Where's the rainout patch?!?

[rink23]

Please stop the rain.
Had all kinds of issues after downloading 2024 with rain delays and rainouts.
After the previous patch, it seemed to slow down a bit.
Downloaded the newest one tonight, played out six games, five had rain delays with one getting called after seven innings.
This needs to be fixed.

[Dave Stieb II]

Who'll stop the rain?

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[texasmame]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

The only thing I will say, and I will do so gently, is that some of us are very spoiled by what we have experienced here with OOTPD over the years.

One month since a patch? I have been on forums in which the developers don't even talk to the community and could take many months to fix egregious bugs, if at all. OOTPD has earned my trust and my indulgence because the difference between them and the other developers that I have in mind is like night and day.

This is true - their communication has always been excellent.

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by texasmame

This is true - their communication has always been excellent.

I think they are pretty responsive as well. It's probably coincidental, but they have added several things to the game that I have posted about. In addition, they have fixed some obscure things that have bothered me that I haven't mentioned. And there's subtle improvements made that I don't anyone has mentioned.

[moore4807]

I have not noticed in my single player games, any high totals of rainouts or rain delays. My most extensive gameplay time has been with the Miami Marlins (Who have a dome stadium which may account for my ignorance).

I got mad earlier this year in another thread with ALL of the "this game sucks", and "the developers suck" comments, and my ugly ogre side came out. What I want to say is we ALL are playing the MLB game in different ways, and it was the game developers who made this possible over the years!!! This old dog has personally learned a couple tips in this years game from reading the forums here. There was a lot more banter and comradery among the players in the forums in prior years than now, but the game developers, are still here and trying to help out - even though they are seemingly taking more cr*p than ever before!

Yes its been just over 30 days since OOTP24 got released, and I can't imagine why people are sniping about unplayable conditions when already patches have come out to fix problems, and more are promised shortly by the ever responsive developers.

Yes you spent your money for a game and want it to work the way you want it to work. I haven't found too many other games that give you the customer service that OOTP has in their long history of making MLB simulations, so my sage advice is cool your heels and start up another scenario using a dome stadium team, until the next patch fixing this problem comes out.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by moore4807

I have not noticed in my single player games, any high totals of rainouts or rain delays. My most extensive gameplay time has been with the Miami Marlins (Who have a dome stadium which may account for my ignorance).

I got mad earlier this year in another thread with ALL of the "this game sucks", and "the developers suck" comments, and my ugly ogre side came out. What I want to say is we ALL are playing the MLB game in different ways, and it was the game developers who made this possible over the years!!! This old dog has personally learned a couple tips in this years game from reading the forums here. There was a lot more banter and comradery among the players in the forums in prior years than now, but the game developers, are still here and trying to help out - even though they are seemingly taking more cr*p than ever before!

Yes its been just over 30 days since OOTP24 got released, and I can't imagine why people are sniping about unplayable conditions when already patches have come out to fix problems, and more are promised shortly by the ever responsive developers.

Yes you spent your money for a game and want it to work the way you want it to work. I haven't found too many other games that give you the customer service that OOTP has in their long history of making MLB simulations, so my sage advice is cool your heels and start up another scenario using a dome stadium team, until the next patch fixing this problem comes out.

I agree with all of this 100 percent. I have no doubt the issues will be fixed. The issue I sort of have however is that it seems like the game is being (adjusted for lack of a better word) for a bit different of an audience. It seems the advent of PT has brought with it a different type of fan base whose priority is “fun factor” over hardcore realism. It’s my opinion that this is how the PCMs got so out of whack to begin with. It appeared the devs wanted many more highly rated players in an effort to drum up excitement among more casual users with less concern for reality. Now, the dev team denies this, and maybe it’s true, and maybe it’s not. I just don’t see how things could go from what myself and many others considered normal over the years to that. Now they are talking about a medium balance, while may be ok with some, but for me, I want it as absolutely realistic as possible. That’s why many of us here were drawn to OOTP years ago. But now we have a very small game world (a couple of leagues) and the idea that more casual players need to be catered to.

Don’t get me wrong…I get it, times and people change. I have now been labeled a racist on these boards for merely suggesting it was a mistake to sell the company to a Korean Company whose main interest is mobile pay to play gaming. So things are definitely not as they once were.

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

It seems the advent of PT has brought with it a different type of fan base whose priority is “fun factor” over hardcore realism.

I think it's hard to strike a balance that pleases everyone. The fun factor stuff can be enjoyable, but there's really only so much hardcore realism possible in a game that needs an RNG to create replayability. Baseball fans may be the most statistically literate fans of any sport so our expectations of realism from a game are pretty high because the game has been already quantified in such great detail.

[dishnet34]

It was announced on the TWIPT Stream today on the OOTPD channel that a new patch will be available tomorrow.

