spring training be in ootp 6? - Page 3

Ktulu · 04-08-2004, 04:01 PM

I cant say I would play out too many spring training games but I would love to use it for player evaluation purposes.

Here is one idea that is sort of a comprimise between those that want to have spring games to evaluate players and those that want to keep it relatively simple, like it is now...

Instead of the current system of allocating points for every player, how about creating some kind of system where playing time replaces points. For each position you allocate a certain percentage of playing time for each player. Once that is done, you 'run spring training' and statistics are generated. In addition to the allocation of playing time you also have an option to 'work on' one aspect of each player's skills, for instance a new position or baserunning etc.

In real life players dont 'progress' during spring training, its more that spring training is used to evaluate how a player has improved over the offseason.... So using this system, playing time allows your scouts to better asses a player's offseason progression. Basically if you dont give a guy any playing time in the spring you dont have the opportunity to see if he has improved. You might know general things like he is faster or stronger, but you arent sure how that translates into 'baseball' skills. You need to see him play.

Dark Horse · 04-08-2004, 05:19 PM

i think people blow out of proportion the development happening in spring training under the current system. i've never seen much significant improvement from ST. And IRL teams do use spring training to get players to concentrate in a specific area.

That being said, i would like the spring training allocation stay the same. Just add some exhibition games (maybe a month's worth) to the beginning of the schedule. For online leagues. We could sim them like regular season games. In solo leagues we could do as you like. If not interested, set your lineups and sim the whole thing out.

The games shouldn't help a player's progression, it just gives owners an idea how some of his/her players are playing.

Bald Eagles · 04-08-2004, 06:39 PM

I would like to see ST games in OOTP. I think two camps would be needed, major and minor. Signings, releases, trades/waivers and demotions (major to minor) would be needed during ST. After ST, I'd like to see a comparison of his stats and have a quick look at how he changed (+/-, variables depending on what view they have, talent/ratings, etc). This would help set the rosters (25 and 40) and prepare for opening day.

I concur with the batting vs fielding points and think it should be a bit easier to train someone at another position.

04-08-2004, 05:19 PM	#42
Dark Horse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas! Posts: 2,633	i think people blow out of proportion the development happening in spring training under the current system. i've never seen much significant improvement from ST. And IRL teams do use spring training to get players to concentrate in a specific area. That being said, i would like the spring training allocation stay the same. Just add some exhibition games (maybe a month's worth) to the beginning of the schedule. For online leagues. We could sim them like regular season games. In solo leagues we could do as you like. If not interested, set your lineups and sim the whole thing out. The games shouldn't help a player's progression, it just gives owners an idea how some of his/her players are playing. __________________ A Justafan Fan LBA Geo Bahn Rock Hounds fan of the ISLANDIAN PRO ALLIANCE

04-08-2004, 04:01 PM	#41
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,710	I cant say I would play out too many spring training games but I would love to use it for player evaluation purposes. Here is one idea that is sort of a comprimise between those that want to have spring games to evaluate players and those that want to keep it relatively simple, like it is now... Instead of the current system of allocating points for every player, how about creating some kind of system where playing time replaces points. For each position you allocate a certain percentage of playing time for each player. Once that is done, you 'run spring training' and statistics are generated. In addition to the allocation of playing time you also have an option to 'work on' one aspect of each player's skills, for instance a new position or baserunning etc. In real life players dont 'progress' during spring training, its more that spring training is used to evaluate how a player has improved over the offseason.... So using this system, playing time allows your scouts to better asses a player's offseason progression. Basically if you dont give a guy any playing time in the spring you dont have the opportunity to see if he has improved. You might know general things like he is faster or stronger, but you arent sure how that translates into 'baseball' skills. You need to see him play.

04-08-2004, 06:39 PM	#43
Bald Eagles Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Waveland & Sheffield Posts: 402	I would like to see ST games in OOTP. I think two camps would be needed, major and minor. Signings, releases, trades/waivers and demotions (major to minor) would be needed during ST. After ST, I'd like to see a comparison of his stats and have a quick look at how he changed (+/-, variables depending on what view they have, talent/ratings, etc). This would help set the rosters (25 and 40) and prepare for opening day. I concur with the batting vs fielding points and think it should be a bit easier to train someone at another position.