Accurate New World Template to be released later today - Page 3

The Wolf · 07-16-2006, 12:37 PM

Thank you, Mr. Brown.

southside_hitmen · 07-16-2006, 04:49 PM

I have accurate league totals for both the Cuban and Japan leagues and some other changes as well if you are interested. They are located in the excell file located in the zip file below. I figure it could be a starting point for others as well, feel free to add to it. The *** and SNB are the only ones done right now.

ricobrown · 07-16-2006, 05:13 PM

thanks for the file any others you do please post for me. As you can see we've already moved on to version 2 of the world template, let me or ozziesaint know what you think and what we can change or add. Thanks

tkirch · 07-16-2006, 06:24 PM

Getting some errors with this new one. A number of the leagues have an uneven amount of teams.

southside_hitmen · 07-16-2006, 06:41 PM

Here ya go -

Cuban National League - Change name to Serie Nacional de Béisbol (SNB)

Change Zona Occidental abbreviation to (OCC) and Zona Oriental abbr. to (ORI).

Change the playoff setup to 5-7-7 and the names to Cuartos de Final, Semifinal, and Final. Here's the link for evidence fo the above 3 - http://www.inder.co.cu/indernet/comp...45/45SERIE.htm

Also, to give a more "Cuban" flavor to the league, and since the sub league are already in the language, would you consider renaming the teams with their spanish names? And also changing the Group names to their spanish names. The spreadsheet I posted has the info. Just change "Group" to "Grupo" for the second part.

The team names need a little reworking too. The "Havana Lions" team name should be "Industriales" as that is what they are known as by everyone and thier logo even has a script letter "I" in it, then change the Abbreviation to IND. Also, the more spanish spelling for the Havana Cowboys team name is Habana, not Havana and the corresponding abbr. is HAB. The other one that doesn't have the "official" nickname of the SNB is Ciego de Avila, which is actually CAV not CAB as is in the file. This site shows the official abbr. that are used by the SNB - http://www.inder.co.cu/indernet/comp...disticas90.htm

Also, if you are basing the league of the standard one that is given to us by SI, then you have Industriales and Habana switched in their spots on the "Names and Affiliations" page in the league setup. Not sure, but this may cause some importing/exporting issues with rosters/stadiums etc. if people try and import a roster set into the league.

Teams don't draft players either, instead they are signed. The financials are one of the things I am not too sure of in the league.

The all star game is held in January, sometime btw the 19th and 24th, if I find any more info on it I'll let you know.

EDIT: The all star game is on the 22nd of January

southside_hitmen · 07-16-2006, 07:00 PM

Also, the PCL and IL will now have their winners face off in a one game Championship game. However, not sure if their is a way to implement this as one league has a wild card and the other doesn't. Their also is the issue of what to call the league... Anyway, here is the link for the "Bricktown Showdown" - http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/a...=.jsp&sid=l112

southside_hitmen · 07-16-2006, 07:24 PM

I found some tweaks in the HWB also.

First off, the official league name is "Hawaii Winter Baseball" and the abbreviation is the HWB (you'll need to change the sub league and division abbr. as well). Also, the Championship game needs to be changed the the HWB (and you have the first two letters capitlaized in Championship, when it should just be the C). Link to the league website is here - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/

Also, while the "f" in Fires in CaneFires is capitalized it is still one word not two. Take a look at the schedule at the bottom of the page in the above link to see.

Next, the foreigner % should prob be bumped up as there are many Korean, Taiwanese, Chinese, and Japanese players that participate in the league. - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/...6%20Season.pdf

Finally, the season is 40 games long and begins on the first of October, not November. Here's a story with more info - http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

EDIT: The league's equivalency is btw A and AA as it will be using those players in the league. Adjust accordingly. Link, look at the middle of page 2 - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/...6%20Season.pdf

Also, the league is actually split into two divisions with 2 teams in both. The Sharks and Beach Boys are in the HWB East and the Honu and CaneFires are in the HWB West. The accurate ticket price is $3.75. Link is here - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/tickets/

ozziethesaint · 07-16-2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkirch

Getting some errors with this new one. A number of the leagues have an uneven amount of teams.

actually you will need to find custom schedules to make the new file work. because it was made from correct league setups, not what the game wants, I haven't gotten around to installing any yet.. but theres tons out there

ozziethesaint · 07-16-2006, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

I found some tweaks in the HWB also.

