PT22 Card Issues - Page 3

pstrickert · 04-14-2021, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kanados

Historical Legend Bob Caruthers (PEAK, 97) is perhaps a bit overpowered as a hitter. Here are his 2022 and 2021 (also peak) incarnations for comparison, showing a significant bump for this year's card. Ratings are 1-100 scale.

Not to mention his steal rating. BB-ref has no CS data for him. Is this interpreted by OOTP as 0 CS? Same goes for Adonis Terry, another 19th century pitcher. Steal rating is 100+.

andoocure · 04-14-2021, 10:01 PM

Re: 94 Pop Williams

I inadvertently pressed 'set to LF' and am now unable to set his position to SP or RP. There's no 'use as a two-way player' option like there is for other players. Has anyone run into something similar? Is the card stuck as an unusable LF that will sit on my reserve roster forever? Any suggestions would be much appreciated...I've looked all through the strategy section and can't physically set his position to SP or RP, so I'm out of ideas!

FancySkunk · 04-15-2021, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FancySkunk

DA186 mentioned this on discord:

Peak Joe Gordon is missing the art tag signifying what type of card it is (presumably historical legend?)

Looks like other cards representing this decade have this issue as well. Was this intentional then?

neugey · 04-18-2021, 09:48 AM

43 Unsung Heroes RP Danny Murphy only has 1 Stamina. I haven't seen another qualifier pitcher with 1 stamina in OOTP before. I think this is likely a mistake. His game logs in 1969 show him frequently going 1-3 innings.

PeterLaCock · 05-14-2021, 10:32 AM

George Hogriever's 1901 card shows the Brewers team logo.

Kippppp · 06-04-2021, 12:20 AM

*Nevermind. Problem solved. Don't know how to delete this comment.

Justinw303 · 08-06-2021, 12:04 PM

I don't know if this is considered "major" enough to be listed here, but it struck me as odd enough that I figured I'd mention it.

Live Harrison Bader has a 58 speed rating. I'm not sure what you base your speed ratings on for current players, but according to MLB's Statcast Sprint Speed leaderboards, Bader is 8th out of 295 players with a minimum 50 recorded events. 7th out of 341 last year (minimum 25 events). He plays a solid CF and you even acknowledge that with a 98 OF range. How does a 58 in speed pass the eye test?

Trea Turner even manages to be underrated at an 85. He's been top 3, often #1, in sprint speed since his debut. Literally hasn't lost a step since his rookie season. Should be nowhere lower than a 95, but he's chilling at 85. It's not the size of the gap is his case, it's that there's a gap at all. He's Trea Turner. Someone should need to work up a full-on presentation to defend having his speed in the 80s.

Anyways, apologies again if this dispute is too petty for this thread. Maybe there could be a sticky thread for grievances like this? Something to ponder, thanks for your attention

Justinw303 · 08-06-2021, 12:04 PM

Damn double post, sorry

dishnet34 · 08-08-2021, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Justinw303

I don't know if this is considered "major" enough to be listed here, but it struck me as odd enough that I figured I'd mention it.

Live Harrison Bader has a 58 speed rating. I'm not sure what you base your speed ratings on for current players, but according to MLB's Statcast Sprint Speed leaderboards, Bader is 8th out of 295 players with a minimum 50 recorded events. 7th out of 341 last year (minimum 25 events). He plays a solid CF and you even acknowledge that with a 98 OF range. How does a 58 in speed pass the eye test?

Trea Turner even manages to be underrated at an 85. He's been top 3, often #1, in sprint speed since his debut. Literally hasn't lost a step since his rookie season. Should be nowhere lower than a 95, but he's chilling at 85. It's not the size of the gap is his case, it's that there's a gap at all. He's Trea Turner. Someone should need to work up a full-on presentation to defend having his speed in the 80s.

Anyways, apologies again if this dispute is too petty for this thread. Maybe there could be a sticky thread for grievances like this? Something to ponder, thanks for your attention

I think I've heard this somewhere before, but I can't remember where on the forums it would be, but the speed stat, IIRC, doesn't correlate necessarily to "sprint speed". I think it's used in conjunction with the stealing stat, where the speed stat is the frequency of stealing bases, while the stealing stat is how successful someone would be at stealing bases. It seems weird, most definitely, but that's how I remember people talking about that in the past.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong or off-base.

Justinw303 · 08-20-2021, 09:38 AM

I think I've heard it posited that players with speed rating much higher than stealing rating could be a liability because the AI would lend them an overconfidence in their ability to steal relative to their raw speed, so they'd be thrown out a higher rate because of this hubris. Thus, you wouldn't target high-speed low-steal players in Perfect Team. But the OotP manual seems to suggest that speed means raw baserunning speed (likelihood of stretching a double into a triple for example)

sluggingbubba · 08-24-2021, 03:37 PM

My Nomah 99 strikes out twice as often as the real Nomah did. 100k's in a season, no way. My team ballpark is a copy of Fenway too.

