Historical database issues go here.

[boscoJJ]

Originally Posted by Edster007

Was doing a quick sim of history as I normally do with each new addition. Went to search for certain players to see how their careers went I stumbled upon this, hundreds of players and coaches with the first name ballplayer. clicked on a few none made it to MLB and I had no minor leagues

Cool, what is the setting of yours so there will be milb players without real minor leagues?

[khucke]

Ron Fairly in 1977 import, age 38, had played mainly at 1st base the last few seasons, has too good LF/CF/RF ratings 70/55/65 and 60 to 65 range and arm ratings. AI uses him as OF

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by khucke

Ron Fairly in 1977 import, age 38, had played mainly at 1st base the last few seasons, has too good LF/CF/RF ratings 70/55/65 and 60 to 65 range and arm ratings. AI uses him as OF

To confirm, this was a manual import of just this player? What were the fielding rating import settings on that import pop-up (the one where you put his ID, year, etc.) Or was this a league in 1977 in which case the settings can be found on the historical tab (advanced settings)? If a league, let us know that setting for fielding. thx!

[khucke]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

To confirm, this was a manual import of just this player? What were the fielding rating import settings on that import pop-up (the one where you put his ID, year, etc.) Or was this a league in 1977 in which case the settings can be found on the historical tab (advanced settings)? If a league, let us know that setting for fielding. thx!

it was a league import of the 1977 season. I saw under the settings fielding ratings was set to Entire Career. That may the problem that older players have inflated fielding ratings.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by khucke

it was a league import of the 1977 season. I saw under the settings fielding ratings was set to Entire Career. That may the problem that older players have inflated fielding ratings.

That's the issue. Well, not an issue per se, the game is performing as expected. The entire career setting has him come in with that kind of flexibility by design as there are folks that seek it. With development on (if it is) that will sap some of that skill as time goes by but upon entry, he can play the position. 1B skill is the last to go so he may end up there at some point.

Relative to expectations, 3-year may work better for you. As a surgical fix, you can always remove the experience there in the player editor and it will be fine until the next recalc. You can also adjust the fielding setting for imports before the next recalc and see if that adjusts players going forward.

[Edster007]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

For the top screenshot, the ballplayers, go to those and tell me a few of the Historical Minors IDs. "Ballplayer" is the name of a player when no first name is known to history - there are plenty if real-life minors is toggled on. But with a Historical Minors ID, I can give you a specific example of who these folks are by pasting that ID into Baseball-Reference.

When you say you had no minors, do you mean that you did not import real minors in the Historical Start-up wizard? If that's the case, any other steps taken on game creation out of the default ordinary?

I am traveling and wont have access to the game for a couple of days


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[tem316]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Did you change the time of year of the draft? Sometimes this can happen if you set the draft to earlier in the year.

Has NEVER been an issue in the past. By the way as a default, MLB Common Draft (referred to as Rookie Draft) was conducted the second week in June from 1969 until 2020(the Covid Year) when it was moved to July. Pet peeve of mine.

[Little Red Rooster]

not a big deal but Pete Rose and Billy Williams are both listed incorrectly in the uni number file so their numbers don't load correctly. Rose is under rosepe02 and should be rosepe01 and Williams is under willibi02 and should be under willibi01.

[Trav876]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Can you give more information about the set-up and what specifically is happening? I took it that you are trying to manually import an MLB player using their rookie year and it wasn't working. I tried importing willite01 in 1939 and Ted Williams came in as he should... but maybe I am misunderstanding the issue. Let us know more and so OOTPD can get it sorted - thanks!

EDIT: I'm rereading this and I think that you have rookies going to their historical MLB debut teams. The choice of how rookies come in is on Step 2 of the Historic Game Wizard now and defaults to rookies to their appropriate team. Since you have started the game already, go to League Settings>>Rules, and then look halfway down on the right-had side to see if the Amateur Draft is turned on.

I had amateur draft enabled and historical rookies enabled (but not to their original teams, so they should just go into a draft pool). Did it in OOTP 24 just fine, but imported into 25 and did not work. Just a blank database. I did not manually import- in the past versions it just loads them in automatically (i.e., it will load that year's draft class if I don't have "import to original teams" checked).

