Complete Universe Facegen Pack

[Makonnen]

16 more.

Babe Adams, Nixey Callahan, Bill Carrigan, Ray Collins, Bob Feller, Hank Gastright, Peaches Graham, Jeff Heathcock, Si Johnson, Bill Knickerbocker, John Malarkey, Tom Niedenfuer, Dick Rudolph, Nolan Ryan, Sam Streeter, Harley Young.

There are a lot of misnamed .fg files out there. If I have time someday, I'll put together a script to generate a list of them. Additionally, at some point, someone saved files under multiple possibilities--I am assuming because older versions of the game used other IDs?

So, for example, Nolan Ryan is in there as both ryan--001lyn.fg and ryan--001nol.fg. I like mine better than that default, but it's an example of some file bloat in the system.

[ALB123]

I appreciate your work on this project, Makonnen. I was so happy when FancySkunk announced his intentions of keeping this project alive. I'll be waiting until FancySkunk releases an update including all of your contributions too. It's just easier for me to keep track of one BIG file than several small files in addition to the big momma! Great job!

[Makonnen]

Originally Posted by ALB123

I appreciate your work on this project, Makonnen. I was so happy when FancySkunk announced his intentions of keeping this project alive. I'll be waiting until FancySkunk releases an update including all of your contributions too. It's just easier for me to keep track of one BIG file than several small files in addition to the big momma! Great job!

I agree completely with the ease of the single large file. And, if there is a better way for me to provide/share my contributions, I'm happy to. The larger project could use some help just from a management perspective. In a perfect world

* All players in the OOTP database would have the correct minor league ID in them (not all do).
* This project would follow the minor league ID naming pattern, and would eliminate the files leftover from prior and/or incorrect naming conventions.

But that's a lot of administrative work , and would require some coordination, I think, with the folks maintaining the "master" ootp database. I can help with that, but I don't have the bandwidth to lead it, unfortunately.

[BigRed75]

I think I've stumbled across a mis-named file...

Former Royals and Reds starter Danny Jackson has a BBRef minors id of jackso004dan - and there is no corresponding fg file with that (nor is there one with his BBref id or full name).

There is, however, a facegen with jackso001dan - that looks suspiciously like him.

For the record, jackso001dan belongs to a Daniel Jackson who pitched four games for River City in the Frontier League back in 2002, so I don't think the facegen is his.

[BigRed75]

And another one - Vinegar Bend Mizell has a BBRef minors id of mizell002wil but the facegen file is named mizell001vin

It's definitely his face, though, as renaming the file and reloading it confirmed.

I'm finding more as I go through what I'm doing so I'll just add on to this post.

Bob Borkowski - borkow002rob - file is borkow001bob

Joe Garagiola - garagi001jos - file is garagi001joe

Frank Tavares - tavare002fra - file is tavare001fra

Scot Shields - shield002rob - file is shield003rob

[Makonnen]

@BigRed75, yes, this is a very widespread issue. I have ideas about how to address, but they'll require more time than I have to throw at it for at least a month or three. But if I can, I'll take up the mantle of reconciling filenames to their minorleaugeIDs.

In the meantime, 10 more.

Jose Abreu, Pud Galvin *, Ramon Herandez, Carl Hubbell, Joe Kelley, Herman Long *, Buck O'Brien *, Milt Pappas, Jose E Ramirez, Jack W Taylor *

* - Updated version.

[BigRed75]

Originally Posted by Makonnen

@BigRed75, yes, this is a very widespread issue. I have ideas about how to address, but they'll require more time than I have to throw at it for at least a month or three. But if I can, I'll take up the mantle of reconciling filenames to their minorleaugeIDs.

How would you like me to proceed? Keep adding ones I find to the above post? Create a file and post it to you privately? Let me know

[Makonnen]

Originally Posted by BigRed75

How would you like me to proceed? Keep adding ones I find to the above post? Create a file and post it to you privately? Let me know

I think public is best. The easiest for me (I'm integrating your changes as I go as well) would be to hold onto them and post every 10 or 20 or whatever.

The challenge with the post updates is there's no notification.

Alternatively, I could create a public Google Doc or the like, and you could just edit there and we would post the link there--that way it would both be public and be something you could as you go.

Thoughts?