Nomar in Name Only - NINO

professor ape · 08-30-2021, 08:45 AM

I downloaded the spreadsheet with this morning’s live updates. The ratings do not seem to match up. As example; Casey Mize shows as having dropped from a OVR 72 to a 69 but in the game his current OVR is 60. The first four players I spot checked had similar issues.

ncap99 · 08-31-2021, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sluggingbubba

My Nomah 99 strikes out twice as often as the real Nomah did. 100k's in a season, no way. My team ballpark is a copy of Fenway too.

Nomar in Name Only - NINO

Nomar also wasn't facing an all star level pitcher every at bat in real life.

HermanSmutley · 09-07-2021, 06:51 AM

Pulled the Nolan Arenado live card and the artwork still shows as a 96 Diamond rather than an 89 Gold.

FancySkunk · 09-08-2021, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HermanSmutley

Pulled the Nolan Arenado live card and the artwork still shows as a 96 Diamond rather than an 89 Gold.

Hit the gear on the right side, and then from the troubleshooting drop down menu (a bit under the submit team button), select "reset caches." That will force the game to download the updated card art.

FrontOfficeJer · 09-09-2021, 08:24 PM

Shocked and Surprised Ohtani isn't dual eligible in OOTP22, when I have him in OOTP21 and he plays both ways.

FancySkunk · 09-09-2021, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FrontOfficeJer

Shocked and Surprised Ohtani isn't dual eligible in OOTP22, when I have him in OOTP21 and he plays both ways.

He is 100% able to pitch (though he's not a particularly good pitcher)

FrontOfficeJer · 09-10-2021, 01:12 PM

I can see the ratings just fine, but Positionally it doesn't show him able to pitch, I cannot assign his position as Pitcher either, and he doesn't show up in my Pitching Staff either. But he does in OOTP21.
Looking for him to be reliever if anything right now haha

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Originally Posted by FancySkunk

He is 100% able to pitch (though he's not a particularly good pitcher)

Torgonius · 09-10-2021, 01:24 PM

You need to check the 'use as two way player' box on his individual strategy screen.

FrontOfficeJer · 09-10-2021, 03:36 PM

Awesome! thank you!!

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Originally Posted by Torgonius

You need to check the 'use as two way player' box on his individual strategy screen.

04-18-2021, 09:48 AM	#44
neugey All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 805	43 Unsung Heroes RP Danny Murphy only has 1 Stamina. I haven't seen another qualifier pitcher with 1 stamina in OOTP before. I think this is likely a mistake. His game logs in 1969 show him frequently going 1-3 innings. __________________ Online OOTP League Play: PBA - Cincinnati Reds MLM - Baltimore Orioles

05-14-2021, 10:32 AM	#45
PeterLaCock Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 24	51 Unsung Heroes G Hogriever George Hogriever's 1901 card shows the Brewers team logo.

06-04-2021, 12:20 AM	#46
Kippppp Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 1	Nevermind. Problem solved. Don't know how to delete this comment. Last edited by Kippppp; 06-04-2021 at 12:25 AM.*

08-06-2021, 12:04 PM	#48
Justinw303 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 84 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Damn double post, sorry Last edited by Justinw303; 08-06-2021 at 12:05 PM.

08-24-2021, 03:37 PM	#51
sluggingbubba Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 4	Nomah 99 strikes out way too much My Nomah 99 strikes out twice as often as the real Nomah did. 100k's in a season, no way. My team ballpark is a copy of Fenway too. Nomar in Name Only - NINO

04-14-2021, 10:01 PM	#42
andoocure Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 10	Re: 94 Pop Williams I inadvertently pressed 'set to LF' and am now unable to set his position to SP or RP. There's no 'use as a two-way player' option like there is for other players. Has anyone run into something similar? Is the card stuck as an unusable LF that will sit on my reserve roster forever? Any suggestions would be much appreciated...I've looked all through the strategy section and can't physically set his position to SP or RP, so I'm out of ideas!

08-20-2021, 09:38 AM	#50
Justinw303 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 84 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I think I've heard it posited that players with speed rating much higher than stealing rating could be a liability because the AI would lend them an overconfidence in their ability to steal relative to their raw speed, so they'd be thrown out a higher rate because of this hubris. Thus, you wouldn't target high-speed low-steal players in Perfect Team. But the OotP manual seems to suggest that speed means raw baserunning speed (likelihood of stretching a double into a triple for example)

08-30-2021, 08:45 AM	#52
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	I downloaded the spreadsheet with this morning’s live updates. The ratings do not seem to match up. As example; Casey Mize shows as having dropped from a OVR 72 to a 69 but in the game his current OVR is 60. The first four players I spot checked had similar issues. __________________

09-07-2021, 06:51 AM	#54
HermanSmutley Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: England Posts: 87	Pulled the Nolan Arenado live card and the artwork still shows as a 96 Diamond rather than an 89 Gold.

09-09-2021, 08:24 PM	#56
FrontOfficeJer Bat Boy Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 3	Ohtani LIVE Card Does NOT Include his Pitcher Position? Shocked and Surprised Ohtani isn't dual eligible in OOTP22, when I have him in OOTP21 and he plays both ways.

09-10-2021, 01:24 PM	#59
Torgonius All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 852	You need to check the 'use as two way player' box on his individual strategy screen. __________________ When you let your 10 year old name the team