Kobe Bryant is approcahing 80 - Page 3

BrewedCrew · 01-23-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by IatricSB

Still found time for 6 rebounds, 2 assists (?), 3 steals, and a block. Oh and 3 turnovers and 1 foul. Not a bad nights work.

Cant believe he managed 2 assists somebody must of hit the ball out of his hand into a teamates

IatricSB · 01-23-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BrewedCrew

Cant believe he managed 2 assists somebody must of hit the ball out of his hand into a teamates

Considering the rest of the team shot only 33% (14 for 42), I'm surprised he has any assists.

(BTW, Kobe shot 60.9%)

marioh · 01-23-2006, 11:38 AM

Amazing.

IatricSB · 01-23-2006, 12:47 PM

They've been mentioning all morning that the opposing coach never really tried to even double team him, let alone triple team him. So if the other 4 are being guarded and are not having good shooting nights, isn't it "team play" to give the ball to the guy with the hot hand? It would be different if he was forcing it up with 3 guys surrounding him. At least then the argument would be that two are open and should have easy shots.

Greg Layton · 01-23-2006, 01:08 PM

Meh, I've never liked the guy. I have to admit, though, that he's a heck of a player. It is hard for me to label him a ball hog when the rest of his team isn't anywhere near his caliber. That being said, he'll never be on the same page as Bird or Jordan in my book, even if he averages 80 a game.

TotalEnd98 · 01-23-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by IatricSB

They've been mentioning all morning that the opposing coach never really tried to even double team him, let alone triple team him. So if the over 4 are being guarded and are not having good shooting nights, isn't it "team play" to give the ball to the guy with the hot hand?

Bah, next you'll be saying it's selfish for A-Rod to hit home runs when his team's already winning.

Jair · 01-23-2006, 01:22 PM

Kobe's 81 >>> Wilt's 100 >>> any other scoring performance in the history of the NBA

^^East coast sports fan.

Joe Canadian · 01-23-2006, 01:26 PM

Wow!!!! Kobe kicks ass!!!

Goody · 01-23-2006, 01:35 PM

About the double and triple teaming suggestions...

Its a bit difficult to double, let alone triple team a guard. Obviously when he drives you can switch players over but if your team simply sucks at defense then that is the problem in the first place...they won't be good at reading their own weaknesses and knowing when and who should change focus. I'm sure the offensive schemes the Lakers have set up are designed to confuse them in this manner which is why it looks like they aren't even trying to gang up on him.

A post player is easy to double and triple team. You've got everything contained around the basket while the guys you're leaving open are on the perimeter where if the ball does get kicked out you still have a chance to be between them and the basket and they have to beat you still. Teaming up on a guard outside would just be silly...making him beat you is at least better than letting the rest of his crappy team shoot layups and wide open 5 footers all night.

Apparently Kobe...(I don't watch NBA since he's been in the league so I have to assume)...is just such a good guard that there's no counter unless you have somebody that can keep up with him enough to make his FG% go below a decent post man's average FG%.

I mean, its easy to say "they need to double and triple team him"...but think about it for a minute. How?

Gastric ReFlux · 01-23-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 9lives

I mean, its easy to say "they need to double and triple team him"...but think about it for a minute. How?

Sneak an extra guy or two onto the floor.

Goody · 01-23-2006, 01:38 PM

THe only way to effectively be able to double team a guard is with zone defense, is that still illegal in the NBA?

Joe Canadian · 01-23-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gastric ReFlux

Sneak an extra guy or two onto the floor.

And I really doubt the refs would care is the Raps put their whole team on the floor, it wouldn't make that much difference.

IatricSB · 01-23-2006, 01:39 PM

Well, they did say that when Kobe was double teamed, they were stopping him (apparently it was done right at the end after he had his 81 or something). Plus this was the same team that Kobe scored 11 against in their last game against each other (not sure if it was good defense, injury, low energy level, a blowout, or legal problems that held him to 11. And I'm not saying that it proves they have a good D, I don't think they do).

IatricSB · 01-23-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 9lives

THe only way to effectively be able to double team a guard is with zone defense, is that still illegal in the NBA?