[BigRed75]

Originally Posted by Makonnen

I think public is best. The easiest for me (I'm integrating your changes as I go as well) would be to hold onto them and post every 10 or 20 or whatever.

The challenge with the post updates is there's no notification.

Alternatively, I could create a public Google Doc or the like, and you could just edit there and we would post the link there--that way it would both be public and be something you could as you go.

Thoughts?

I think the Google Doc is the best way. I can just have it open and edit as I go.

Would a spreadsheet be best? Three columns: Player name, correct id, incorrect id.

Not to throw a wrench in the plans, but I've also found two or three players who have a more recent (and better looking) fg file under their full name instead of their bbref minors id.

[Makonnen]

Originally Posted by BigRed75

I think the Google Doc is the best way. I can just have it open and edit as I go.

Would a spreadsheet be best? Three columns: Player name, correct id, incorrect id.

Not to throw a wrench in the plans, but I've also found two or three players who have a more recent (and better looking) fg file under their full name instead of their bbref minors id.

Fantastico. See if this works

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Columns are there, and two of them have comments to help identify. LMK any issues / questions / suggestions.

[BigRed75]

Works good. I've put in the files I posted earlier as well as new ones I've found.

Seems like the errors mostly fall in two types - one, where the player is commonly known by their nickname, but the bbref minors ID of course uses their full name, such as Joseph "Joe" Garagiola.

The other category is players such as Forest Gregory Swindell, who of course is more popularly known by his middle name.

The cases where a newer and more accurate file doesn't use the bbref naming convention have been noted accordingly in the notes field.

I'm away this weekend but will be back at it next week.

[FancySkunk]

I'm sorry about this stuff guys. Really and truly. I had every intention of doing more work on this, but motivation has been very hard to find. I have actually been doing facegen work over the last couple days, though. So, I'm finding it again. I really don't want to abandon this project because I feel it's so important for the game experience.

I'm going to commit tonight and tomorrow to working through everything you guys have submitted and brought up in the thread here. Come hell or high water, I'll have an update out by the end of the 16th.

Originally Posted by Makonnen

So, for example, Nolan Ryan is in there as both ryan--001lyn.fg and ryan--001nol.fg. I like mine better than that default, but it's an example of some file bloat in the system.

This is a stopgap solution to an unfortunate issue where some players are using different IDs in the modern and historic databases. So for Ryan, he's listed with the lyn ID on the historic side, but with the nol ID on the modern side. To ensure he has a facegen in all games, he has two files for now.

[FancySkunk]

Originally Posted by BigRed75

Not to throw a wrench in the plans, but I've also found two or three players who have a more recent (and better looking) fg file under their full name instead of their bbref minors id.

I'm not sure what exactly would be the cause of that. It would likely mean it's a facegen I made for Perfect Team 20, when First_Last was the requirement. However, I would typically also save those files with the ID format. Hopefully, it's not too many instances where something fell through.

I'm just about finished looking through the facegens Makonnen has uploaded (about 15 or so left that I'm going to hit up tomorrow). They're not all being implemented as they were, but all the players you submitted will be receiving either new or tweaked/improved facegens.

Then I'll hit up the ID fixes that have been mentioned so far, and see if anything else sticks out for cleanup before pushing an update.

[FancySkunk]

Alright, all the facegens Makonnen sent are implemented, and I've gone through the ID fixes listed in the thread itself.

I started looking at the google sheet. The main thing I noticed off the bat is that some of these files you're tagging as incorrectly named or duplicate are actually there to represent former players who became coaches or managers. For example, with Ken Griffey Sr., "griffe001geo" him as a player, and "Ken_Griffey Sr" is an older version of him as a hitting coach. Because of the way and order the game reads files, he'll always get the ID file as a player, and the First_Last file as a coach.

I'll still look through everything mentioned on the sheet, just wanted to point that out as something to watch out for.

[FancySkunk]

--------------Latest Update Notes--------------

• Continued work on facegen quality updates
• Continued work on incorrect ID fixes

As for what's going on currently, I started looking at some of the oldest facegens in the pack (mostly dated 2014, with one from way back in 2010) and checking for quality as well as doing ID fixes on them when needed to get them working in historical games. The frequency with which I'm running into ID issues at this end of the pack is really worrying, to be honest. The ID issues seem to be excessively widespread. I also just want to echo that if you run into players missing facegens, or particularly rough facegens, feel free to let me know. Even if you don't want to list them individually, something like "Hey, please look at the 1974 Indians" is a solid enough lead on work that needs to be done. Otherwise, I can't make guarantees on when I'll get to particular players.