First off, the official league name is "Hawaii Winter Baseball" and the abbreviation is the HWB (you'll need to change the sub league and division abbr. as well). Also, the Championship game needs to be changed the the HWB (and you have the first two letters capitlaized in Championship, when it should just be the C). Link to the league website is here - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/

Also, the league is actually split into two divisions with 2 teams in both. The Sharks and Beach Boys are in the HWB East and the Honu and CaneFires are in the HWB West. The accurate ticket price is $3.75. Link is here - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/tickets/

Also, while the "f" in Fires in CaneFires is capitalized it is still one word not two. Take a look at the schedule at the bottom of the page in the above link to see.

Next, the foreigner % should prob be bumped up as there are many Korean, Taiwanese, Chinese, and Japanese players that participate in the league. - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/...6%20Season.pdf

Finally, the season is 40 games long and begins on the first of October, not November. Here's a story with more info - http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

all fixed

ozziethesaint · 07-16-2006, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

Also, the PCL and IL will now have their winners face off in a one game Championship game. However, not sure if their is a way to implement this as one league has a wild card and the other doesn't. Their also is the issue of what to call the league... Anyway, here is the link for the "Bricktown Showdown" - http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/a...=.jsp&sid=l112

the game won't allow this

Scott Vibert · 07-16-2006, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

Teams don't draft players either, instead they are signed. The financials are one of the things I am not too sure of in the league.

There is no draft, no trading, and no free agency in Cuban Baseball. All players are "amateurs" and only make money from their state issued jobs. Salary levels are extremely low.

Players play for the team that represents their home province. Each province has a team and the city of Havana (different from Havana province) has two teams, Metropolitanos and Industriales.

southside_hitmen · 07-16-2006, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziethesaint

all fixed

Nice, thanks ozzie! I added a few more things to the post. If you are like me and are too lazy to scroll up here is the link - http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...9&postcount=47 - check under the edit section.

ozziethesaint · 07-16-2006, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

Here ya go -

Cuban National League - Change name to Serie Nacional de Béisbol (SNB)

Change Zona Occidental abbreviation to (OCC) and Zona Oriental abbr. to (ORI).

Change the playoff setup to 5-7-7 and the names to Cuartos de Final, Semifinal, and Final. Here's the link for evidence fo the above 3 - http://www.inder.co.cu/indernet/comp...45/45SERIE.htm

Teams don't draft players either, instead they are signed. The financials are one of the things I am not too sure of in the league.

The all star game is held in January, sometime btw the 19th and 24th, if I find any more info on it I'll let you know.

EDIT: The all star game is on the 22nd of January

I fixed the things that I left in the Quote

ozziethesaint · 07-16-2006, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

EDIT: The league's equivalency is btw A and AA as it will be using those players in the league. Adjust accordingly. Link, look at the middle of page 2 - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/...6%20Season.pdf

Also, the league is actually split into two divisions with 2 teams in both. The Sharks and Beach Boys are in the HWB East and the Honu and CaneFires are in the HWB West. The accurate ticket price is $3.75. Link is here - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/tickets/

fixed and fixed

ozziethesaint · 07-16-2006, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Vibert

There is no draft, no trading, and no free agency in Cuban Baseball. All players are "amateurs" and only make money from their state issued jobs. Salary levels are extremely low.

Players play for the team that represents their home province. Each province has a team and the city of Havana (different from Havana province) has two teams, Metropolitanos and Industriales.

removed all trading, and free agents. and i might tweak the financials down either farther

ok Yea i tweaked the financials down some more

southside_hitmen · 07-16-2006, 09:10 PM

First off, the league name is just like Major League Baseball, so "[league redacted]" is fine, there is no need to add league after the title.

The Pacific League's abbr. for itself is the PBL - LINK (look at the header at the top) - the Central League's abbreviation is the CL - LINK (there logo is even a CL).

Some of the team names need a little tweaking as well. look at how the teams list their names on the Leagues official website - LINK - Here is the stuff that I noticed:
Fukuoka - The "SoftBank" should be in the team name, not the nickname, also the B should be capitlaized. It's the company name and that always appears in the team name itself in Japan.
Nippon - The true name should be "Hokkaido Nippon-Ham" and the nickname "Fighters". Nippon-Ham is the company name, so they shouldn't be split up. Once again, check the link.
Yakult - "Tokyo" should be added in front of the team name.

The pitching award should be renamed the "Sawamura Award". The MVP and ROY awards should have the word "Award" after them so they work well with in-game text.

The Central League (sub league 2) does not have a DH.

There are no expanded rosters in Japan, so I would disable the rule.

The secondary roster size is 28 men, not 40. Also there are no waivers in Japan. There is a 10 day recall period if you send a player to the minors, but you can switch players everyday on your 28 man roster without penalty. However only 25 are eligible to play on any given day. I'm not sure of the specifics of this in the game, but you seem to be a little better than I at figuring these things out.

