06/08 Update: New injury-related features in OOTP 12 - Page 3

james17 · 06-08-2011, 06:48 PM

What if you're playing without minor leagues and just using a Reserve Roster?
How would that affect rehab assignments and elimination of rust?

RandyTiger · 06-08-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by james17

What if you're playing without minor leagues and just using a Reserve Roster?
How would that affect rehab assignments and elimination of rust?

I'd like to know this as well.

robc · 06-08-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jar2574

My recollection is that someone did point out that problem but it was fixed either in OOTP 11 or a patch to OOTP 11. I am pretty sure that pitchers are now much more likely to suffer long-term injuries.

That would be good (not for the pitchers though)

Qwerty75 · 06-08-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyTiger

I'd like to know this as well.

My guess is that it's unchanged from previously. Players have previously had rust coming back from injuries that they need to work off, whether in the minors or majors. I don't think "rust" affects the development of younger players demoted to the reserve roster after playing games on the parent team.

Le Grande Orange · 06-08-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by james17

What if you're playing without minor leagues and just using a Reserve Roster?
How would that affect rehab assignments and elimination of rust?

I'm guessing rehab assignments won't be available in such leagues.

thbroman · 06-08-2011, 07:31 PM

I do have one small concern. 30 days sounds like a long time to have a pitcher tossing pitches in the minors, unless the injury was pretty serious (a couple of months, at least?)

Is there any way to pro-rate the time needed for the severity of the injury?

james17 · 06-08-2011, 07:44 PM

Regarding Reserve Rosters and rehab assignments and rust---sounds like we need an official clarification.

gord · 06-08-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thbroman

I do have one small concern. 30 days sounds like a long time to have a pitcher tossing pitches in the minors, unless the injury was pretty serious (a couple of months, at least?)

Is there any way to pro-rate the time needed for the severity of the injury?

Markus said "Position players may stay 20 days in the minors and pitchers 30 days." I read that as the rehab stint can be up to 20/30 days, but not the full amount.

Markus Heinsohn · 06-09-2011, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by james17

What if you're playing without minor leagues and just using a Reserve Roster?
How would that affect rehab assignments and elimination of rust?

Well, since the reserve roster does not play any games, the rust has to be removed by playing him in the majors. Rehabs are only available if a team has minor league affiliates.

Rhadamantis82 · 06-09-2011, 04:59 AM

Great job Markus! That's the most important feature in my opinion, i really love that!! Thanks a lot!!

RandyTiger · 06-09-2011, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, since the reserve roster does not play any games, the rust has to be removed by playing him in the majors. Rehabs are only available if a team has minor league affiliates.

*groans*

Alright, thanks.

thbroman · 06-09-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gord

Markus said "Position players may stay 20 days in the minors and pitchers 30 days." I read that as the rehab stint can be up to 20/30 days, but not the full amount.

I guess what prompted my question is wondering how we might know whether a player needs to spend the full rehab assignment in the minors. IRL a coach or manager would know whether the player has regained most of his abilities to a pretty high level of accuracy.

tigey75 · 06-09-2011, 09:21 AM

Does this mean that you can send a player to rehab IF he's not ready to come back after the DL time expires? Or does it mean you have the option to send a player for rehab even if he IS ready to play after the DL time expires?

neugey · 06-09-2011, 11:04 AM

Thanks for incorporating these new features!!! I will probably be buying OOTP 12 before the summer is out.

I also wonder if the AI managers will have the know-how to utilize the retroactive DL assignments and rehab assignments. If not, it would be great to have this added in a future patch or version.

Bluenoser · 06-09-2011, 11:11 AM

This concern was raised in an online league I'm in.

Will rehab/minors time be customizable same as DL time. ie can we set it to 14 days, 7 days, 21 days or whatever up to the max allowed?

If we have 7 day sims, you'll have to move the player off of his assignment after 2 sims (day 14), since it'll be up by the time the third sim ends. Ideally we would be able to set the rehab max time to be 21 days, for instance, so we can give the player 3 sims.

This could become a nightmare for the Commish/simmer. For DFA guys, usually you can move them to AAA (since they've cleared waivers) or release them (cuz they suck). However, if a rehab guy's time expires and a GM forgets to move him back up, usually this is someone good and needs to be placed on the active roster. I don't think the Commish/simmer wants to get in the habit of playing assistant GM. Just something to consider.