Edit: Looks like the 2015 dated facegens contain a ton of easily found errors. I'm seeing a lot of guys with names starting with "chu" (Chuck), "dic" (Dick), "mik" (Mike), etc., which are only correct in very rare instances, and the files are all clumped together by first name. I should be able to pick off a bunch of these pretty easily. As always, it's just a matter of dedicating the time to getting it done.

[BigRed75]

Originally Posted by FancySkunk

I'm not sure what exactly would be the cause of that. It would likely mean it's a facegen I made for Perfect Team 20, when First_Last was the requirement. However, I would typically also save those files with the ID format. Hopefully, it's not too many instances where something fell through.

I figured it was probably something like that, given how the players tended to be ones who I knew had a Perfect Team card (and the file date lined up with the PT20 Facegen pack)

[BigRed75]

Originally Posted by FancySkunk

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Edit: Looks like the 2015 dated facegens contain a ton of easily found errors. I'm seeing a lot of guys with names starting with "chu" (Chuck), "dic" (Dick), "mik" (Mike), etc., which are only correct in very rare instances, and the files are all clumped together by first name. I should be able to pick off a bunch of these pretty easily. As always, it's just a matter of dedicating the time to getting it done.

I noticed that a lot, too. In fact, pretty much any player named Mike, Joe or Jim with a pre-2019 facegen is almost guaranteed to be mis-named.

[thepianoman]

Thanks for all of your hard work. I followed the steps for a current league that I am 10 games in. I am the Mets in a solo league of the Greatest Teams throughout their history. Couple of things I'm hoping you can help me with...

-I'm having trouble identifying if it worked. It does seem like some of the players faces changed, but when I started a new game and Lenny Dykstra (for example) came to the plate it was a different photo than the one you created that I viewed before the game started. Edgardo Alfonzo just came up to bat and has a Rolle Fingers type moustache. As does Tom Seaver....etc.

-I also noticed that when you put your mouse over a guys name either when they are in the field or when you are just setting your lineup, the small thumbnail picture of each player is often very different than when they come to bat. Best example is a guy like Mike Piazza. His small pic when, for example, I click on his name in the field is a skinny guy with no facial hair that looks nothing like him...but when he is hitting and the larger photo is up he looks much more like Piazza.

-Aside from clicking on "Check all picture files of all teams and leagues" perhaps I do have other things checked above (top right of screen) that should or should not be or certain drop down options? I will say that when I clicked on Check all picture files of all teams and leagues, it took only 5 seconds....however as I mentioned it seems to have worked for some of the players. hmmmm

-I am very new to the game (less than a week) and I apologize for the long post. I just am having problems recognizing what worked and what did not. Thank you in advance for your help and efforts! If you can kindly help me out I would really appreciate it.

[thepianoman]

Originally Posted by FancySkunk

--------------------Information-------------------

This project seeks to provide a facegen for every single player and staff member in the game - MLB live, MLB historical, MiLB, independent, and foreign. Because of the ambitious nature of the project, it may ultimately never truly be finished; however, at present, it includes over 47,000 facegen files, which is a very significant portion of the player database. It was also this project which helped push OOTP towards the use of historical minors ID for facegen file names. This design decision allows for players with the same name to have easily differentiated facegens.

Much of the work on this project comes thanks to countless facegen creators who have released work over the years. Without that work, this project would likely never have been able to really get off the ground. The project was started by qcbandits who has since abandoned it. I was originally working with him directly and have since picked up where he left off. In the interest of preserving information, his thread can be found here. Be aware that any links there are most likely non-operational, and any that do work will simply be an outdated version of this same project.

------------Commitment to Quality-------------

I want the quality of this pack to be as high across the board as it can be. In an effort to assure this, if you have any issues with a missing or obviously incorrect facegen, or a facegen simply not being up to snuff for any reason, please let me know and I will do my best to address it for the next release.

