foul balls ruining games - Page 3

cshigh · 10-21-2003, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by SoxWin
You can choose to post something useful or you can choose to be ignorant. I'm just not sure how that added to the discussion.

Apparently the latter was chosen here.^

Not sure why it isn't understood. Adding another point of view to the picture. IMO there are more items that can be tweaked, fixed, whatever than the minimal number of foul balls that "slow down" the game by 20 or 30 seconds.

Eric · 10-21-2003, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by holyroller
I find that using the keypad rather than the mouse will significantly increase the speed. For example, on a foul ball instead of clicking on number with the mouse, you just tap number one on the keypad. Much quicker that way. Don't know if that will get rid of the aggrivation entirely.

I use the number keys on the regular keyboard instead of the keypad. By doing this, my pitcher's OBA is lower.

SoxWin · 10-21-2003, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cshigh
Apparently the latter was chosen here.^

Not sure why it isn't understood. Adding another point of view to the picture. IMO there are more items that can be tweaked, fixed, whatever than the minimal number of foul balls that "slow down" the game by 20 or 30 seconds.

Well it wasn't understood because of this post

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Lets go ahead and do away with homeruns, singles, doubles, triples, double plays, ground outs, fly outs, strike outs, walks, wild pitches, passed balls, ground rule doubles, inside the park homeruns, pinch hitters, relief pitchers, catcher's interference, and stolen bases while we are at it.

You don't mention foul balls once, you just mock the thread starter with some nonsensical bs.

I'd LOVE to be able to turn off the foul balls as I do find them an annoyance but I'd love to see how the above post adds "a different point of view"

LivnLegend · 10-21-2003, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by holyroller
I find that using the keypad rather than the mouse will significantly increase the speed. For example, on a foul ball instead of clicking on number with the mouse, you just tap number one on the keypad. Much quicker that way. Don't know if that will get rid of the aggrivation entirely.

It's all about speed!
That's how I play...1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1...
I can knock out a whole 9 inning game in about 4 minutes.

joncarlos · 10-21-2003, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LivnLegend
It's all about speed!
That's how I play...1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1...
I can knock out a whole 9 inning game in about 4 minutes.

Why don't you just hold it down constantly?

Crapshoot · 10-21-2003, 08:46 PM

sigh. the foul balls annoy, and given that I can see the merit in having this game appeal to more people (and there are people who are looking for a slightly more arcade version). I think having the ability to turn it off would be nice- it would fit in with the general view of OOTP as customizable. I have admitted to getting annoyed with foul balls, but that's only because Ive played enough that i know literally pbp string- and seeing the same one for foul balls every time gets irritating.

cshigh · 10-21-2003, 09:32 PM

I would love to have more foul balls, and a game stoppage for a 7th inning "God Bless America."

akw4572 · 10-21-2003, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoxWin
Well it wasn't understood because of this post

You don't mention foul balls once, you just mock the thread starter with some nonsensical bs.

I'd LOVE to be able to turn off the foul balls as I do find them an annoyance but I'd love to see how the above post adds "a different point of view"

Well, for one it would make the game quicker. I hate those 11 minute games with the 8:32 start times. My bedtime is 8:40, so i can't see the end of them.

ey215 · 10-22-2003, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by akw4572
Well, for one it would make the game quicker. I hate those 11 minute games with the 8:32 start times. My bedtime is 8:40, so i can't see the end of them.

roffle

chaleyit · 10-22-2003, 01:07 PM

I agree with you Fish. What I want from a company when I spend my hard earned money giving them my financial vote of confidence is to know that my concerns count to them. Good customer service is a dying art these days. At least three responses to your thread have asked for an option to turn off the foul balls. I do not own the game yet, but how the company reacts to your concerns will definately weigh on my decisions. I run my own business and the customer is KING or QUEEN whatever the case may be. They do not get lectures when they contact me with concerns, they get SERVICE! Obviously I cannot meet every demand, but when I can't meet a specific need I usually prefix my response with an apology and I also try and direct the customer to where they can get what they want. That is what I expect so that is what I give.

Eugene Church · 10-22-2003, 06:11 PM

OOTPB is very good at public relations and responding to our inquiries...they just can't do everything that we want...but they really try hard to please us all...which is impossible to do.

We have had 3 updates/patches for OOTP5...this is unheard of in gaming circles.

THEY DO RESPOND TO OUR REQUESTS AND NEEDS.

I really love the game...and one day it will be more like what I want it to be personally...but it will take time...and the OOTPB staff and developers will probably take it to the level I want.

