2007 New York Yankees Thread

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by robster1225

2 runs over two games, not good. The pitching is pretty stable now, where is the offense?

Yanks: 5 runs, top of the second. Would have been more if A-Rod's fly ball to deep left-center had gone a few more feet. There is your offense, sir.

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Yanks: 5 runs, top of the second. Would have been more if A-Rod's fly ball to deep left-center had gone a few more feet. There is your offense, sir.

Top of the 3rd, 2 more

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

I can't argue with that!

As far as the greatest Yankee team of all, from the late 1990's as it happened, you don't have far to look.

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My favorite Yankee shirt that I wear is a 1998 shirt. It simply says, 1998 Yankees, Greatest Team Ever!

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by thomamon

My favorite Yankee shirt that I wear is a 1998 shirt. It simply says, 1998 Yankees, Greatest Team Ever!

You da man.

Too bad your avatar guy could not have hung around to be a part of that team. He would have been only 37, not a stretch by any means these days, but alas it was not meant to be.

Of course, he would have been backing up Tino at 1B; can't take Martinez out of the everyday lineup with his 123 RBI's, Or he could have DH'd perhaps, although Strawberry and Raines produced 104 RBI's combined . . . Hmmm.

Well, it would have been nice to have him in the dugout at least. Wait, that's where he is now!

[robster1225]

Good win last night. So, is Desalvo the real thing?

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

You da man.

Too bad your avatar guy could not have hung around to be a part of that team. He would have been only 37, not a stretch by any means these days, but alas it was not meant to be.

Of course, he would have been backing up Tino at 1B; can't take Martinez out of the everyday lineup with his 123 RBI's, Or he could have DH'd perhaps, although Strawberry and Raines produced 104 RBI's combined . . . Hmmm.

Well, it would have been nice to have him in the dugout at least. Wait, that's where he is now!

I would have taken Donnie on the 96 team. Now that one hurt, considering it was the year after he left :-( My heart still wrenches when I think about it. I'll never forget the day they announced they signed Tino that off season, and how long it took me to warm to him because he was replacing my childhood hero. Luckily, Tino's a good guy and was also a Donnie fan.

I guess Donnie will just have to be like Joe and get his first ring, managing the team

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by robster1225

Good win last night. So, is Desalvo the real thing?

I honestly believe so. So do the M's, from the sounds of it. Here is a quote from an ESPN Article today.

DeSalvo (1-0) made his first major league start against Seattle on Monday. He allowed one run in seven innings but got a no-decision. Saturday, he had a surprise for Seattle -- a slow forkball he hadn't thrown much since high school in New Castle, Penn.

The first time he threw it, to strike out Richie Sexson leading off the sixth, Sexson swung over it by about a foot and then mouthed "Wow!" back at DeSalvo in disbelief.

[Luis_Rivera]

Originally Posted by robster1225

Good win last night. So, is Desalvo the real thing?

DeSalvo's career has been a mixed bag. There's talent there - he might have had the best division III career of all time - but there's command problems that he hasn't been able to shake since after his '05 season.

He hasn't looked all that great in his two starts, though it's just that - two starts. He's one of those underdog type of guys that I'd be rooting for if he wasn't a Yankee.

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

He hasn't looked all that great in his two starts, though it's just that - two starts.

Is that a typo?

I honestly think him being in the bigs, working with Guidry and others is only gonna help him. He was lights out at AAA this year as well.

[Luis_Rivera]

Originally Posted by thomamon

Is that a typo?

I honestly think him being in the bigs, working with Guidry and others is only gonna help him. He was lights out at AAA this year as well.

Striking out two guys and walking 6 in 14 innings of work is not good. Again, I wouldn't take much out of that because it's just 14 innings, but my point is that if he does that every game he's gonna get killed.

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

Striking out two guys and walking 6 in 14 innings of work is not good. Again, I wouldn't take much out of that because it's just 14 innings, but my point is that if he does that every game he's gonna get killed.

He has a 1.17 WHIP. While his control may be slightly off, his performances have been nothing to balk at. The fact that they are having trouble hitting him speaks wonders. Just watching him pitch, you can see he has good stuff.

