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Old 07-28-2003, 07:08 PM   #41
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How about ability to change uniform numbers and nicknames Markus...and allow them to be FTP'd as well, it causes my commishes work when I am become uber-realistic boy and change guys that have 60-80 numbers, or put a nickname for a kid that's tearing it up and was supposed to be a bum.

Just adds more personality to OOTP, but a headache for commishes to make these changes when it could easily be done by Online GMs then exported
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Old 07-28-2003, 07:19 PM   #42
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A glitch in the game where you can take Middle Relievers who are superstars and if theyre young, turn them into Starting Pitchers who are stars when their ratings are so high to begin with, simply because they are MR's in the first place. This is a problem, people have tried to cheat like that.
Just curious, but how is this cheating?

In real life MR's are turned into starters and vice versa. Nothing wrong with it at all imo.

I do agree partially with what you're saying though. If you have a stud MR and turn him into an SP, he should "lose" some of his ratings, at least temporarily. He could get them back over a period of time as in normal development.
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Old 07-28-2003, 07:41 PM   #43
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Like others, I have to agree with the "view players with your own scout" idea.

I think two things would need to happen:

a) When a league is set to "online league" as soon as it loads, ask for a password. Whatever password is used it will view players through that teams scout.

b) In order to make scout signing important (and penalize people who sign crappy ones) Make the HTML reports have bad scouting.

I think those two things would be huge.
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Old 07-28-2003, 07:42 PM   #44
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It just promotes a league of where every one is trying to do it, and it gets sloppy .. its just another ploy by a GM to one up another in the world of online leagues.. keeping the balance of competition is the key.. and yeah I agree in conversion, but not with the same dominance with starting pitching ratings
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Old 07-28-2003, 07:43 PM   #45
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Can we make teams being to release their own players an option the commish can turn off?
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:12 PM   #46
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Just curious, but how is this cheating?

In real life MR's are turned into starters and vice versa. Nothing wrong with it at all imo.
He's saying it's cheating because the players are created with good ratings as MRs because the game creates them with the intent that they be used as MRs. Converting them is taking advantage.

I'm with you though, it's definitely not cheating. "Exploiting" at the most.
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:20 PM   #47
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Cheating/Exploiting, too strong, to borrow a quote from Pirates of the Carribean - "its more of a guideline"
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:37 PM   #48
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Its not realistic if a converted Octavio Dotel or K-ROD would pitch like Pedro Martinez if he were a starter.. nor is it fair to try to achieve while every gm isnt trying the same thing
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:43 PM   #49
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two potentially bad examples as their careers are not over.

Maybe a better example would be Derek Lowe?
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a better example is that there isn't one - almost all players aren't set as "relievers" or "starters" and go through the minors as starters. It's once they reach the majors their fate is decided.
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:50 PM   #51
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Its not realistic if a converted Octavio Dotel or K-ROD would pitch like Pedro Martinez if he were a starter..
That's why I said this - If you have a stud MR and turn him into an SP, he should "lose" some of his ratings, at least temporarily. He could get them back over a period of time as in normal development.


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nor is it fair to try to achieve while every gm isnt trying the same thing
Not trying it and not being able to try are two different things. In this case it would be fair because every GM could try it if he so desired.

That's like saying it isn't fair that team A is stealing more bases than the other teams. Nothing stopping other GM's from increasing the stolen base attempts.
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:51 PM   #52
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decided, yes, for the team they are playing for...but not necessarily for their career.


The best answer to the original question : make it a rule in your online league if you don't want MR switching to SP.
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:54 PM   #53
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It's once they reach the majors their fate is decided.
Hmmmm, ever heard of Kelvim Escobar, or Ron Guidry, or Derek Lowe, or Dennis Eckersley, or.........

A pitchers fate is hardly decided when they get to the majors.
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Old 07-28-2003, 09:20 PM   #54
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thats fine it was the decision of our league not to allow it.. not saying it should be removed, but i dont think its the programming intention to have them be that ability if they become starters..

i have many other suggestions for increased fun in online leagues,
that one isnt a big deal its much lower down the list
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Don't allow owners to do contract extensions. It would be way too easy for owners to cheat. All that would be needed is to redownload the league file everytime the extension talks failed.
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Old 07-28-2003, 11:36 PM   #56
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Markus,

I know head to head online won't happen anytime in v5, however is it possible to have the commish export a game immediately to the ftp server so owners can import the game results as soon as the game is simmed? It would really make live playoff sims a blast. The commish would sim one game, up it via the game, and the owners could then import the results from within their game from the ftp server. Everyone could then see box scores and game logs.
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Old 07-28-2003, 11:52 PM   #57
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Hmmmm, ever heard of Kelvim Escobar, or Ron Guidry, or Derek Lowe, or Dennis Eckersley, or.........

A pitchers fate is hardly decided when they get to the majors.
I stick by my message. There's always abberations.
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Old 07-28-2003, 11:53 PM   #58
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1) The ability to delete team emails

2) The ability to trade draft picks

3) It would be cool if there was a way to have the PbP output through a Chat program. So that a League could watch some games live by connecting to the Commish's chat session.

Thanks for asking Markus! It'll be cool to see even just the releasing players change go in, but if there are more online changes it'll be fantastic!
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:20 AM   #59
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In addition to everything mentioned so far (especially the changing league's internal name ), I'd LOVE to have a League-wide Player Development report in the News section.
Here, Here! Nothing is more daily impactful than player development and it would be great in one place.

Probable pipe dream, I would love to have a second team specific ratings report that uses the team's scout to rate your own players. This HTML report would be passworded with the team's password. This would allow online leagues to use scouts again. By the way all other reports would still use an average league wide scout.
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:40 AM   #60
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He's saying it's cheating because the players are created with good ratings as MRs because the game creates them with the intent that they be used as MRs. Converting them is taking advantage.

I'm with you though, it's definitely not cheating. "Exploiting" at the most.
It's definitely not cheating, its a problem with the game and how it models pitchers. I hope the in the future (ootp6+) the line between MR and SP will become less defined and the GM will have to determine pitcher's roles based on stamina, talent and maybe other intangibles (clutch, recoverability, desire to start rating?).

But this type approach all leads down the rabbit hole that ends with raw athletes that the GM decides where they play based on skills and talents rather than being born leftfielders, or third basemen. Quite fascinating but this second step is a huge leap.
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