OOTP 17 Update #10, Version 17.11.72 Available! - Page 3

Andy · 09-27-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Okay, dug in deeper, and looks like the tweak to fix the online league issue caused certain players acquired in trade to get missed when the AI puts together their roster in the off-season. We'll work to get a patch out for this over the next day or two. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thank you!

adamj · 09-27-2016, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Okay, dug in deeper, and looks like the tweak to fix the online league issue caused certain players acquired in trade to get missed when the AI puts together their roster in the off-season. We'll work to get a patch out for this over the next day or two. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Please take a look at this thread. Someone just posted a screenshot of a player getting released repeatedly, 10 days after signing an FA contract. The dates would indicate this is happening during the regular season, not just in the off-season.
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post4095466

adamj · 09-27-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Okay, dug in deeper, and looks like the tweak to fix the online league issue caused certain players acquired in trade to get missed when the AI puts together their roster in the off-season. We'll work to get a patch out for this over the next day or two. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Just going through all my leagues now, and I've also found some examples of players being claimed off waivers, then released by their new team 10 days later.

NoOne · 09-27-2016, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by davidwright77

I've done the update, twice now, and am still being told that I cannot load my one and only league because a "world.dat" file is missing. (1) No idea what purpose that file serves... (2) The game was working fine before I attempted the update... (3) Unless I can fix this, somehow, I'll have lost 3/4 of a season, and have to start back from scratch, which is thoroughly unappealing.

Any information or advice that can be provided is much appreciated.

it wouldn't touch a saved game directory.

i'd look into whether it change locations on you. check custom folders in settings. (also an ini file in game's root)

BaseballLife322 · 09-27-2016, 08:41 PM

Is the players being release after trades, happening to everyone?

endgame · 09-27-2016, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballLife322

Is the players being release after trades, happening to everyone?

Are you talking about all of his teams and leagues or everyone here? If it's the latter, no.

adamj · 09-27-2016, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballLife322

Is the players being release after trades, happening to everyone?

I, for one, am seeing this in all my leagues, which includes Standard MLB, historical, and fictional. And to make sure it is not something in my settings, I just started a new Standard MLB league, without changing a single setting, simmed ahead a bit, and the issue is there.

hluraven · 09-28-2016, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by adamj

Please take a look at this thread. Someone just posted a screenshot of a player getting released repeatedly, 10 days after signing an FA contract. The dates would indicate this is happening during the regular season, not just in the off-season.
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post4095466

I've had that one in all updates, not just the latest update. The release after trade thing is definitely new though.

larrikin · 09-28-2016, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

There haven't been any changes made to AI roster/trade/release logic in either this build or the last couple before this. We can certainly have a look, but it seems to be more isolated cases.

Unless if you can clarify more - is it every team and every player that it's happening to? Anything specific in your league setup? Anything set on the AI teams that could explain it? Anything specific to the released players? Basically would need something to look into more in these cases, since nothing in the AI logic should have changed.

I've noticed it a few times since the last patch.

It happened twice to Difo, but the second time I put him back on San Francisco because I noticed him on waivers before I advanced in the game.

It also just happened to Sanchez, who is currently on waivers after having been traded.

Also, I noticed that Toronto assigned Jake Lamb (4.5 stars) to AAA after I traded him to them when their best option otherwise is Yunel Escobar (1 star).

larrikin · 09-28-2016, 09:31 PM

I am having the issue with players being released following trades also. I tried posting some examples yesterday but it seems to have been moderated out of existence.

Sweed · 09-28-2016, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by larrikin

I am having the issue with players being released following trades also. I tried posting some examples yesterday but it seems to have been moderated out of existence.

Post #40 in this thread....

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Okay, dug in deeper, and looks like the tweak to fix the online league issue caused certain players acquired in trade to get missed when the AI puts together their roster in the off-season. We'll work to get a patch out for this over the next day or two. Sorry for the inconvenience.

MKG1734 · 09-29-2016, 12:23 AM

Sincerely ...

Just look at this thread. And the one for the 'update' before it. And the one before that.

Markus. Matt.

You are in the process of killing the game.

Just, please, stop adding new features this winter. The current features that must work for the game to be fun and playable - don't.

Rewrite the entire engine if you have to. The roster logic / the in-game AI strategy logic / trade logic / free agent logic ... it ALL needs substantial work.

Look at the people in this thread who aren't going to pre-order. That was me this year -- after purchasing it for several consecutive years -- I didnt even buy after noticing all the buggy updates. This will continue with even more people.

And even worse, all NEW buyers - who aren't already loyal like so many have been - will not come back to a game that doesn't work well.

Please, do not even add one new feature this winter. Rewrite the engine and fix all this nonsense. Start from a stable and strong base.

I really want to play the game, again. So do so many people.

Think of the new people, as well. They won't come back like the loyalists if they buy the game for the first time and its a train wreck like this years has been.

A simpler game that works is better than a fancy game that doesn't work.

Orcin · 09-29-2016, 01:16 AM

Found another bug, but I don't know when this one started. Poking around a little makes me believe it has been in there for a few updates.

