic society. I can understand some people being concerned.

I'll reserve judgement until I see screenshots of OOTP. OOTP has a lot more work behind than EHM ever did. Hopefully that'll mean more in the interface department. However, given the way OOTP6 has been treated, various promises that have been made and as yet unfulfilled, combined with what happened with EHM when SI bought it, OOTP6 may well be the last OOTP I buy.

These forums will be the thing I miss most in the pre-merger OOTP, by far. All the hours and hours worth of stuff I've typed and read here - the idea of it being gone is sad to me.

D Love · 11-22-2004, 02:29 PM

Someone should consider keeping a list of all the "I'll probably never buy OOTP again" people. My guess is that when OOTP7 does come out and is a smashing success, they will be the first to comment on how they thought it was a brilliant move to join SI.

On one hand, people flame Markus for not putting in these trivial features into OOTP6. On the other hands, they flame Markus for joining SI since it will spell an end to the endless customization options. Of course, the endless customization is already present in OOTP6 but that didn't stop everyone from spitting on it.

jbmagic · 11-22-2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

These forums will be the thing I miss most in the pre-merger OOTP, by far. All the hours and hours worth of stuff I've typed and read here - the idea of it being gone is sad to me.

from the sound of it..it seems like this ootp forum will be here still when ootp 7 is final

Dargone · 11-22-2004, 06:09 PM

It's a tough situation, that's for sure. Thanks Marc for taking the time to answer a lot of questions for everyone...

Rene · 11-22-2004, 10:59 PM

I find this thread rather interesting considering the recent history before and after the seperation between OOTP and .400 Studios. It is fascinating to see how the general attitude and content of the post seem to have evolved toward a more gentle note. Perhaps this has to do with a general change in who and what is posted on this site. Nothing of any great consequence here, just reminds me how the wheel turns in this life.

Maximus · 11-22-2004, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rene

I find this thread rather interesting considering the recent history before and after the seperation between OOTP and .400 Studios. It is fascinating to see how the general attitude and content of the post seem to have evolved toward a more gentle note. Perhaps this has to do with a general change in who and what is posted on this site. Nothing of any great consequence here, just reminds me how the wheel turns in this life.

what is a "wheel"?

Rene · 11-22-2004, 11:13 PM

Well Maximus (got it right this time

) I am referring to the wheel of life that just keeps turning. In a sense its kind of a Karma thing. What goes around comes around.

Maximus · 11-22-2004, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rene

Well Maximus (got it right this time

) I am referring to the wheel of life that just keeps turning. In a sense its kind of a Karma thing. What goes around comes around.

LOL, yeah. I know Rene. Just messin' with ya.

Rene · 11-22-2004, 11:38 PM

Marc Duffy · 11-23-2004, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonedwarf

Let me start by saying I've been playing the CM series since the very first one on the Amiga.

The one thing that concerns me is that OOTP will wind up being another CM lookalike. EHM, I felt, was awful. Perhaps if I'd never seen a CM game I wouldn't, but trying to shoehorn a hockey game into an established football management interface really didn't work for me and I hated it. (Having been a fan of the original.)

My biggest complaint with SI is their forums. The very fact you have to sign up to just READ the things is the most backward ass decision I've ever seen. There is absolutely no reason or justification in the world for this to be the case. It's almost like the forums are supposed to be some sort of Masonic society. I can understand some people being concerned.

I'll reserve judgement until I see screenshots of OOTP. OOTP has a lot more work behind than EHM ever did. Hopefully that'll mean more in the interface department. However, given the way OOTP6 has been treated, various promises that have been made and as yet unfulfilled, combined with what happened with EHM when SI bought it, OOTP6 may well be the last OOTP I buy.

EHM 2005 is getting a revamped interface inline with Football Manager 2005. OOTP already has that interface. I can semi understand where you are coming from on the interface in the first EHM title, it was based on our previous work.

What exactly is your problem with EHM? I'm always curious to read comments such as "combined with what happened with EHM when SI bought it".

All I've said along the way in this thread is give SI a chance with this one, I think you'll all be suitably impressed with what we have to offer.

PS : The OOTP forums at SI do not require registration to read.

Maximus · 11-23-2004, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

All I've said along the way in this thread is give SI a chance with this one, I think you'll all be suitably impressed with what we have to offer.

Personally, I cant wait to see the 2d on field action.

Marc, as long as the customability and depth of OOTP isnt damged I think that this sim (OOTP7) will be a huge winner.

Markus Heinsohn · 11-23-2004, 12:50 PM

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=85954

Ben Music · 11-23-2004, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=85954

Looks sweet, Markus! Good Job!

11-22-2004, 06:09 PM	#49
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	It's a tough situation, that's for sure. Thanks Marc for taking the time to answer a lot of questions for everyone... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

11-22-2004, 10:59 PM	#50
Rene Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 52	I find this thread rather interesting considering the recent history before and after the seperation between OOTP and .400 Studios. It is fascinating to see how the general attitude and content of the post seem to have evolved toward a more gentle note. Perhaps this has to do with a general change in who and what is posted on this site. Nothing of any great consequence here, just reminds me how the wheel turns in this life. __________________ There is no shame in losing, but there is glory in winning.

11-22-2004, 11:13 PM	#52
Rene Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 52	Well Maximus (got it right this time ) I am referring to the wheel of life that just keeps turning. In a sense its kind of a Karma thing. What goes around comes around. __________________ There is no shame in losing, but there is glory in winning.

11-22-2004, 11:38 PM	#54
Rene Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 52	__________________ There is no shame in losing, but there is glory in winning.

11-22-2004, 01:56 PM	#44
Bonedwarf All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,339	Let me start by saying I've been playing the CM series since the very first one on the Amiga. The one thing that concerns me is that OOTP will wind up being another CM lookalike. EHM, I felt, was awful. Perhaps if I'd never seen a CM game I wouldn't, but trying to shoehorn a hockey game into an established football management interface really didn't work for me and I hated it. (Having been a fan of the original.) My biggest complaint with SI is their forums. The very fact you have to sign up to just READ the things is the most backward ass decision I've ever seen. There is absolutely no reason or justification in the world for this to be the case. It's almost like the forums are supposed to be some sort of Masonic society. I can understand some people being concerned. I'll reserve judgement until I see screenshots of OOTP. OOTP has a lot more work behind than EHM ever did. Hopefully that'll mean more in the interface department. However, given the way OOTP6 has been treated, various promises that have been made and as yet unfulfilled, combined with what happened with EHM when SI bought it, OOTP6 may well be the last OOTP I buy.

11-22-2004, 02:29 PM	#47
D Love All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 904	Someone should consider keeping a list of all the "I'll probably never buy OOTP again" people. My guess is that when OOTP7 does come out and is a smashing success, they will be the first to comment on how they thought it was a brilliant move to join SI. On one hand, people flame Markus for not putting in these trivial features into OOTP6. On the other hands, they flame Markus for joining SI since it will spell an end to the endless customization options. Of course, the endless customization is already present in OOTP6 but that didn't stop everyone from spitting on it.

11-23-2004, 12:50 PM	#57
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=85954