[pstrickert]

Originally Posted by Little Red Rooster

not a big deal but Pete Rose and Billy Williams are both listed incorrectly in the uni number file so their numbers don't load correctly. Rose is under rosepe02 and should be rosepe01 and Williams is under willibi02 and should be under willibi01.

Fixed.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by Trav876

I had amateur draft enabled and historical rookies enabled (but not to their original teams, so they should just go into a draft pool). Did it in OOTP 24 just fine, but imported into 25 and did not work. Just a blank database. I did not manually import- in the past versions it just loads them in automatically (i.e., it will load that year's draft class if I don't have "import to original teams" checked).

Got it. Two more questions: What is the date that the amateur date takes place and how many days before that is the draft pool unveiled?

[tem316]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

If this is not behaving as in past years, it's likely a bug. I just thought from the descriptions that is was similar to previously if you changed the draft date. But I could be 100% wrong on that!

Markus, I have always changed the draft date to June, and NEVER had draft issues. Been playing OOTP since 2005. Has ANYONE else besides the two of us here had an issue. I think it is a bug.

[Trav876]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Got it. Two more questions: What is the date that the amateur date takes place and how many days before that is the draft pool unveiled?

I had the draft for Dec 20th or whatever the general default is... and I tried different dates for the reveal but they were all well in advance (like 90 or 120 days) so I could try seeing the pool early before continuing with the sim.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Trav876

I had the draft for Dec 20th or whatever the general default is... and I tried different dates for the reveal but they were all well in advance (like 90 or 120 days) so I could try seeing the pool early before continuing with the sim.

It seems like displaying the draft before the end of the season is bugged. The players should show up once the season is over.

We'll take a look at this before long.

[rpriske]

I don't know if this is the right place for this, but when I am importing my old games, if the game was started as Historical, I am getting an error saying it can't connect to the Historical Database.

I am running on a Mac, if that makes any difference.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by rpriske

I don't know if this is the right place for this, but when I am importing my old games, if the game was started as Historical, I am getting an error saying it can't connect to the Historical Database.

I am running on a Mac, if that makes any difference.

This is a screenshot of my 24. From the Historical Game Wizard. I hit (on the upper left-hand side) "Select Path to Database". Can you tell me if you have anything different in yours?

Or in one of the games that won't move over, does it point to a different drive (mine is a Windows FastSpring default installation so a mac will vary but the contents shouldn't). As I think I said on another thread, that's the kind of message for something mis-pointed or looking for a custom db (like Spritze's old one) that is manually chosen when creating a game.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by rpriske

I don't know if this is the right place for this, but when I am importing my old games, if the game was started as Historical, I am getting an error saying it can't connect to the Historical Database.

I am running on a Mac, if that makes any difference.

If it still fails or is definitely pointed to the right place, I'd go to settings at the main start screen, troubleshooting, force a reinstall (in case the odb file installation got borked or blocked by some internal mac blocker or over aggressive protection software).

[rpriske]

It ISN'T the same place, due to me being on a Mac, I assume. (But it is consistent. Same basic location, but Mac's use 'Container' files for stuff like this.)

So do I manually change that?

I checked and the in-game DB that the imported game (in v25) says it is pointing to is OOTP25. Should I re-point it to 24?

It should update to the new version of the DB on import, no?

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by rpriske

It ISN'T the same place, due to me being on a Mac, I assume.

So I guess I can manually change that?

I checked and the in-game DB that the imported game (in v25) says it is pointing to is OOTP25. Should I re-point it to 24?

It should update to the new version of the DB on import, no?

Are your 24 game and 25 game pointing to the same place? (EDIT same EQUIVILANT place) And do that have files named the same thing? That's probably more the issue - it needs to point to the .odb location. In a defulat set up, the file is always called the same and in the same place but if you customized the db or the location or the file is named slightly differently, that might cause that error. So, it is less having it point to the precise same as mine (in Windows) and more about it looking for it in the 24 place and seeing the same named file in the 25 place.. If that makes sense...

[LansdowneSt]

Keep it pointing to 25 - but you want to ensure the .odb file is 1) there 2) named correctly (consistently) and 3) wasn't borked on install. If the 24 file is named different that means it is looking for something different though.

So for example, if I made a game with a db where I changed something or was a mod and then forgot that I did that, I loaded, in that historical game, a db named something different. That's why I wanted to see the contents of the 24 stats file.