Historical league with "retire according to history" disabled: Players that retire in the league before their actual retirement date are returned to active duty the next season. I have rookies going to their historical teams and these unretired players are placed on the roster of the team that they played for that year. In other cases, they might be imported as free agents or added to the draft class, but I can't test that in my league.

BaseballLife322 · 09-29-2016, 03:14 AM

I can see why people would prefer them fixing everything instead of adding new features, and I'm not sure off the top of my head, but what major new features did they add to this version? I think most of the major features were added last year or the year before.. and last years game worked almost perfectly

I'm not sure what the solution is, who knows, maybe they'll add major features next year and the game will work perfectly. I wish i had the answers.

BusterKing · 09-29-2016, 07:38 AM

What angers me the most is the fact that Steam players are FORCED to patch their game in order to play. Please make this an option since now it seems like every second patch is broken then is screws up our game.

Klaus 74 · 09-29-2016, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterKing

What angers me the most is the fact that Steam players are FORCED to patch their game in order to play. Please make this an option since now it seems like every second patch is broken then is screws up our game.

Mine just got updated to Version 17.11.73 but the release notes were not included as of yet.

ArcAngel · 09-29-2016, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Klaus 74

Mine just got updated to Version 17.11.73 but the release notes were not included as of yet.

So Steam users get the update before non-Steam users?

tward13 · 09-29-2016, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MKG1734

Sincerely ...

Just look at this thread. And the one for the 'update' before it. And the one before that.

Markus. Matt.

You are in the process of killing the game.

Just, please, stop adding new features this winter. The current features that must work for the game to be fun and playable - don't.

Rewrite the entire engine if you have to. The roster logic / the in-game AI strategy logic / trade logic / free agent logic ... it ALL needs substantial work.

Look at the people in this thread who aren't going to pre-order. That was me this year -- after purchasing it for several consecutive years -- I didnt even buy after noticing all the buggy updates. This will continue with even more people.

And even worse, all NEW buyers - who aren't already loyal like so many have been - will not come back to a game that doesn't work well.

Please, do not even add one new feature this winter. Rewrite the engine and fix all this nonsense. Start from a stable and strong base.

I really want to play the game, again. So do so many people.

Think of the new people, as well. They won't come back like the loyalists if they buy the game for the first time and its a train wreck like this years has been.

A simpler game that works is better than a fancy game that doesn't work.

I'm still annoyed that after all these years I still can't set two line-ups/pitchers for doubleheader in the 7 day screen. Real pain in the ass for on line leagues.

Oh yeah, who cares about online players

Markus Heinsohn · 09-29-2016, 09:56 AM

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...available.html

T.J. Lauerman · 09-29-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kobeck

onward for my Braves 2020 challenge

I personally dont think it can be done. And almost certainly not by me

lol

I too have failed miserably at this.

09-29-2016, 12:23 AM	#52
MKG1734 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 256	Sincerely ... Just look at this thread. And the one for the 'update' before it. And the one before that. Markus. Matt. You are in the process of killing the game. Just, please, stop adding new features this winter. The current features that must work for the game to be fun and playable - don't. Rewrite the entire engine if you have to. The roster logic / the in-game AI strategy logic / trade logic / free agent logic ... it ALL needs substantial work. Look at the people in this thread who aren't going to pre-order. That was me this year -- after purchasing it for several consecutive years -- I didnt even buy after noticing all the buggy updates. This will continue with even more people. And even worse, all NEW buyers - who aren't already loyal like so many have been - will not come back to a game that doesn't work well. Please, do not even add one new feature this winter. Rewrite the engine and fix all this nonsense. Start from a stable and strong base. I really want to play the game, again. So do so many people. Think of the new people, as well. They won't come back like the loyalists if they buy the game for the first time and its a train wreck like this years has been. A simpler game that works is better than a fancy game that doesn't work. Last edited by MKG1734; 09-29-2016 at 12:36 AM.

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09-27-2016, 08:41 PM	#45
BaseballLife322 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 199	Is the players being release after trades, happening to everyone?

09-28-2016, 09:31 PM	#50
larrikin Bat Boy Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 2	I am having the issue with players being released following trades also. I tried posting some examples yesterday but it seems to have been moderated out of existence.

09-29-2016, 01:16 AM	#53
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,853	Found another bug, but I don't know when this one started. Poking around a little makes me believe it has been in there for a few updates. Historical league with "retire according to history" disabled: Players that retire in the league before their actual retirement date are returned to active duty the next season. I have rookies going to their historical teams and these unretired players are placed on the roster of the team that they played for that year. In other cases, they might be imported as free agents or added to the draft class, but I can't test that in my league.

09-29-2016, 03:14 AM	#54
BaseballLife322 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 199	I can see why people would prefer them fixing everything instead of adding new features, and I'm not sure off the top of my head, but what major new features did they add to this version? I think most of the major features were added last year or the year before.. and last years game worked almost perfectly I'm not sure what the solution is, who knows, maybe they'll add major features next year and the game will work perfectly. I wish i had the answers.

09-29-2016, 07:38 AM	#55
BusterKing Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,422	What angers me the most is the fact that Steam players are FORCED to patch their game in order to play. Please make this an option since now it seems like every second patch is broken then is screws up our game.