Not sure if it is but it was said they went to a zone at one point but didn't help as hot as he was.

Goody · 01-23-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IatricSB

Not sure if it is but it was said they went to a zone at one point but didn't help as hot as he was.

That's just amazing. I would love to see this game. Wonder what is the fastest way I could get my hands on it not having cable tv.

twins15 · 01-23-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 9lives

THe only way to effectively be able to double team a guard is with zone defense, is that still illegal in the NBA?

Nope. A couple years ago they did away with illegal defense. As long as you're not in the lane for 3 seconds guarding nobody, you're fine. You can play zone defense.

drprestwood · 01-23-2006, 01:48 PM

I agree that this is more impressive than Chamberlain. Ridiculous.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 01-23-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by drprestwood

I agree that this is more impressive than Chamberlain. Ridiculous.

Even if it isn't better than the Chamberlain game, the very fact that this is the only other game in NBA history to which it can realistically be compared is pretty telling.

sporr · 01-23-2006, 02:04 PM

It's probably just a matter of time before he comes close to matching this again.

drprestwood · 01-23-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckstein 4 Prez

Even if it isn't better than the Chamberlain game, the very fact that this is the only other game in NBA history to which it can realistically be compared is pretty telling.

That's a very good point. Bravo

01-23-2006, 12:47 PM	#44
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	They've been mentioning all morning that the opposing coach never really tried to even double team him, let alone triple team him. So if the other 4 are being guarded and are not having good shooting nights, isn't it "team play" to give the ball to the guy with the hot hand? It would be different if he was forcing it up with 3 guys surrounding him. At least then the argument would be that two are open and should have easy shots. __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards Last edited by IatricSB; 01-23-2006 at 01:26 PM.

01-23-2006, 01:22 PM	#47
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01-23-2006, 01:39 PM	#53
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	Well, they did say that when Kobe was double teamed, they were stopping him (apparently it was done right at the end after he had his 81 or something). Plus this was the same team that Kobe scored 11 against in their last game against each other (not sure if it was good defense, injury, low energy level, a blowout, or legal problems that held him to 11. And I'm not saying that it proves they have a good D, I don't think they do). __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

01-23-2006, 11:38 AM	#43
marioh All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 1,162	Amazing.

01-23-2006, 01:08 PM	#45
Greg Layton Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 302	Meh, I've never liked the guy. I have to admit, though, that he's a heck of a player. It is hard for me to label him a ball hog when the rest of his team isn't anywhere near his caliber. That being said, he'll never be on the same page as Bird or Jordan in my book, even if he averages 80 a game.

01-23-2006, 01:35 PM	#49
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 3,530	About the double and triple teaming suggestions... Its a bit difficult to double, let alone triple team a guard. Obviously when he drives you can switch players over but if your team simply sucks at defense then that is the problem in the first place...they won't be good at reading their own weaknesses and knowing when and who should change focus. I'm sure the offensive schemes the Lakers have set up are designed to confuse them in this manner which is why it looks like they aren't even trying to gang up on him. A post player is easy to double and triple team. You've got everything contained around the basket while the guys you're leaving open are on the perimeter where if the ball does get kicked out you still have a chance to be between them and the basket and they have to beat you still. Teaming up on a guard outside would just be silly...making him beat you is at least better than letting the rest of his crappy team shoot layups and wide open 5 footers all night. Apparently Kobe...(I don't watch NBA since he's been in the league so I have to assume)...is just such a good guard that there's no counter unless you have somebody that can keep up with him enough to make his FG% go below a decent post man's average FG%. I mean, its easy to say "they need to double and triple team him"...but think about it for a minute. How?

01-23-2006, 01:38 PM	#51
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 3,530	THe only way to effectively be able to double team a guard is with zone defense, is that still illegal in the NBA?

01-23-2006, 01:48 PM	#57
drprestwood All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,501	I agree that this is more impressive than Chamberlain. Ridiculous.

01-23-2006, 02:04 PM	#59
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	It's probably just a matter of time before he comes close to matching this again.