Henry · 10-22-2003, 06:23 PM

I think this discussion has gone full-circle at this point.... Let me quote one of Markus line items for Version 6....

"1) Brand new in-game engine. I have learned so much in the past 5 years, mainly by watching a lot of baseball and your input. So, I feel it's the best way to completely recode the game engine (including play-by-play), to incorporate the things that are currently not very realistic and adding a lot more variety, and possibly even pitch-by-pitch."

Given the fact this entire area is being recoded, and the possibility exists that pitch-by-pitch could be incorporated, it's reasonable to expect foul balls could become part of the pitch-by-pitch mode - and play-by-play may not include them.

I'm sure Markus has read the thread and will do his best to include a system that will make most of us, if not all of us, "happier"

We're only 4-5 months away from it now

chaleyit · 10-23-2003, 12:46 PM

I didn't mean to offend anyone here at OOTP who works hard. I am sure customer support here is very good, I have heard that more than once in another post I have. It is obvious that the game staff works hard and that customers are important. I am sure that all of the people in this forum can't be wrong. Actually an idea forum like this is excellent because it gives the manufactures an accurate pulse of customer needs.

Chaley

PilgrimsBoss · 12-10-2003, 11:02 AM

Howdy,

My buddy and I are new to the game, and enjoying it very much. We're at the end of June in our first season of our league and I just want to add my voice to those who are unhappy with the pbp and distribution of the foul balls. I don't have any objection to foul balls per se, obviously they are a part of the game. What I'm finding annoying as it comes up on a regular basis in our games, is that if someone fouls one off, there will be a sequence of almost always 3 foul plays that you have to set the defence and pitch for each time. It breaks the immersiveness of the game for me knowing, here comes a sequence of 3 fouls, and also steals confidence that each defensive reset is independent and the results are indeed random.

[But our hatred of Klumpy, the random number generator, is yet another thread.]

I wanted to add two cents in the context of the version 6 development. I realize that this late in the version 5 cycle that it isn't likely to be addressed. It is likely the most negative thing about a game that has us "just playing one more" at midnight and poring over stat sheets to complete trades at 3am on work nights. A relatively minor quibble.

Regards,
Gaur

Manager/GM of the 1st Place Canterbury Pilgrims
(it's still early, but we have Pedro!)

drprestwood · 12-10-2003, 02:08 PM

I'm glad this got brought back, because I wholeheartedly agree. I would have no problem with:

...hits it down the leftfield line, fair if it stays...
...but, it's just a long, loud strike...
...fouls it back behind the plate...
...but the catcher can't get to it...

and so on, for each foul ball. the fact that you have to reselect the strategy every time is very off-putting. I hope Henry is right...if there's a pitch by pitch, fouls would be important. If not, or if there's also a regular mode, I'd like to see the current system changed.

Cooker · 12-10-2003, 03:09 PM

It's well known that some people would prefer the ability to turn off foul balls.

But foul balls do NOT ruin the game. They only mean a few extra mouse clicks from time to time.

So let's wait and see what Markus does with version 6 before getting overly excited about this issue once again!

drprestwood · 12-10-2003, 03:39 PM

I don't think anybody's getting overly exciting.

It just seems that the number of people who truly feel strongly about the foul balls HATE it. While everybody else thinks it's cool or likes it or whatever. The minority isn't that small and is much more emotional about the issue.

Let's talk about this stuff...instead of stifling discussion.

jaxmagicman · 12-10-2003, 04:16 PM

This should have been a poll.

10-21-2003, 08:46 PM	#46
Crapshoot Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: watching: DArwin's missing link in action Posts: 3,112	sigh. the foul balls annoy, and given that I can see the merit in having this game appeal to more people (and there are people who are looking for a slightly more arcade version). I think having the ability to turn it off would be nice- it would fit in with the general view of OOTP as customizable. I have admitted to getting annoyed with foul balls, but that's only because Ive played enough that i know literally pbp string- and seeing the same one for foul balls every time gets irritating. __________________ Senior Senor Member of the OOTP Boards Pittsburgh Playmates- OTBL

10-22-2003, 01:07 PM	#50
chaleyit Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 396	I agree with you Fish. What I want from a company when I spend my hard earned money giving them my financial vote of confidence is to know that my concerns count to them. Good customer service is a dying art these days. At least three responses to your thread have asked for an option to turn off the foul balls. I do not own the game yet, but how the company reacts to your concerns will definately weigh on my decisions. I run my own business and the customer is KING or QUEEN whatever the case may be. They do not get lectures when they contact me with concerns, they get SERVICE! Obviously I cannot meet every demand, but when I can't meet a specific need I usually prefix my response with an apology and I also try and direct the customer to where they can get what they want. That is what I expect so that is what I give. __________________ Life is God's joke on us, so laugh often so She knows you get it.

