2006 New York Mets - Page 3

Luis_Rivera · 04-06-2006, 07:04 PM

Petey's first start of the year is on ESPN!!

The only time you ever see me rooting for NY teams in sports is one out of every 5 Mets games.

Melo · 04-06-2006, 07:20 PM

Luis, are you saying the Mets game is on ESPN? If so, I'm REALLY pissed. My cable company has not negotiated a deal with SNY and still I'm BLACKED FREAKING OUT of the game on ESPN as well.

GRRRRRRR

Luis_Rivera · 04-06-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Melo

Luis, are you saying the Mets game is on ESPN? If so, I'm REALLY pissed. My cable company has not negotiated a deal with SNY and still I'm BLACKED FREAKING OUT of the game on ESPN as well.

GRRRRRRR

At least you don't have to listen to Joe Morgan!

lgkeeper · 04-06-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Melo

Luis, are you saying the Mets game is on ESPN? If so, I'm REALLY pissed. My cable company has not negotiated a deal with SNY and still I'm BLACKED FREAKING OUT of the game on ESPN as well.

GRRRRRRR

Me neither, man....it sucked. I watched it on Gamecast but, needless to say, it wasn't the same.

Melo · 04-07-2006, 07:21 AM

Chippy win for the Mets. Like lgkeeper, I had gamecast only for the game. I'll have to get a radio in the living room until this SNY mess gets straightened out.

Pedro plunks Guillen a couple of times and evidently stares him down after the 2nd one. Mets pull away late for a 10-5 win. Pedro goes 6 and gives up 5 runs but gets the vic. Florida next. I think the April schedule favors the Mets and I predicted that they'll play in excess of .600 ball this month. Spanking FLA after winning the Wash series would be a step in the right direction.

LeiterFanatic · 04-07-2006, 07:27 AM

What happened in that game? I watched it but I am sick so I dozed off several times. I saw there was a little brouhaha regarding Martinez plunking somebody and they were pissed and had to be held back by Lo Duca. Whatever came of that?

ctorg · 04-07-2006, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Melo

I think the April schedule favors the Mets and I predicted that they'll play in excess of .600 ball this month. Spanking FLA after winning the Wash series would be a step in the right direction.

Yeah, April looks like a good chance to get started on the right foot, maybe get the confidence built up a bit.

GForce · 04-07-2006, 10:26 AM

Absolutely bizarre game. Pedro obviously doesn't have his stuff yet. 7 spring innings, this new shoe, just going to take some time. He gave up the big shot to Johnson, hit 3 guys. None were intentional by appearances, but Guillen was hit 3 times in 3 games. I can understand him being a bit PO'ed.

Mets bats look good, Sanchez solid in relief.

Strange thing that bears a bit of following perhaps. Mets up 6-5. Mets have one on, and Beltran hammers a big 2-run shot. It's his first hit of the year, and the fans have been on him since his first AB of the year. Fans cheer rabidly, begging for a curtain call. Beltran will NOT go out there. Hard to get inside a guy's head, but just judging from the look on his face, it looked like a big "F-U" from his end.

After about 5 pitches to Delgado and the Mets fans still chanting for Beltran to come out, Julio Franco goes over to him on the bench and basically tells him he needs to go out there and acknowledge their support. He briefly goes up the steps, does a quick wave, and sits back down.

Beltran has always come off as a really humble guy, so I suppose this could be a matter of him not really wanting to show anybody up or anything. But from how he looked, it seems he's sick and tired of being booed and was basically saying the hell with the crowd at that point.

Understandable to a degree, but a VERY dangerous game for him to try and play in NY. He'll get chewed up in a heartbeat if he pulls that again. When the crowd shows it's eager to embrace you, you let them.

GH

ctorg · 04-07-2006, 11:20 AM

People have given Beltran a pretty hard time about last year, deservedly so. I'm sure he is quite tired of the negative reaction and constant talk about him having to prove himself this year. Hopefully that was just a lapse for him and not the beginning of a rift with the fans.

GForce · 04-07-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

People have given Beltran a pretty hard time about last year, deservedly so. I'm sure he is quite tired of the negative reaction and constant talk about him having to prove himself this year. Hopefully that was just a lapse for him and not the beginning of a rift with the fans.

And you could tell by how they responded to his shot, it's like they wanted to tell him "Look, man...we're pulling for you, we're on your side." They haven't turned completely on him, they're just frustrated. He needs to recognize that. A rift with fans in NY is not going to go well for him at all.

GH

darkhorse · 04-07-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

People have given Beltran a pretty hard time about last year, deservedly so.

Indeed. Playing through injury basically all year and giving the team 151 games of solid play is eminently worthy of derision.

Melo · 04-07-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Indeed. Playing through injury basically all year and giving the team 151 games of solid play is eminently worthy of derision.

NY fans are such pricks sometimes. Most of the Met fan boards are unreadable. I mean c'mon, if people are going to be so negative, why are they rooting for the team?

ctorg · 04-07-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Indeed. Playing through injury basically all year and giving the team 151 games of solid play is eminently worthy of derision.

Okay, maybe I was a bit harsh. Maybe they should have been booing the front office for signing him for so much money. But still, when a guy is being paid what he is being paid, he's expected to perform better than he did last year. Maybe, in light of the injuries, that's not quite fair, but neither is having games blacked out or a million other things. I'm not going to feel too sorry for him.

HanKDanK · 04-07-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

Beltran has always come off as a really humble guy, so I suppose this could be a matter of him not really wanting to show anybody up or anything. But from how he looked, it seems he's sick and tired of being booed and was basically saying the hell with the crowd at that point.