There are also no minor-league option years and no rule 5 draft. The minimum days of service for one year is 145.

The amateur draft takes place on the 15th of November.

Average attendance is about 24000.

The # of games played is 146 for the Central League and 136 games for the Pacific League. I'm sure this can be accomplished with a custom schedule.

The Championship series is called the Nippon Series

Last years league totals were as follows:
At Bats - 57,936
Hits - 15,556
Doubles - 2,668
Triples - 213
Home Runs - 1,747
Bases on Balls - 4,849
Hit By Pitches - 630
Strikeouts - 11,716
BABIP - 0.311

southside_hitmen · 07-16-2006, 09:15 PM

A few more edits for the Cuban league (SNB).

average attendance is about 6,000. If you look at that spreadsheet above (post 42) it has the stadium capacities in it as well.

Also the league totals for last year are as follows:
At Bats - 48,774
Hits - 14,305
Doubles - 2,369
Triples - 368
Home Runs - 1,049
Bases on Balls - 5,363
Hit By Pitches - 1,153
Strikeouts - 6,720
BABIP - 0.323

ozziethesaint · 07-16-2006, 10:35 PM

keep the corrections coming and I will fix the file some more tomorrow morning and upload a new version tomorrow.

also earlier you mentioned the Cuban teams could use a more cuban feel to them. want to just post what they should be and I'll switch them

southside_hitmen · 07-16-2006, 11:19 PM

ozzie, yeah i will post them up next. A quick suggestion, on your MLB league. Your league order in the NL East isn't the same as the default. Right now you go ATL, FLA, WSH, NYM, PHI when it should go ATL, FLA NYM, PHI, WSH. My only concern is that you may have some importing/exporting issues if you want to add roster sets or ballparks later on. just a heads up. OK, cuban info coming up in a couple of minutes.

ozziethesaint · 07-16-2006, 11:23 PM

ok that one's on Rico... wonder if he misses the Expos or something? because that would have worked with it LOL

07-16-2006, 06:41 PM	#45
southside_hitmen Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 201	Here ya go - Cuban National League - Change name to Serie Nacional de Béisbol (SNB) Change Zona Occidental abbreviation to (OCC) and Zona Oriental abbr. to (ORI). Change the playoff setup to 5-7-7 and the names to Cuartos de Final, Semifinal, and Final. Here's the link for evidence fo the above 3 - http://www.inder.co.cu/indernet/comp...45/45SERIE.htm Also, to give a more "Cuban" flavor to the league, and since the sub league are already in the language, would you consider renaming the teams with their spanish names? And also changing the Group names to their spanish names. The spreadsheet I posted has the info. Just change "Group" to "Grupo" for the second part. The team names need a little reworking too. The "Havana Lions" team name should be "Industriales" as that is what they are known as by everyone and thier logo even has a script letter "I" in it, then change the Abbreviation to IND. Also, the more spanish spelling for the Havana Cowboys team name is Habana, not Havana and the corresponding abbr. is HAB. The other one that doesn't have the "official" nickname of the SNB is Ciego de Avila, which is actually CAV not CAB as is in the file. This site shows the official abbr. that are used by the SNB - http://www.inder.co.cu/indernet/comp...disticas90.htm Also, if you are basing the league of the standard one that is given to us by SI, then you have Industriales and Habana switched in their spots on the "Names and Affiliations" page in the league setup. Not sure, but this may cause some importing/exporting issues with rosters/stadiums etc. if people try and import a roster set into the league. Teams don't draft players either, instead they are signed. The financials are one of the things I am not too sure of in the league. The all star game is held in January, sometime btw the 19th and 24th, if I find any more info on it I'll let you know. EDIT: The all star game is on the 22nd of January Last edited by southside_hitmen; 07-16-2006 at 06:47 PM.

07-16-2006, 07:24 PM	#47
southside_hitmen Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 201	Hawaiian Winter Baseball I found some tweaks in the HWB also. First off, the official league name is "Hawaii Winter Baseball" and the abbreviation is the HWB (you'll need to change the sub league and division abbr. as well). Also, the Championship game needs to be changed the the HWB (and you have the first two letters capitlaized in Championship, when it should just be the C). Link to the league website is here - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/ Also, while the "f" in Fires in CaneFires is capitalized it is still one word not two. Take a look at the schedule at the bottom of the page in the above link to see. Next, the foreigner % should prob be bumped up as there are many Korean, Taiwanese, Chinese, and Japanese players that participate in the league. - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/...6%20Season.pdf Finally, the season is 40 games long and begins on the first of October, not November. Here's a story with more info - http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns EDIT: The league's equivalency is btw A and AA as it will be using those players in the league. Adjust accordingly. Link, look at the middle of page 2 - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/...6%20Season.pdf Also, the league is actually split into two divisions with 2 teams in both. The Sharks and Beach Boys are in the HWB East and the Honu and CaneFires are in the HWB West. The accurate ticket price is $3.75. Link is here - http://www.hawaiiwinterbaseball.com/tickets/ Last edited by southside_hitmen; 07-16-2006 at 07:46 PM.