10-23-2003, 12:46 PM	#53
chaleyit Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PA, USA Posts: 396	I didn't mean to offend anyone here at OOTP who works hard. I am sure customer support here is very good, I have heard that more than once in another post I have. It is obvious that the game staff works hard and that customers are important. I am sure that all of the people in this forum can't be wrong. Actually an idea forum like this is excellent because it gives the manufactures an accurate pulse of customer needs. Chaley __________________ Life is God's joke on us, so laugh often so She knows you get it.

12-10-2003, 11:02 AM	#54
PilgrimsBoss Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1	Howdy, My buddy and I are new to the game, and enjoying it very much. We're at the end of June in our first season of our league and I just want to add my voice to those who are unhappy with the pbp and distribution of the foul balls. I don't have any objection to foul balls per se, obviously they are a part of the game. What I'm finding annoying as it comes up on a regular basis in our games, is that if someone fouls one off, there will be a sequence of almost always 3 foul plays that you have to set the defence and pitch for each time. It breaks the immersiveness of the game for me knowing, here comes a sequence of 3 fouls, and also steals confidence that each defensive reset is independent and the results are indeed random. [But our hatred of Klumpy, the random number generator, is yet another thread.] I wanted to add two cents in the context of the version 6 development. I realize that this late in the version 5 cycle that it isn't likely to be addressed. It is likely the most negative thing about a game that has us "just playing one more" at midnight and poring over stat sheets to complete trades at 3am on work nights. A relatively minor quibble. Regards, Gaur Manager/GM of the 1st Place Canterbury Pilgrims (it's still early, but we have Pedro!) __________________ Manager, Canterbury Pilgrims Chiller League

12-10-2003, 04:16 PM	#58
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	This should have been a poll. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

10-21-2003, 09:32 PM	#47
cshigh All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ludlow, KY Posts: 508	I would love to have more foul balls, and a game stoppage for a 7th inning "God Bless America."

10-22-2003, 06:11 PM	#51
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,226	OOTPB is very good at public relations and responding to our inquiries...they just can't do everything that we want...but they really try hard to please us all...which is impossible to do. We have had 3 updates/patches for OOTP5...this is unheard of in gaming circles. THEY DO RESPOND TO OUR REQUESTS AND NEEDS. I really love the game...and one day it will be more like what I want it to be personally...but it will take time...and the OOTPB staff and developers will probably take it to the level I want.

10-22-2003, 06:23 PM	#52
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	I think this discussion has gone full-circle at this point.... Let me quote one of Markus line items for Version 6.... "1) Brand new in-game engine. I have learned so much in the past 5 years, mainly by watching a lot of baseball and your input. So, I feel it's the best way to completely recode the game engine (including play-by-play), to incorporate the things that are currently not very realistic and adding a lot more variety, and possibly even pitch-by-pitch." Given the fact this entire area is being recoded, and the possibility exists that pitch-by-pitch could be incorporated, it's reasonable to expect foul balls could become part of the pitch-by-pitch mode - and play-by-play may not include them. I'm sure Markus has read the thread and will do his best to include a system that will make most of us, if not all of us, "happier" We're only 4-5 months away from it now

12-10-2003, 02:08 PM	#55
drprestwood All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,501	I'm glad this got brought back, because I wholeheartedly agree. I would have no problem with: ...hits it down the leftfield line, fair if it stays... ...but, it's just a long, loud strike... ...fouls it back behind the plate... ...but the catcher can't get to it... and so on, for each foul ball. the fact that you have to reselect the strategy every time is very off-putting. I hope Henry is right...if there's a pitch by pitch, fouls would be important. If not, or if there's also a regular mode, I'd like to see the current system changed.

12-10-2003, 03:09 PM	#56
Cooker All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 592	It's well known that some people would prefer the ability to turn off foul balls. But foul balls do NOT ruin the game. They only mean a few extra mouse clicks from time to time. So let's wait and see what Markus does with version 6 before getting overly excited about this issue once again!

12-10-2003, 03:39 PM	#57
drprestwood All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,501	I don't think anybody's getting overly exciting. It just seems that the number of people who truly feel strongly about the foul balls HATE it. While everybody else thinks it's cool or likes it or whatever. The minority isn't that small and is much more emotional about the issue. Let's talk about this stuff...instead of stifling discussion.