Boxers who should be added to the database. - Page 3

bear · 12-20-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Go to the fighter's Statistics tab.

Click the little arrow next to the word 'Record' at the top left corner.

There will be a series of boxes for wins, losses, draws, NC, KOs, et cetera where you can enter whatever record you like.

I didn't know this.

JCWeb · 12-20-2008, 10:48 PM

... actually learned about it from the recently departed (banned) MH -- this was the fix around one of the major bugs in 2.0.27 that started newly-imported fighters at different PP levels (0 for some, 1000 for others, when the default for all was supposed to be 200), which could really screw up your rankings for those that care about such things. I find I use this feature repeatedly when adding new fighters to my Uni, as I have to give them a fake win before the computer accepts the starting PP level of 200.

Cap · 12-21-2008, 12:01 AM

and all this time I thought they should start with zero perf points......

Cap

bear · 12-21-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AZZA

hI I HAVE GOT GERVER a SOLID 6
AND ANGULO IS A 7
DO YOU WANT ME TO POST?
MEAD I AM INTERESTED HOW DO YOU START A FIGHTER 12-0 IN YOUR UNIVERSE?

I HAVE GOT LOADS OF NEW FIGHTERS ADONIS STEVENSON DEONTAY WILDER BREDIS PRESCOTT ETC SHOULD I PUT 20 OR SO IN A ZIP AND POST?

AZZA
Wht don't you start a thread in mods and post your guys there.

bear

hamed2 · 12-21-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bear

I didn't know this.

Glad to see I'm not alone there. It's a great feature & I've been inputing records of fighters I've been keeping since '98.

meade95 · 12-21-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by meade95

Here is what I have (to date) for Strawweight R. Gonzalez - I have 8 of his fights on tape - Had thought he would be a champion for 2 years now - He was much wilder (less accurate) in general.... but in last 3 fights has shown much better accuracy and willingness to put smarter punches together.....

Of course his "recovery" and "chin" to some extent is still very subjective in what these attributes should be rated....

Spent some time today watching a group of fights.....two of Gonzalez's most recent were among them. In doing so I have retweaked his ratings... to have his counter punching tweaked up to 37...and his punches missed down to 60 (as he is throwing much tigher shots from better balance and is not as easy to counter from those missed shots). We may see his landing numbers tweaked up from 39 to 40 within a year.... (also tweaked his fighting outside up to a 2, it should have been there from the begining).

Tosti · 12-22-2008, 10:02 AM

Three from way back that should be in the database

Eddie McGoorty (11292)
Willie Fitzgerald (11019)
Dave Holly (11016)

lethal liberal · 12-27-2008, 05:11 AM

Would love to see "Juanma" Juan Lopez..the guy looks like a beast and is going through contenders like they are club fighters.

Mad Bomber · 01-01-2009, 12:11 PM

Perhaps a rating for Hector Camacho as a Lightweight.

a87star · 01-01-2009, 01:32 PM

I have two interesting requests for fighters most people have not heard of:

Saddam Kietyongyuth from Thailand who is 17-0 with 13 KO's. He seems to be a star on the rise and could be force at LW in the near future. He has beaten two experienced fighters in Jimrex Jaca and Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov in covincing fashion recently.

Beibut Shumenov is a LHW prospect who has been on meteoric rise since his pro debut in late 2007. In his first seven fights, he has faced veterans Shannon Miller, Donnell Wiggins, Lavell Finger, Montell Griffin, and Epifanio Mendoza. It looks like he will be challenging for a world title at some point in '09.

Ric915 · 01-01-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tosti

Three from way back that should be in the database

Eddie McGoorty (11292)
Willie Fitzgerald (11019)
Dave Holly (11016)

I requested Dave Holly over at MH's site along with George Decker and he had files for them I'll post the link since i'm at work and can't get to the actual file

mh2365fansite.com • View topic - George Decker and Dave Holly

bear · 01-01-2009, 04:12 PM

I have two files for Dave Holly in my db. I don't know who created them orginally.

Dave Holly LW either 10

bear · 01-01-2009, 04:14 PM

I also have Dave Holly LW either 11

Jersey-Jim · 01-01-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lethal liberal

Would love to see "Juanma" Juan Lopez..the guy looks like a beast and is going through contenders like they are club fighters.

Juan Lopez reminds of Wilfredo Gomez. It's amazing how little Puerto Rico churns out so many good fighters decade after decade. Lopez's worst enemy at this point is probably over-confidence. As long as he doesn't let that happen, he'll be able to run off a whole lot of wins.

I just inserted him into my universe yesterday at #10 ranked with a record of 14-0 (14 KO's).