07-16-2006, 09:10 PM	#56
southside_hitmen Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 201	[league redacted] First off, the league name is just like Major League Baseball, so "[league redacted]" is fine, there is no need to add league after the title. The Pacific League's abbr. for itself is the PBL - LINK (look at the header at the top) - the Central League's abbreviation is the CL - LINK (there logo is even a CL). Some of the team names need a little tweaking as well. look at how the teams list their names on the Leagues official website - LINK - Here is the stuff that I noticed: Fukuoka - The "SoftBank" should be in the team name, not the nickname, also the B should be capitlaized. It's the company name and that always appears in the team name itself in Japan. Nippon - The true name should be "Hokkaido Nippon-Ham" and the nickname "Fighters". Nippon-Ham is the company name, so they shouldn't be split up. Once again, check the link. Yakult - "Tokyo" should be added in front of the team name. The pitching award should be renamed the "Sawamura Award". The MVP and ROY awards should have the word "Award" after them so they work well with in-game text. The Central League (sub league 2) does not have a DH. There are no expanded rosters in Japan, so I would disable the rule. The secondary roster size is 28 men, not 40. Also there are no waivers in Japan. There is a 10 day recall period if you send a player to the minors, but you can switch players everyday on your 28 man roster without penalty. However only 25 are eligible to play on any given day. I'm not sure of the specifics of this in the game, but you seem to be a little better than I at figuring these things out. There are also no minor-league option years and no rule 5 draft. The minimum days of service for one year is 145. The amateur draft takes place on the 15th of November. Average attendance is about 24000. The # of games played is 146 for the Central League and 136 games for the Pacific League. I'm sure this can be accomplished with a custom schedule. The Championship series is called the Nippon Series Last years league totals were as follows: At Bats - 57,936 Hits - 15,556 Doubles - 2,668 Triples - 213 Home Runs - 1,747 Bases on Balls - 4,849 Hit By Pitches - 630 Strikeouts - 11,716 BABIP - 0.311 Last edited by southside_hitmen; 07-16-2006 at 10:06 PM.

07-16-2006, 05:13 PM	#43
ricobrown Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 131	thanks for the file any others you do please post for me. As you can see we've already moved on to version 2 of the world template, let me or ozziesaint know what you think and what we can change or add. Thanks

07-16-2006, 06:24 PM	#44
tkirch Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 196	Getting some errors with this new one. A number of the leagues have an uneven amount of teams.

07-16-2006, 07:00 PM	#46
southside_hitmen Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 201	Also, the PCL and IL will now have their winners face off in a one game Championship game. However, not sure if their is a way to implement this as one league has a wild card and the other doesn't. Their also is the issue of what to call the league... Anyway, here is the link for the "Bricktown Showdown" - http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/a...=.jsp&sid=l112

07-16-2006, 09:15 PM	#57
southside_hitmen Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 201	A few more edits for the Cuban league (SNB). average attendance is about 6,000. If you look at that spreadsheet above (post 42) it has the stadium capacities in it as well. Also the league totals for last year are as follows: At Bats - 48,774 Hits - 14,305 Doubles - 2,369 Triples - 368 Home Runs - 1,049 Bases on Balls - 5,363 Hit By Pitches - 1,153 Strikeouts - 6,720 BABIP - 0.323

07-16-2006, 10:35 PM	#58
ozziethesaint Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Peoria IL Posts: 831	keep the corrections coming and I will fix the file some more tomorrow morning and upload a new version tomorrow. also earlier you mentioned the Cuban teams could use a more cuban feel to them. want to just post what they should be and I'll switch them

07-16-2006, 11:19 PM	#59
southside_hitmen Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 201	ozzie, yeah i will post them up next. A quick suggestion, on your MLB league. Your league order in the NL East isn't the same as the default. Right now you go ATL, FLA, WSH, NYM, PHI when it should go ATL, FLA NYM, PHI, WSH. My only concern is that you may have some importing/exporting issues if you want to add roster sets or ballparks later on. just a heads up. OK, cuban info coming up in a couple of minutes.

07-16-2006, 11:23 PM	#60
ozziethesaint Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Peoria IL Posts: 831	ok that one's on Rico... wonder if he misses the Expos or something? because that would have worked with it LOL