[Pelican]

Not only are there 360 compass points, but probably that many ways to play the game. And each of us will be most sensitive to the particular way we play. Which leads naturally to bug reports on minor problems that may suggest broader issues. What continues to amaze me is how the developers pay attention to all of these issues, and work with the posters who report bugs. It's a lot to expect them to fix everything immediately, when they always have to consider whether a tweak here will affect something else over there. Agreed that we all need to have some patience while these things work themselves out.

The glass half-empty crowd sees the repeated patches as evidence the game is flawed, was released prematurely, on and on. The glass half-full sees the game as playable and fun on the first download, constantly being improved, a work in progress (but not "building the plane while flying it"). My glass is half-full. Of baseball games!

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by Pelican

The glass half-empty crowd sees the repeated patches as evidence the game is flawed, was released prematurely, on and on. The glass half-full sees the game as playable and fun on the first download, constantly being improved, a work in progress (but not "building the plane while flying it"). My glass is half-full. Of baseball games!

There are lots of subtle improvements.

Has anyone even noticed the difference between 23 and 24 where a low avoid-K rate for hitters now has a real adverse affect on a player's overall rating?

There were minor-leaguers in 23 who would rate about 40/80 or 45/80 and would get brought up by the 1962 Mets and strike out 190 times. My reaction was like "who tf is that guy?" and I would look at his real-life stats and see that he never got past A ball -- presumably because of his strikeout rate.

Now, in 24, the game looks at the same exact player and rates him 20/80 and he stays right in A-ball where he belongs until he leaves the sport.

One person might argue that sabermetrics says a player shouldn't be punished for a high K rate, but then another would say it's absolutely more realistic that the game keeps him in the minors.

[Carplos]

Originally Posted by Pelican

The glass half-empty crowd sees the repeated patches as evidence the game is flawed, was released prematurely, on and on. The glass half-full sees the game as playable and fun on the first download, constantly being improved, a work in progress (but not "building the plane while flying it"). My glass is half-full. Of baseball games!

It also depends on how you play. I'm in the glass half-full camp because I find it completely playable and haven't run into many issues. I've some slight financial issues in fictional play, but not the near the level others have experienced in MLB/historical leagues.

So I can understand why some people are on the half-empty side, but at the same time, there is a lot of trollish and disrespectful behavior around too (not specific to the half-empty side.)

Sometimes this place is more toxic than social media.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Carplos

Sometimes this place is more toxic than social media.

Nawww... moderation is too aggressive for that.

[itsmb8]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

The only thing I will say, and I will do so gently, is that some of us are very spoiled by what we have experienced here with OOTPD over the years.

One month since a patch? I have been on forums in which the developers don't even talk to the community and could take many months to fix egregious bugs, if at all. OOTPD has earned my trust and my indulgence because the difference between them and the other developers that I have in mind is like night and day.

All i had to do was post one sentence and they released the beta patch

[Brad K]

I don't recall any software being patched as often as OOTP. I think the practice has created an unrealistic expectation for patches. I can imagine an OOTP player being taken to the hospital moaning "I need a patch" and the doctor saying "According to your records you're not a smoker."

[oriole^]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Nawww... moderation is too aggressive for that.

Now where's that like button...?

[MikeS369]

I'm guessing this issue has not been resolved considering I'm getting rainouts in July in Houston.

[Red08]

Originally Posted by MikeS369

I'm guessing this issue has not been resolved considering I'm getting rainouts in July in Houston.

Are you using the beta patch?

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by MikeS369

I'm guessing this issue has not been resolved considering I'm getting rainouts in July in Houston.

Did the retractable roof get stuck in the open position?

[omg_pwnasaurus]

I am not using the beta patch and am in May with my 1977 historical season and have not seen a single rain out yet.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by omg_pwnasaurus

I am not using the beta patch and am in May with my 1977 historical season and have not seen a single rain out yet.

That's far too few compared to real life.

I don't have the 1977 season done, but I do have the data for 1978 season. Through April, there were 22 postponed games out of 284 scheduled game events in the majors. That's 7.7% or about 1 game in 13. In May, there were 27 postponed games out of 371 scheduled game events. That's 7.3% or about 1 game in 14.

For the season as a whole there were 77 postponed games out of 2,179 game events. That's 3.5% or about 1 game in 28. Five of the postponed games were not made up. The number of postponed games each month:

22 = April
27 = May
09 = June
07 = July
05 = August
07 = September

Postponements by team:

9 = CLE
8 = PIT
7 = MIN
6 = BAL, NYN
4 = ATL, DET, TOR
3 = BOS, CHN, MON, OAK, PHI
2 = CHA, LAN, MIL, NYA, TEX
1 = CAL, CIN, SDN, SLN

The six remaining clubs had no postponed games.