Sometimes I start fighters off from their first fight... other times, they hit the ground running in their primes!

hamed2 · 01-01-2009, 08:57 PM

^ Jim, how did you decide on 14-0? I've been able to update records of the fighters I've been fighting since the late 90's in TB now. With Lopez I finally have a serious contender for my WBO champ (Zaragoza) who's 18-3 & made 13 title defenses.

meade95 · 01-01-2009, 09:32 PM

I have a "beta-version" of Saddam Kietyongyuth on my game - However, he is somewhat to green / unknown yet for me to fully release him into my UNI ...Just yet. I've seen 4 of his fights on tape. He definitley has talent. But there are still unknowns with him, his chin, punching accurrecy (Vs quality).......absorb punhishment,.....I'm just not sure enough on these yet...

a87star · 01-01-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by meade95

I have a "beta-version" of Saddam Kietyongyuth on my game - However, he is somewhat to green / unknown yet for me to fully release him into my UNI ...Just yet. I've seen 4 of his fights on tape. He definitley has talent. But there are still unknowns with him, his chin, punching accurrecy (Vs quality).......absorb punhishment,.....I'm just not sure enough on these yet...

Scott Mallon said the one weakness he saw was defense but Kietyongyuth took some clean shots from Yeshmagambetov and responded well. At least he has a promoter willing to put him in against tough fighters which is uncommon in Thailand, Indonesia, and the Phillipines.

shane6969 · 01-02-2009, 12:14 AM

I would like to see Aussie and Victorian BW champ from the 1910's Jack Janesse added. Good boxer who was born and bred in Bendigo (not born in Melbourne as stated by boxrec).

shane6969 · 01-02-2009, 12:22 AM

Aussie HW from the 1990's Vince Cervi would also be a valuable addition.

Tosti · 01-04-2009, 08:17 AM

Lightweight Billy Willis would be a good addition.

Willis fought 163 times according to Boxrec.

Billy Willis

12-20-2008, 10:48 PM	#42
JCWeb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,085	Bear, I did know this ... ... actually learned about it from the recently departed (banned) MH -- this was the fix around one of the major bugs in 2.0.27 that started newly-imported fighters at different PP levels (0 for some, 1000 for others, when the default for all was supposed to be 200), which could really screw up your rankings for those that care about such things. I find I use this feature repeatedly when adding new fighters to my Uni, as I have to give them a fake win before the computer accepts the starting PP level of 200.

12-21-2008, 12:01 AM	#43
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 7,960	and all this time I thought they should start with zero perf points...... Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

12-22-2008, 10:02 AM	#47
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Old timers Three from way back that should be in the database Eddie McGoorty (11292) Willie Fitzgerald (11019) Dave Holly (11016)

12-27-2008, 05:11 AM	#48
lethal liberal All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Logan,WV Posts: 1,145	Would love to see "Juanma" Juan Lopez..the guy looks like a beast and is going through contenders like they are club fighters. __________________ Member of UTBA Coach of Left Jab Inc (You have to be great to be consistently mediocre) Title Bout devotee since 79 The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have little. FDR

01-01-2009, 12:11 PM	#49
Mad Bomber All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,566	Perhaps a rating for Hector Camacho as a Lightweight. __________________ Keep on Punchin' There are three things that go on a fighter, first your reflexes go, then your chin goes, and then your friends go. Willie Pep

01-01-2009, 01:32 PM	#50
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	I have two interesting requests for fighters most people have not heard of: Saddam Kietyongyuth from Thailand who is 17-0 with 13 KO's. He seems to be a star on the rise and could be force at LW in the near future. He has beaten two experienced fighters in Jimrex Jaca and Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov in covincing fashion recently. Beibut Shumenov is a LHW prospect who has been on meteoric rise since his pro debut in late 2007. In his first seven fights, he has faced veterans Shannon Miller, Donnell Wiggins, Lavell Finger, Montell Griffin, and Epifanio Mendoza. It looks like he will be challenging for a world title at some point in '09. __________________ Women Boxing Archive Network Womens International Boxing Association

01-01-2009, 08:57 PM	#55
hamed2 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,220	^ Jim, how did you decide on 14-0? I've been able to update records of the fighters I've been fighting since the late 90's in TB now. With Lopez I finally have a serious contender for my WBO champ (Zaragoza) who's 18-3 & made 13 title defenses. Last edited by hamed2; 01-01-2009 at 08:59 PM.

01-01-2009, 09:32 PM	#56
meade95 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,095	I have a "beta-version" of Saddam Kietyongyuth on my game - However, he is somewhat to green / unknown yet for me to fully release him into my UNI ...Just yet. I've seen 4 of his fights on tape. He definitley has talent. But there are still unknowns with him, his chin, punching accurrecy (Vs quality).......absorb punhishment,.....I'm just not sure enough on these yet... Last edited by meade95; 01-01-2009 at 10:10 PM.

01-02-2009, 12:14 AM	#58
shane6969 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bendigo, Australia Posts: 1,013	I would like to see Aussie and Victorian BW champ from the 1910's Jack Janesse added. Good boxer who was born and bred in Bendigo (not born in Melbourne as stated by boxrec). __________________ Hatred is an acid that corrodes the soul

01-02-2009, 12:22 AM	#59
shane6969 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bendigo, Australia Posts: 1,013	Aussie HW from the 1990's Vince Cervi would also be a valuable addition. __________________ Hatred is an acid that corrodes the soul

01-04-2009, 08:17 AM	#60
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Billy Willis (12290) Lightweight Billy Willis would be a good addition. Willis fought 163 times according to Boxrec. Billy Willis