Barry Bonds in 2007 ... Where will he go? - Page 3

Bobbuttons · 10-03-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

'sok. Like I said, I'm pulling for the A's, at least in the AL. I'd be very happy with a rematch of the 1988 series.

I'd like to see a rematch of the 1995 series. Now that the Braves suck, I think we might be able to beat them this time.

darkhorse · 10-03-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Faroo6

If he plays in Oakland I officially am not an A's fan in 2007.

That's o.k. I'll replace you.

darkhorse · 10-03-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Y0DA55

Says the guy who roots for a team who had Jose Canseco, Mark McGwire, and Jason Giambi

ROFL

darkhorse · 10-03-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mrskippy

Overall his numbers were mostly respectable this year and certainly numbers that could prove useful for a number of teams.

Yep, still being one of the elite hitters in the game is certainly "mostly respectable."

mikev · 10-03-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Y0DA55

Says the guy who roots for a team who had Jose Canseco, Mark McGwire, and Jason Giambi

Wouldn't that be a big reason to NOT want another steroid abuser on the team?

jeheinz72 · 10-03-2006, 01:09 PM

I hope he plays a week for every team, so everyone can share in the misery I've had of having him on my team.

Y0DA55 · 10-03-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I hope he plays a week for every team, so everyone can share in the misery I've had of having him on my team.

Misery? Sure, you say this now. Not during his 73 homer season.

jeheinz72 · 10-03-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Y0DA55

Misery? Sure, you say this now. Not during his 73 homer season.

Was the 73 HR season fun? Yeah, but Bonds has never been my favorite Giant, and I can't think of when he was even in the top-3 except maybe that year.

He's was like a guilty pleasure TV show before the roids scandal hit. Was he fun to watch? In a way yeah, but you aren't proud of it since he's such an ass.

I just pray that the Giants don't bring him back, I'd rather watch them lose 100 than have him back.

CommishJoe · 10-03-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Yep, still being one of the elite hitters in the game is certainly "mostly respectable."

Is Giambi one of the elite hitters in the game today? Because their stats match up pretty closely:

Avg -- Giambi - .253, Bonds .270
OBP -- Giambi - .413 (12 IBB), Bonds .454 (38 IBB)
SLG -- Giambi - .558, Bonds .545

I stuck with averages/pcts(other than IBB to put the OBP disparity into perspective) since Bonds had about 100 ABs less then Giambi this year, so other stat comparisons didn't make sense to me. I don't see anything in either stat line which makes them an "elite hitter" any longer. Above average, sure, but not elite.

As for where he ends up, hopefully retired. However, if we're still stuck with him next year, anywhere but the Yankees. Staying with SF would be fine by me.

darkhorse · 10-03-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

I don't see anything in either stat line which makes them an "elite hitter" any longer. Above average, sure, but not elite.

Their power and ability to get on base made both of them among the best. I'm sure there's a point where batting average would limit a hitter to being merely above average. Neither of these fellas was anywhere near there. Both were much more productive than Robinson Cano.

abailey3313 · 10-03-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I hope he plays a week for every team, so everyone can share in the misery I've had of having him on my team.

You were miserable to have Bonds?! You should've been miserable over a bunch of the other old bums the Giants consistently trotted out there.

jeheinz72 · 10-03-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by abailey3313

You were miserable to have Bonds?! You should've been miserable over a bunch of the other old bums the Giants consistently trotted out there.

Oh, the 2004-on Giants made me miserable too. I was considerably less miserable when we actually had a good team on the whole.

KurtBevacqua · 10-03-2006, 03:34 PM

Saying, "If it weren't for injuries..." is, well kind of the point at his age. It's part of the process of the body breaking down. And this "mostly respectable," for one of the great hitters of all-time is also a big indicator. He's at the end, and his numbers next year we'll almost certainly be worse than this year and he's also very likely to spend some time on the DL, wherever that may be. Ruth and Aaron both went through the same thing at the end. So did Mantle, Mays, and Robinson. Just a matter of how stubborn and how pricey the contract will be for him to comeback. Certainly not because he's going to carry someone to the title.

Jason Moyer · 10-03-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by reds1

I wonder what would happen in this situation if Finley hadn't introduced the DH in the first place. Another reason to loathe it.

If the DH didn't exist, Barry would already have the career homerun mark. By 1.

mirrf · 10-03-2006, 04:13 PM

He will be on the Giants next year. No doubt about it.

disposableheros · 10-03-2006, 06:41 PM

my gut feeling is that he stays in SF

Cooleyvol · 10-03-2006, 07:52 PM

I hope he just leaves.

Faroo6 · 10-03-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by imation

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nate7891 · 10-03-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoman

I for one will never consider him the all time hr hitter if he does break the record,thats for sure.

Agreed, I hope he just leaves

Long_Long_Name · 10-03-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

Barry Bonds will NOT play for Oakland next year. They already have a DH in Thomas, and Bonds won't play the outfield.

It's back to SF or Anaheim.

So if he won't play the outfield, where would he play in in San Francisco?

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KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	Saying, "If it weren't for injuries..." is, well kind of the point at his age. It's part of the process of the body breaking down. And this "mostly respectable," for one of the great hitters of all-time is also a big indicator. He's at the end, and his numbers next year we'll almost certainly be worse than this year and he's also very likely to spend some time on the DL, wherever that may be. Ruth and Aaron both went through the same thing at the end. So did Mantle, Mays, and Robinson. Just a matter of how stubborn and how pricey the contract will be for him to comeback. Certainly not because he's going to carry someone to the title. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

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