[Luis_Rivera]

Originally Posted by thomamon

He has a 1.17 WHIP. While his control may be slightly off, his performances have been nothing to balk at. The fact that they are having trouble hitting him speaks wonders. Just watching him pitch, you can see he has good stuff.

Oh I know he has good stuff... but you have to look at the whole picture. That WHIP comes from a .215 BABIP (batting average on balls in play) which means that he has been hit-lucky. It's not that they're "having trouble" hitting him. In fact, the lack of strikeouts would indicate that they're not having any trouble connecting on his pitches, if anything.

Again, I can't stress enough that it's just 14 innings so making any sort of conclusion from the data is not a good idea, but it's a good illustration of the principles of DIPS.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by thomamon

He has a 1.17 WHIP. While his control may be slightly off, his performances have been nothing to balk at. The fact that they are having trouble hitting him speaks wonders. Just watching him pitch, you can see he has good stuff.

Plus, he had the brass (I wanted to use the other word, but I'm shy ) to strike out a power hitter with "a slow forkball he hadn't thrown much since high school in New Castle, Penn" in his second ML start! That says something to me about his high level of confidence, which is something I am always looking for in a pitcher. It is extraordinary to me when I see it in a rookie like DeSalvo. Maybe I should say "noteworthy" because others here will say it's a prerequisite to doing well in the major leagues, but it bodes well nonetheless IMO.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

Again, I can't stress enough that it's just 14 innings so making any sort of conclusion from the data is not a good idea.

Unfortunately, you're right, Luis. It's too soon to tell about any of these young turks. But, it's been quite a while since I have seen this many good looking rookie pitchers in old NY town: DeSalvo, Hughes, Rasner, Karstens. Very unusual. Three out of four would have been traded by now for guys like Kevin Brown, in the "old" days.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

Oh I know he has good stuff... but you have to look at the whole picture. That WHIP comes from a .215 BABIP (batting average on balls in play) which means that he has been hit-lucky. It's not that they're "having trouble" hitting him. In fact, the lack of strikeouts would indicate that they're not having any trouble connecting on his pitches, if anything.

Good observation, BTW. Watching him pitch, I was a bit troubled by the number of deep fly outs and sharply hit ground balls which fortunately were within fielder range. It was like the Seattle batters were just missing him by *that* much. You may have something there. We will see.

[darkhorse]

I'd still take the '27 Yankees over any team.

[darkhorse]

Very kewl article on Matt DeSalvo and Tim Lincecum linked below. DeSalvo's collegiate pitching record at tiny Marietta is off da hook cwazy. 53-6 W-L record, 395 IP, 220 H, 188 BB, 603 K's.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=6214

[robster1225]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Unfortunately, you're right, Luis. It's too soon to tell about any of these young turks. But, it's been quite a while since I have seen this many good looking rookie pitchers in old NY town: DeSalvo, Hughes, Rasner, Karstens. Very unusual. Three out of four would have been traded by now for guys like Kevin Brown, in the "old" days.

Your right. You know what, maybe they should trade a couple of those guys for David Wells and we could have a reunion . Ok, maybe not, but seeing these young guys pitch has been one of the "bright" spots of this season. It's not to often you get a good look at virtually ALL of your prospects. ( I know it's not ALL of them, but it seems like it ). So far the future looks bright, as long as we hang on to what we have.

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by robster1225

Your right. You know what, maybe they should trade a couple of those guys for David Wells and we could have a reunion . Ok, maybe not, but seeing these young guys pitch has been one of the "bright" spots of this season. It's not to often you get a good look at virtually ALL of your prospects. ( I know it's not ALL of them, but it seems like it ). So far the future looks bright, as long as we hang on to what we have.

Maybe they can suspend George again and let the baseball people take care of the baseball business

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by thomamon

Maybe they can suspend George again and let the baseball people take care of the baseball business

The baseball people seem to be doing a very good job of late with producing young talent. And, meself, I'd rather have George's huge budgets and desire to win on top of the youth movement.