Mitchell Investigation To Release Findings Tomorrow - Page 3

RBLwebguy · 12-13-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

To ease that, add David Ortiz then!

Manny and Ortiz are just fat

Jason · 12-13-2007, 02:28 PM

I'm a little shocked by some of the names but I can't say I'm surprised it's so rampant.

Moriarty9 · 12-13-2007, 02:33 PM

Names in the Mitchell Report (*former/current Red Sox players)

Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo*
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Roger Clemens*
Andy Pettitte
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Gregg Zaun
David Justice
F.P. Santangelo
Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn*
Denny Neagle
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels*
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing*
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker*
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada
Jason Christiansen
Mike Stanton*
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagne*
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett Jr.
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly*
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
Howie Clark
Nook Logan
Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Paul Byrd
Jose Canseco*
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Darren Holmes
Gary Matthews Jr.
John Rocker
Scott Schoeneweis
Ismael Valdez
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard
Gary Sheffield
Manny Alexander*
Paxton Crawford*
Benito Santiago
Jeremy Giambi*
Jason Giambi
Bobby Estalella
Barry Bonds
Marvin Benard
Armando Rios
Juan Gonzalez
Ricky Bones
Alex Cabrera
Rafael Palmeiro
Ken Caminiti
Randy Velarde

I may have missed some, will note if I come across them.

Rasmuth · 12-13-2007, 02:34 PM

No Piazza....I didn't want him to be...but I gotta admit...I'm a little surprised.

Elendil · 12-13-2007, 02:38 PM

No Bagwell? (hoping)

Jonzard · 12-13-2007, 02:42 PM

Nor Pujols. GJ WNBC!

Jason · 12-13-2007, 02:50 PM

The thing to remember is that a lot of folks didn't cooperate with the investigation so there are more than just those on that list.

PlayTheKids · 12-13-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasmuth

No Piazza....I didn't want him to be...but I gotta admit...I'm a little surprised.

Why? The guy was pretty much the same size and build his whole career, and was never hugely muscular. Why the suspicion?

Big Hugg · 12-13-2007, 02:58 PM

Brian Roberts makes the report because Larry Bigbie said he told him he took steroids.

This report is stupid.

Rasmuth · 12-13-2007, 02:59 PM

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Why? The guy was pretty much the same size and build his whole career, and was never hugely muscular. Why the suspicion?

First of all...I'm a big Piazza fan...and true he was never hugely muscular...but I remember seeing something about reporters seeing Creatine...or whatever that stuff was...in his locker...so sometimes you figure one thing leads to another.

Plus...his opposite field home-run power was at times not human...so sometimes I would silently wonder.

Mr.Opinion · 12-13-2007, 03:05 PM

I'm just relieved that the Big Hurt is not on the list.

rem · 12-13-2007, 03:06 PM

Lot of Orioles on that list.

BaseballMan · 12-13-2007, 03:08 PM

No ken griffey jr ?
Except for the head size he got pretty big too.

Big Hugg · 12-13-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

Lot of Orioles on that list.

Yeah, basically whoever Larry Bigbie felt like accusing.

DCG12 · 12-13-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Hugg

Brian Roberts makes the report because Larry Bigbie said he told him he took steroids.

This report is stupid.

Why is it stupid. The report lays out in detail why the players listed are there. Some have more evidence then others. If you choose to discredit Bigbee and think he's lying thats fine but it doesn't make the report stupid or change the fact that several players have direct evidence (i.e. cancelled checks)

Cooleyvol · 12-13-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Hugg

Brian Roberts makes the report because Larry Bigbie said he told him he took steroids.

This report is stupid.

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Originally Posted by DCG12

Why is it stupid. The report lays out in detail why the players listed are there. Some have more evidence then others. If you choose to discredit Bigbee and think he's lying thats fine but it doesn't make the report stupid or change the fact that several players have direct evidence (i.e. cancelled checks)

When you're not happy with the results, this is what you say.

Big Hugg · 12-13-2007, 03:15 PM

I couldn't care less about the results. I don't care who is on steroids and who isn't. I wouldn't care if they all are.

And some of the evidence in there is good. But some of it so totally circumstantial that it's ridiculous that it even be listed.

Russ · 12-13-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Hugg

Yeah, basically whoever Larry Bigbie felt like accusing.

With the exception of Brian Roberts, all the other O's have a lot of evidence against them. This isn't Larry Bigbie on a witchhunt.

Cooleyvol · 12-13-2007, 03:16 PM

If the evidence against an individual is listed, and it was obtained during the investigation, why in bloody hell shouldn't it be in the investigation report?

Russ · 12-13-2007, 03:17 PM

The Dodgers front office gets it too.

12-13-2007, 02:33 PM	#43
Moriarty9 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,109	Names in the Mitchell Report (former/current Red Sox players) Lenny Dykstra David Segui Larry Bigbie Brian Roberts Jack Cust Tim Laker Josias Manzanillo Todd Hundley Mark Carreon Hal Morris Matt Franco Rondell White Roger Clemens* Andy Pettitte Chuck Knoblauch Jason Grimsley Gregg Zaun David Justice F.P. Santangelo Glenallen Hill Mo Vaughn* Denny Neagle Ron Villone Ryan Franklin Chris Donnels* Todd Williams Phil Hiatt Todd Pratt Kevin Young Mike Lansing* Cody McKay Kent Mercker* Adam Piatt Miguel Tejada Jason Christiansen Mike Stanton* Stephen Randolph Jerry Hairston Jr. Paul Lo Duca Adam Riggs Bart Miadich Fernando Vina Kevin Brown Eric Gagne* Mike Bell Matt Herges Gary Bennett Jr. Jim Parque Brendan Donnelly* Chad Allen Jeff Williams Howie Clark Nook Logan Rick Ankiel David Bell Paul Byrd Jose Canseco* Jay Gibbons Troy Glaus Jason Grimsley Jose Guillen Darren Holmes Gary Matthews Jr. John Rocker Scott Schoeneweis Ismael Valdez Matt Williams Steve Woodard Gary Sheffield Manny Alexander* Paxton Crawford* Benito Santiago Jeremy Giambi* Jason Giambi Bobby Estalella Barry Bonds Marvin Benard Armando Rios Juan Gonzalez Ricky Bones Alex Cabrera Rafael Palmeiro Ken Caminiti Randy Velarde I may have missed some, will note if I come across them. Last edited by Moriarty9; 12-13-2007 at 02:45 PM.

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Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,855	I'm a little shocked by some of the names but I can't say I'm surprised it's so rampant.

12-13-2007, 02:50 PM	#47
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,855	The thing to remember is that a lot of folks didn't cooperate with the investigation so there are more than just those on that list.

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Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	Brian Roberts makes the report because Larry Bigbie said he told him he took steroids. This report is stupid.

12-13-2007, 03:06 PM	#52
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	Lot of Orioles on that list. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

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Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	I couldn't care less about the results. I don't care who is on steroids and who isn't. I wouldn't care if they all are. And some of the evidence in there is good. But some of it so totally circumstantial that it's ridiculous that it even be listed.

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Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	If the evidence against an individual is listed, and it was obtained during the investigation, why in bloody hell shouldn't it be in the investigation report?

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