Understandable to a degree, but a VERY dangerous game for him to try and play in NY. He'll get chewed up in a heartbeat if he pulls that again. When the crowd shows it's eager to embrace you, you let them.

GH

Thats exactly how Randolph explained it post game, not so much that he was pissed at the crowds but he felt it was unsportsman like to get a curtain call for insurance runs. That, and personally, I think hes frustrated and not satisfied with his production and doesnt want to make a big deal out of a HR in game 3.

Still cracks me up how he has the big bat when Pedro is on the mound.

GForce · 04-07-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Indeed. Playing through injury basically all year and giving the team 151 games of solid play is eminently worthy of derision.

Oh stop...you know full well he underachieved last year. I swear, sometimes I think you and Skipaway are twins.

GH

GForce · 04-07-2006, 10:17 PM

Another good effort tonight in a 9-3 win over the Marlins. Trachsel looked solid and the offense clicked again. Xavier Nady continues to impress with a couple more hits. Wright hit a 470-foot bomb, and Reyes homered as well.

Certainly way too soon to tell, but Reyes seems to be making a real effort to be more patient. He's seeing more pitches per at bat, something Rickey Henderson worked with him on during the spring. Learning patience is hard, but not impossible. If Reyes develops some, it's a huge, huge asset.

That we don't have better than Jorge Julio and Darren Oliver to put in our middle relief, though, concerns me a bit. Because Julio is teh suck.

GH

potatoman · 04-07-2006, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

Because Julio is teh suck.

teh suk cost us a bit.

darkhorse · 04-08-2006, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GForce

Oh stop...you know full well he underachieved last year.

Nah, don't like that. It implies that he could have played better if he wanted, which I don't believe was the case at all.

Caporegime · 04-08-2006, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Indeed. Playing through injury basically all year and giving the team 151 games of solid play is eminently worthy of derision.

His play may not have been worthy of derision, but it certainly wasn't worthy of a $10 million paycheck either.

Slackker · 04-08-2006, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Nah, don't like that. It implies that he could have played better if he wanted, which I don't believe was the case at all.

"Underachieving" means a lack of effort? Since when? All it means is that he didn't perform up to expectations - and there's really no debating that, is there? Injury or not I'd say most Mets fans expected better. Of course then there's the ones like me who don't think he's capable of putting together the kind of year that most other fans expect. Or even close.

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04-06-2006, 07:04 PM	#41
Luis_Rivera Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,177	Petey's first start of the year is on ESPN!! The only time you ever see me rooting for NY teams in sports is one out of every 5 Mets games.

04-06-2006, 07:20 PM	#42
Melo All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the baned reside Posts: 1,428	Luis, are you saying the Mets game is on ESPN? If so, I'm REALLY pissed. My cable company has not negotiated a deal with SNY and still I'm BLACKED FREAKING OUT of the game on ESPN as well. GRRRRRRR

04-07-2006, 07:21 AM	#45
Melo All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the baned reside Posts: 1,428	Chippy win for the Mets. Like lgkeeper, I had gamecast only for the game. I'll have to get a radio in the living room until this SNY mess gets straightened out. Pedro plunks Guillen a couple of times and evidently stares him down after the 2nd one. Mets pull away late for a 10-5 win. Pedro goes 6 and gives up 5 runs but gets the vic. Florida next. I think the April schedule favors the Mets and I predicted that they'll play in excess of .600 ball this month. Spanking FLA after winning the Wash series would be a step in the right direction.

04-07-2006, 07:27 AM	#46
LeiterFanatic All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,358	What happened in that game? I watched it but I am sick so I dozed off several times. I saw there was a little brouhaha regarding Martinez plunking somebody and they were pissed and had to be held back by Lo Duca. Whatever came of that?

04-07-2006, 10:26 AM	#48
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Absolutely bizarre game. Pedro obviously doesn't have his stuff yet. 7 spring innings, this new shoe, just going to take some time. He gave up the big shot to Johnson, hit 3 guys. None were intentional by appearances, but Guillen was hit 3 times in 3 games. I can understand him being a bit PO'ed. Mets bats look good, Sanchez solid in relief. Strange thing that bears a bit of following perhaps. Mets up 6-5. Mets have one on, and Beltran hammers a big 2-run shot. It's his first hit of the year, and the fans have been on him since his first AB of the year. Fans cheer rabidly, begging for a curtain call. Beltran will NOT go out there. Hard to get inside a guy's head, but just judging from the look on his face, it looked like a big "F-U" from his end. After about 5 pitches to Delgado and the Mets fans still chanting for Beltran to come out, Julio Franco goes over to him on the bench and basically tells him he needs to go out there and acknowledge their support. He briefly goes up the steps, does a quick wave, and sits back down. Beltran has always come off as a really humble guy, so I suppose this could be a matter of him not really wanting to show anybody up or anything. But from how he looked, it seems he's sick and tired of being booed and was basically saying the hell with the crowd at that point. Understandable to a degree, but a VERY dangerous game for him to try and play in NY. He'll get chewed up in a heartbeat if he pulls that again. When the crowd shows it's eager to embrace you, you let them. GH

04-07-2006, 10:17 PM	#56
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Another good effort tonight in a 9-3 win over the Marlins. Trachsel looked solid and the offense clicked again. Xavier Nady continues to impress with a couple more hits. Wright hit a 470-foot bomb, and Reyes homered as well. Certainly way too soon to tell, but Reyes seems to be making a real effort to be more patient. He's seeing more pitches per at bat, something Rickey Henderson worked with him on during the spring. Learning patience is hard, but not impossible. If Reyes develops some, it's a huge, huge asset. That we don't have better than Jorge Julio and Darren Oliver to put in our middle relief, though, concerns me a bit. Because Julio is teh suck. GH