Johan Santana WILL WIN CY YOUNG! - Page 3

crackpott · 09-16-2004, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagrims

I'd love to hear an update from crackpott and andjbock to their original responses.

dannyc, nice prediction.

I was wrong?

I reread my article though. It was good. Why'd I stop writing them?

jaxmagicman · 09-16-2004, 07:40 PM

I don't know what is worse, that Santanna won't win the cy young in the AL or
that 2.74(1)/268(1)/23(1)/0.87(1)/10.78(2)/6.54(2)/223.2(1)- ERA(rank)/K(rank)/QS(rank)/WHIP(rank)/K/9(rank)/K/BB(rank)/IP(rank) won't win the NL Cy Young.

Dagrims · 09-16-2004, 07:51 PM

If he doesn't win the Cy Young award I'll stop posting here for a month.

sixto · 09-16-2004, 08:10 PM

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Skipaway · 09-16-2004, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I don't know what is worse, that Santanna won't win the cy young in the AL or
that 2.74(1)/268(1)/23(1)/0.87(1)/10.78(2)/6.54(2)/223.2(1)- ERA(rank)/K(rank)/QS(rank)/WHIP(rank)/K/9(rank)/K/BB(rank)/IP(rank) won't win the NL Cy Young.

Santana. Right now (Santana - Schilling) > ( Johnson - Pavano).

SoxWin · 09-16-2004, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Aadik

He wont win it- not with idiots like Kruk around. He should, but he wont- instead, it will go to Schilling for "knowing" how to win.

Of the two guys in Boston, I'd take Pedro over Schill, but that's me.

Er, just looked at ESPN and maybe not, but they're about as even as it gets. I'd flip a coin. Though if Pedro can continue on his August/September pace, it's him in a landslide over Schill.

Edit. Pedro's been absolutely incredible (yet again) vs everyone except for the Orioles. As much as I hate to cherry pick stats, take out his 3 starts against Baltimore and you get.

IP 181.2
H 142
R 60
ER 56
HR 18
BB 48
K 198
ERA 2.78

His line against Baltimore in 3 starts?

IP 18
H 24
R 20 !!!!
ER 20 !!!
HR 4
BB 7
K 15
ERA 9.99

Santana's been absolutely filthy all year. He should win it, and will imo. The only way I see Pedro/Schilling winning it is if the Sox manage to overtake the Yankees with all the baseball media watching it go down.

Skipaway · 09-16-2004, 08:47 PM

Wow! Pedro minus games against Orioles still got higher ERA than Santana.

SoxWin · 09-16-2004, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Wow! Pedro minus games against Orioles still got higher ERA than Santana.

As I said Skippy. Santana deserves it and I hope he wins it. It's just funny that one team has pounded on Pedro to that degree hiding what is otherwise a damn fine season.

Skipaway · 09-16-2004, 09:16 PM

Lucky Pedro won't have to pitch in the upcoming four game series against the Orioles!!!!11111

Kezzek · 09-16-2004, 09:32 PM

If Johan wins it, then dannyc gets to claim LL's "OOTP Forum Prognosticator Extraordinaire" title.

We'll have to replace "Legend Lock" with...uh... "dannyc lock"?

Skipaway · 09-16-2004, 10:03 PM

Since Santana has not signed a long term contract yet. Now the Twins got another chance to overpay a player right after their best year!!!!1111

dannyc · 09-17-2004, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crackpott

...I have to go to work. Can someone take this for me so I can get a good laugh when I come back?

Santana's good and all... but this is just ridiculous.

THE HATERS HAVE BEEN OWNED

tim_uwrf · 09-19-2004, 10:09 PM

14 Ks tonight. w00t

Crapshoot · 09-19-2004, 10:33 PM

Santana should run away with the Cy Young- unfortunately, he's going to get robbed.

jaxmagicman · 09-19-2004, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Santana. Right now (Santana - Schilling) > ( Johnson - Pavano).

No question there, but Johnson is having a wonderful year, and probably won't even get one vote for cy young, because of his W/L record.

ihatenames · 09-19-2004, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

No question there, but Johnson is having a wonderful year, and probably won't even get one vote for cy young, because of his W/L record.

I would hope he would get some votes. Going 14-13(so far) with a 2.73 ERA for a team that has gone 47-103 (again so far) is pretty damn good.

twins15 · 09-19-2004, 10:59 PM

Santana should have solidified the Cy Young today. Really, the only other viable candidate is Schilling, but Johan has been much better.

jaxmagicman · 09-19-2004, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ihatenames

I would hope he would get some votes. Going 14-13(so far) with a 2.73 ERA for a team that has gone 47-103 (again so far) is pretty damn good.

Plus these are his other stats: 2.74(1)/268(1)/23(1)/0.87(1)/10.78(2)/6.54(2)/223.2(1)- ERA(rank)/K(rank)/QS(rank)/WHIP(rank)/K/9(rank)/K/BB(rank)/IP(rank)

tim_uwrf · 09-19-2004, 11:18 PM

Santana should have two more starts in September where he will win his third straight Pitcher of the Month. So far in September, Santana is 4-0 and has yet to give up a run.

CommishJoe · 09-19-2004, 11:48 PM

I know he'd get my vote. The guy has been absolutely incredible.

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Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	Wow! Pedro minus games against Orioles still got higher ERA than Santana. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

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Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	Lucky Pedro won't have to pitch in the upcoming four game series against the Orioles!!!!11111 __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

09-16-2004, 10:03 PM	#51
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	Since Santana has not signed a long term contract yet. Now the Twins got another chance to overpay a player right after their best year!!!!1111 __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

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sixto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,267	hey i just found a web site with articles about baseball from a stathead perspective. check out www.ballparkanalysis.com.

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Kezzek All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Keyboard - frantically typing in subtle insults to raise my self-esteem Posts: 973	If Johan wins it, then dannyc gets to claim LL's "OOTP Forum Prognosticator Extraordinaire" title. We'll have to replace "Legend Lock" with...uh... "dannyc lock"?

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tim_uwrf Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Field of Dreams Posts: 1,998	14 Ks tonight. w00t

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09-19-2004, 11:18 PM	#59
tim_uwrf Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Field of Dreams Posts: 1,998	Santana should have two more starts in September where he will win his third straight Pitcher of the Month. So far in September, Santana is 4-0 and has yet to give up a run.

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CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	I know he'd get my vote. The guy has been absolutely incredible. __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.