----------------Work In Progress----------------

• File Clean-Up: There are, by my estimate, around three thousand redundant facegens still in the pack using the old First_Last format. These are files from the Perfect Team 20 pack that are no longer being read by the game in the majority of situations. These files are going to be removed to reduce overall bloat within the pack.
• ID Fixes: Many players have facegen files named with an incorrect ID taken from the modern roster set, which means they do not get facegens in historical leagues (or have an older, outdated First_Last facegen displayed). It will be a long-term project to find these players, report the ID errors, and fix their files in the pack.
• 2021 Draft Class: Many of these players do not yet have facegens. Work needs to be done to create facegens for them.
• General Quality Improvements: As always, I'll be spot-checking here and there and making improvements to existing facegens that need them.

--------------Latest Update Notes--------------

• Continued work on facegen quality updates
• Continued work on incorrect ID fixes

------------------Download Link------------------

Version 1.2 (Released September 16, 2020)

• Google Drive
• MediaFire Mirror

------------Installation Instructions-----------

1. Download and extract the zip file from one of the links above
2. Delete or rename the existing fg_files folder in your OOTP install folder
3. Copy the downloaded fg_files folder into your OOTP install folder

• Newly created leagues will have the facegens load automatically.
• Older leagues will need to have player pictures updated in order for them to display: League Settings -> Players & Facegen -> Check all picture files of all teams and leagues
• Perfect Team facegens will update when you download a new simulation

Thanks for all of your hard work. I followed the steps for a current league that I am 10 games in. I am the Mets in a solo league of the Greatest Teams throughout their history. Some things I'm hoping you can help me with...

-I'm having trouble identifying if it worked. It does seem like some of the players faces changed, but when I started a new game and Lenny Dykstra (for example) came to the plate it was a different photo than the one you created that I viewed before the game started. Edgardo Alfonzo just came up to bat and has a Rolle Fingers type moustache. As does Tom Seaver....etc.

-I also noticed that when you put your mouse over a guys name either when they are in the field or when you are just setting your lineup, the small thumbnail picture of each player is often very different than when they come to bat. Best example is a guy like Mike Piazza. His small pic when, for example, I click on his name in the field is a skinny guy with no facial hair that looks nothing like him...but when he is hitting and the larger photo is up he looks much more like Piazza.

-Aside from clicking on "Check all picture files of all teams and leagues" perhaps I do have other things checked above (top right of screen) that should or should not be or certain drop down options? I will say that when I clicked on Check all picture files of all teams and leagues, it took only 5 seconds....however as I mentioned it seems to have worked for some of the players. hmmmm

-If I am already 12 games into a season of Greatest Teams ever and wanted to add players like Alonzo, DeGrom, Gary Carter, Beltran, Cespedes to this team can I do that once I have already started a season? I assume I can but I literally have no idea where to go in the game and how to do it. Please let me know. Thanks!!

-I am very new to the game (less than a week) and I apologize for the long post. I just am having problems recognizing what worked and what did not. Thank you in advance for your help and efforts! If you can kindly help me out I would really appreciate it.

[Makonnen]

Hey there!

Unfortunately, I don't have solid answers to a lot of this, but perhaps others can as well.

* You should request a full reload of player images. LEAGUE >>> League Settings >>> Players & Facegen >>> either UPDATE or FORCE UPDATE (force update does it immediately, update does it "as soon as needed).

* Mustaches are added after pictures are loaded, I believe. The WBL has all the old-timey mustaches available, so occasionally modern players show up with oddball facial hair. Can't decide if I like that or not.

* The in-game picture and the profile picture are separate (or, perhaps, there is an in-game in both home and visiting uni, and the profile pic is the home one, I'm not sure). The above should regenerate both.

* I don't know what you're referring to here.

* Yes you can. It is tricky, so you should start a new league and practice a little before adding it to the "real thing." The key thing is you have to pick what year you want to add. Then go to you free agent list, and choose ACTIONS ... IMPORT HISTORICAL PLAYER ... You'll select your historical database, and then enter the playerID and year you want. The player ID is the LahmanID; if that doesn't make sense, it's the ID from baseball reference. So Gary Carter's page is https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...artega01.shtml, making his ID cartega01. That will add them to the FA pool, and you can either edit them onto the team you want or draft them in the next draft.

Whew. That's a lot. Ask questions, or search the forum, there is a lot of info about this out there.

That last question belongs in other threads, though--this one is all about the facegen pack.

Hope this helps!