Would You Still Buy/Play OOTP If It Didn't Have the MLB License? - Page 3

clamel · 10-13-2023, 07:09 AM

Think losing the international leagues are big already.
Looks like OOTP going backwards to the years we had in the past.
Playing with especially *** in makes it feel much more realistic. No Japanese players pop up with no stats every year. Feels silly.
I understand playing with all fictional is a different ballgame.
Playing longtime into the future will end you up with all fictional but still those foreign players do have a history.
The last couple of version OOTP have taken the hard work of putting in potential draftclasses in years to come based on real HS players which I think is just fantastic. Ads more realism to the game.

Still I play mostly historical and in that they do pop up with no stat, but in that it feels OK. After all it is the correct players.

Sweed · 10-13-2023, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by majesty95

Yes. I think the license is money better spent on development but there may be other factors we’re not aware of.

I think the problem here is the license money generates sales that pay for the license. IE it's self sustaining, leads to greater profits (or at worst breaks even), and gives OOTP Dev. a bit of prestige in the gaming world. Win-win for Markus. The only downside is MLB having some say in what the game can or cannot do. IE drug suspensions etc. since real names are being used. For me personally, I don't think the few things left out of the game due to MLB is hurting the game at all.

I don't know of a sports simulation maker that would turn down official licensing if they could get it. Their problem is someone else has an exclusive deal with the league, or they can't afford to do so because the game is a niche product. OOTP growing to where it could afford to get a license, while still being a niche game, is the exception to the rule.

PSUColonel · 10-13-2023, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by clamel

Think losing the international leagues are big already.
Looks like OOTP going backwards to the years we had in the past.
Playing with especially *** in makes it feel much more realistic. No Japanese players pop up with no stats every year. Feels silly.
I understand playing with all fictional is a different ballgame.
Playing longtime into the future will end you up with all fictional but still those foreign players do have a history.
The last couple of version OOTP have taken the hard work of putting in potential draftclasses in years to come based on real HS players which I think is just fantastic. Ads more realism to the game.

Still I play mostly historical and in that they do pop up with no stat, but in that it feels OK. After all it is the correct players.

This is not true. It’s the actual leagues which produced players organically and with stats. Now, without them you will have foreign players magically appearing without stats.

Mr. Marlin · 10-17-2023, 12:03 PM

Absolutely! I played it for years before Marcus & Co. acquired the license. I don't even play the MLB presets anyway.

Cactusguy21 · 10-17-2023, 01:08 PM

I'm never buying OOTP again after this year's dumpster fire, so yeah, doesn't matter if it had the license.

Bring back the int'l leagues, fix the trade frequency, and make the stats database more easily interacted with (see what BasketballGM does).

AirmenSmith · 10-17-2023, 11:21 PM

I would still play without hesitation. I kiss the days they didn’t have the license honestly. The game didn’t have to be PC or follow certain rules.

gordontrek · 10-18-2023, 01:21 AM

A relatively new player's perspective: yes, I would. Having real-life MLB teams and players wasn't even the main attraction for me (although it was an important consideration). I was more enticed by the ability to just build an entire baseball universe from the ground up, fictional included. THAT is probably what I enjoy doing the most, and that alone would make buying the program worth it to me.

As an instructive comparison: If I had the choice between Madden NFL and an unlicensed OOTP-style gridiron football program, I would take the OOTP-style game every time. Playing with real teams doesn't mean jack to me if the game sucks, whereas an achievement like OOTP is worth it with or without real teams IMO.

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10-17-2023, 11:21 PM	#46
AirmenSmith Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 2,094	I would still play without hesitation. I kiss the days they didn’t have the license honestly. The game didn’t have to be PC or follow certain rules. __________________ Come join me on my Twitch Channel for gaming at its excellence Twitch Link

10-13-2023, 07:09 AM	#41
clamel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Across the Pond Posts: 1,037	Think losing the international leagues are big already. Looks like OOTP going backwards to the years we had in the past. Playing with especially *** in makes it feel much more realistic. No Japanese players pop up with no stats every year. Feels silly. I understand playing with all fictional is a different ballgame. Playing longtime into the future will end you up with all fictional but still those foreign players do have a history. The last couple of version OOTP have taken the hard work of putting in potential draftclasses in years to come based on real HS players which I think is just fantastic. Ads more realism to the game. Still I play mostly historical and in that they do pop up with no stat, but in that it feels OK. After all it is the correct players.

10-17-2023, 12:03 PM	#44
Mr. Marlin All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,274	Absolutely! I played it for years before Marcus & Co. acquired the license. I don't even play the MLB presets anyway.

10-17-2023, 01:08 PM	#45
Cactusguy21 Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 332	I'm never buying OOTP again after this year's dumpster fire, so yeah, doesn't matter if it had the license. Bring back the int'l leagues, fix the trade frequency, and make the stats database more easily interacted with (see what BasketballGM does).

10-18-2023, 01:21 AM	#47
gordontrek Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: Michigan Posts: 6	A relatively new player's perspective: yes, I would. Having real-life MLB teams and players wasn't even the main attraction for me (although it was an important consideration). I was more enticed by the ability to just build an entire baseball universe from the ground up, fictional included. THAT is probably what I enjoy doing the most, and that alone would make buying the program worth it to me. As an instructive comparison: If I had the choice between Madden NFL and an unlicensed OOTP-style gridiron football program, I would take the OOTP-style game every time. Playing with real teams doesn't mean jack to me if the game sucks, whereas an achievement like OOTP is worth it with or without real teams IMO.