Kobe Bryan is better than Michael Jordan - Page 3

darkhorse · 02-26-2003, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by jmaness84
Id have to agree with you, he is kind of like the Babe Ruth of basketball. He dominated the game like Ruth did. However if he played today he wouldnt have nearly the amount of success that he did in his career. Same goes w/ Ruth.

Considering the pathetic state at the center position in the NBA, who is to say he wouldn't have more success. I great center, in Shaq, a couple of good ones and then power forwards and bums filling out the center position in the league. In the Stilt's time the level of talent at center was higher because the league was smaller.

vtbub · 02-26-2003, 02:38 PM

Russell was better than Wilt.

80'S hoops is better than today's.

Jeter the leader is not overrated.

I don't think you can compare Kobe and MJ. The game has changed too much to make a valid comparision. The 80's game was team oriented and today is glorified one on one. I think Kobe would have been a good 80's player.

darkhorse · 02-26-2003, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by vtbub
Russell was better than Wilt.

His teams were better. Wilt was far superior.

scoobz0202 · 02-26-2003, 03:15 PM

Another player that was great was the Big O.

vtbub · 02-26-2003, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by darkhorse
His teams were better. Wilt was far superior.

A superior scorer, not a superior shotblocker, free throw shooter, rebounder, champion and team leader. Chamberlain was a tour de force scoring. Russell had better teams. Russell was a better overall player by far than Wilt.

darkhorse · 02-26-2003, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by vtbub
A superior scorer, not a superior shotblocker, free throw shooter, rebounder, champion and team leader. Chamberlain was a tour de force scoring. Russell had better teams. Russell was a better overall player by far than Wilt.

Bah, Russell was only superior as a defender, Chamberlain was better in every other category and as a scorer by a vast margin. Wilt is the best basketball player to play the game regardless of position as the NBA record book will attest.

vtbub · 02-26-2003, 03:47 PM

Whatever, personally I'd take the Big O, Magic, Bird, MJ, Clyde, Russell anyday.

You are entitled to your wrong opinion.

Jon277 · 02-26-2003, 04:01 PM

Bill Walton is the biggest tool ever!

darkhorse · 02-26-2003, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by vtbub
You are entitled to your wrong opinion.

If it were merely an opinion, then I'd be wrong.

vtbub · 02-26-2003, 05:08 PM

I can't answer such great logic.

You grow up near Philly?

darkhorse · 02-26-2003, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by vtbub
I can't answer such great logic.

You grow up near Philly?

Nein. I can flip through the NBA record though.

jmaness84 · 02-26-2003, 06:00 PM

You didnt have as many 7 footers when Wilt played as you do now

darkhorse · 02-26-2003, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by jmaness84
You didnt have as many 7 footers when Wilt played as you do now

The quality of play at center was better when Wilt played.

jmaness84 · 02-26-2003, 06:05 PM

still the height does matter.. he wouldnt get nearly the amount of rebounds and points if he played today..

darkhorse · 02-26-2003, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by jmaness84
still the height does matter.. he wouldnt get nearly the amount of rebounds and points if he played today..

As Chamberlain was 7'1, it would make little difference. Talent is far more important.

Edit: the finest rebounder of the last 20 years is Dennis Rodman at 6'8.

jmaness84 · 02-26-2003, 06:33 PM

You really think Wilt would score 100 points in todays NBA?

darkhorse · 02-26-2003, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by jmaness84
You really think Wilt would score 100 points in todays NBA?

He did it once and could certainly do it once today.

vtbub · 02-26-2003, 07:05 PM

I agree with you Darkhorse.

Gastric ReFlux · 02-26-2003, 08:35 PM

Plus Wilt is the all-time stud regarding reproductive efforts.

twins15 · 02-26-2003, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by jmaness84
still the height does matter.. he wouldnt get nearly the amount of rebounds and points if he played today..

What about Shawn Bradley, Ghorge Muresan? They were very tall, but they pretty much suck(ed).

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vtbub Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 143	Russell was better than Wilt. 80'S hoops is better than today's. Jeter the leader is not overrated. I don't think you can compare Kobe and MJ. The game has changed too much to make a valid comparision. The 80's game was team oriented and today is glorified one on one. I think Kobe would have been a good 80's player.

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scoobz0202 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Celina, Ohio Posts: 969	Another player that was great was the Big O.

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vtbub Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 143	Whatever, personally I'd take the Big O, Magic, Bird, MJ, Clyde, Russell anyday. You are entitled to your wrong opinion.

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vtbub Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 143	I can't answer such great logic. You grow up near Philly?

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jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	You didnt have as many 7 footers when Wilt played as you do now

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jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	still the height does matter.. he wouldnt get nearly the amount of rebounds and points if he played today..

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jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	You really think Wilt would score 100 points in todays NBA?

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vtbub Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 143	I agree with you Darkhorse.

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Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Plus Wilt is the all-time stud regarding reproductive efforts.