Cap · 06-09-2011, 12:18 PM

Wow! As a long-time player of OOTP's Title Bout Boxing, I can only shake my head and say, "You guys are soooooo lucky!"

Cap

AllDay23 · 06-09-2011, 01:23 PM

June 20th cant wait ill finally be in the game after being called up dats the **** will it come out for ipod touch that day 2 someone answer this please?

james17 · 06-09-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyTiger

*groans*

Alright, thanks.

Same here. But thanks Markus for answering.

Dark Horse · 06-09-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by james17

What if you're playing without minor leagues and just using a Reserve Roster?
How would that affect rehab assignments and elimination of rust?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, since the reserve roster does not play any games, the rust has to be removed by playing him in the majors. Rehabs are only available if a team has minor league affiliates.

This is bad.

Its not as if players on reserve rosters would be sitting around and doing nothing. How would you explain players on reserve rosters improving their ratings?

Besides that, most of the time rehab assignments are not used for players being rusty, but to make sure that the player won't immediately re-injure himself by playing. A lot of times the doctors can't tell the team/players that by examining them.

If this is one of the optional things, i guess it really isn't that bad. But if not...

GlennN · 06-09-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse

This is bad.

Its not as if players on reserve rosters would be sitting around and doing nothing. How would you explain players on reserve rosters improving their ratings?

Besides that, most of the time rehab assignments are not used for players being rusty, but to make sure that the player won't immediately re-injure himself by playing. A lot of times the doctors can't tell the team/players that by examining them.

If this is one of the optional things, i guess it really isn't that bad. But if not...

I agree with you completely. I play with minors off, so I would rather turn this feature off than have it impact me negatively.

06-09-2011, 11:11 AM	#55
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,521	This concern was raised in an online league I'm in. Will rehab/minors time be customizable same as DL time. ie can we set it to 14 days, 7 days, 21 days or whatever up to the max allowed? If we have 7 day sims, you'll have to move the player off of his assignment after 2 sims (day 14), since it'll be up by the time the third sim ends. Ideally we would be able to set the rehab max time to be 21 days, for instance, so we can give the player 3 sims. This could become a nightmare for the Commish/simmer. For DFA guys, usually you can move them to AAA (since they've cleared waivers) or release them (cuz they suck). However, if a rehab guy's time expires and a GM forgets to move him back up, usually this is someone good and needs to be placed on the active roster. I don't think the Commish/simmer wants to get in the habit of playing assistant GM. Just something to consider. Last edited by Bluenoser; 06-09-2011 at 12:45 PM.

06-09-2011, 12:18 PM	#56
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,063	Wow! As a long-time player of OOTP's Title Bout Boxing, I can only shake my head and say, "You guys are soooooo lucky!" Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

06-09-2011, 01:23 PM	#57
AllDay23 Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NY Posts: 1	Great June 20th cant wait ill finally be in the game after being called up dats the **** will it come out for ipod touch that day 2 someone answer this please?

06-08-2011, 06:48 PM	#41
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,305	What if you're playing without minor leagues and just using a Reserve Roster? How would that affect rehab assignments and elimination of rust?

06-08-2011, 07:31 PM	#46
thbroman All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 867	I do have one small concern. 30 days sounds like a long time to have a pitcher tossing pitches in the minors, unless the injury was pretty serious (a couple of months, at least?) Is there any way to pro-rate the time needed for the severity of the injury?

06-08-2011, 07:44 PM	#47
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,305	Regarding Reserve Rosters and rehab assignments and rust---sounds like we need an official clarification.

06-09-2011, 04:59 AM	#50
Rhadamantis82 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 48	Great job Markus! That's the most important feature in my opinion, i really love that!! Thanks a lot!!

06-09-2011, 09:21 AM	#53
tigey75 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 308	Does this mean that you can send a player to rehab IF he's not ready to come back after the DL time expires? Or does it mean you have the option to send a player for rehab even if he IS ready to play after the DL time expires?

06-09-2011, 11:04 AM	#54
neugey All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 807	Thanks for incorporating these new features!!! I will probably be buying OOTP 12 before the summer is out. I also wonder if the AI managers will have the know-how to utilize the retroactive DL assignments and rehab assignments. If not, it would be great to have this added in a future patch or version.