Utba - Page 29

kenyan_cheena · 08-31-2006, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

We also could expand again. How many teams would be too many?

If it went to 18 teams, you could always have three divisions of six. The playoffs could be the three champs plus a wildcard.

mh2365 · 08-31-2006, 05:39 AM

I'm alright with 2 more teams this year or next. I think 20 would be the max.

Romultiltus · 08-31-2006, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

The only change I would make, which is minor, is calling them Gold and Silver Conferences and East and West Divisions.

I thought the same thing when I first saw the new Standings chart, but didn't really think it was a big deal at the time.

As for adding 2 more teams, sure - why not. As for the divisions, it could be 3 (as suggested by kenyan cheena): Gold, Silver and Platinum and still maintain 10 rounds a season. Each team will only face the ones in its own division twice (home and away).

mh2365 · 08-31-2006, 07:50 AM

If we go to 3 divisions then I vote for a 6 team playoff with all the second place teams making the playoff and the two division winners with the best records get first round byes.

You could also still do the 4 division but with one Conference having two divisions of 5 and the other having two divisions of 4.

gocubsgo · 08-31-2006, 08:19 AM

Let me know if you guys expand next season or a team opens up. I would definitely be interested.

Romdawg88 · 08-31-2006, 10:58 AM

I'll be fine with adding some more teams to me it's up to SAL though since he has to do all the work.

Ian Lord · 08-31-2006, 05:25 PM

Trade News

The Tile Hill Top Team have traded flyweight Dennis Adams, who was their second round pick, for Young Perez of champions Bonner Springs Bald Beavers. Adams, who has a 3-4-1 [1] record having previously been with The Mexivilles, leaves without ever throwing a punch in anger for 'The Hilltoppers'. This was Tile Hills first ever trade.

Ian Lord · 08-31-2006, 05:34 PM

TILE HILL TOP TEAM

Cap Points - 104
R=Rookie

HW
8 Razor Ruddock 9-6-1 [9] pre-prime
7 Alex Stewart 5-9 [3] beginning

LHW
5 Chic Calderwood 7-8 [3] beginning
8 Dwight Qawi R beginning

MW
8 Jock McAvoy 7-7-2 [2] beginning
6 Terry Downes 6-7-1 [3] beginning

WW
9 Lloyd Honeyghan 14-2 [7] beginning
6 Colin Jones 5-9-1 [5] beginning

LW
7 Dave Charnley 11-7 [2] pre-prime
Freddie Welsh 11-3-1 beginning

FW
5 Terry Spinks 4-10-2 [1] pre-prime
5 Johnny Tapia R pre-prime

BW
5 Digger Stanley 7-5-2 [1] pre-prime
4 Willie Smith 6-7-1 [2] pre-prime

FLY
6 Dave McAuley 7-6-1 [5] pre-prime
4 Young Perez 7-8-2 [2] pre-prime

CONN CHRIS · 08-31-2006, 05:37 PM

Glad to hear you got your cap fixed Ian.

Scot:

Are we waiting for expansion rosters to be set before the free agent draft begins or can we submit our (up to) three names now?

By the Way, the rules look perfectly fine to me as is.

Ian Lord · 08-31-2006, 05:43 PM

BTW, forgot to mention the boxers I have released.
They are as follows;

LHW Albert Finch 3 rated 1-11-2 pre-prime
FW Billy Calvert 4 rated 5-9-2 [1] pre-prime
FLY Yukito tamakuma 3 rated 4-10 [2] bginning

SAL · 08-31-2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

I'm alright with 2 more teams this year or next. I think 20 would be the max.

I have a list of 5 more wanting to join. To help with scheduling, we need to add even numbers. If you guys want to find one more manager to make it 6, that would give us a total of 22 teams.
The one thing I worry about is depleting the talent of what is left in the stock database. As of right now, there are 3 weight divisions that have only 85 fighters rated 6 or higher and one divsion that has 95 rated 6 or higher that is not in the UTBA yet. In the next 5 seasons and with the draft and the possibility of fighters reaching retirement by that time, that will wipe out those four divisions and leave nothing but 1 to 3 rated fighters.

What do you guys want to do?

We can leave things the way they are now at 16 teams and and we can put the guys wanting in on a waiting list and when some managers here become disinterested and leave, we'll have some managers ready to step in. I can't tell you how many PMs I sent during the draft trying to keep things going. I don't want to go through that again and I can only visualize what will happen with 20 or more teams.

gocubsgo · 08-31-2006, 06:09 PM

I would say you guys should leave it as is for now and add more next season. You dont want to deplete a good thing so that you either have to make up fictional guys or crappy new talent.

Romdawg88 · 08-31-2006, 06:28 PM

Well, five new guys would be overdoing it but if at the end of the season you want to add two new teams thats fine I ain't got no problem with that. I'm cool with which ever way you decide to go be it adding them or not.

CONN CHRIS · 08-31-2006, 06:29 PM

I would love to have everyone interested join right now but will vote for a for measured approach because:

1) The work involved for Scot will increase sharply

and

2) Disinterested owners will likely create openings without the depletion issues.

Romultiltus · 08-31-2006, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAL

I have a list of 5 more wanting to join. To help with scheduling, we need to add even numbers. If you guys want to find one more manager to make it 6, that would give us a total of 22 teams.
The one thing I worry about is depleting the talent of what is left in the stock database. As of right now, there are 3 weight divisions that have only 85 fighters rated 6 or higher and one divsion that has 95 rated 6 or higher that is not in the UTBA yet. In the next 5 seasons and with the draft and the possibility of fighters reaching retirement by that time, that will wipe out those four divisions and leave nothing but 1 to 3 rated fighters.

What do you guys want to do?

We can leave things the way they are now at 16 teams and and we can put the guys wanting in on a waiting list and when some managers here become disinterested and leave, we'll have some managers ready to step in. I can't tell you how many PMs I sent during the draft trying to keep things going. I don't want to go through that again and I can only visualize what will happen with 20 or more teams.

1. Maybe we should keep the league at 16 teams for Season 2 and then reopen the expanison issue after it ends. I'm not opposed to adding more teams, but maybe we should see if the original 14 + 2 expansion managers remain intereste interested.

2. As for the depletion of the database, I think it would be ok if we selectively added a batch of fighters that have been rated on the board. The guys who take the time to rate fighters do a fantastic job and there seems to be little debate or opposition to the accuracy of the ratings. At the end of each season, I suggest that each manager submit a list of about 10 fighters posted on the boards to be added to the draft pool. This will allow more of our personal favorites to be added as well as padding out the weight classes that do not have a large number of fighters in the stock database.

3. As the league expands, I think we should not let a season grow to past 10 rounds. That will have fighters fight a minimum of 20 fights per season. Any more than 10 rounds will definitely speed up the career length of the fighters. (Actually I would prefer if each season were only about 8 rounds since Season 1 was only 7, but 10 is not a big deal)

bear · 08-31-2006, 06:54 PM

I just PM'd my roster choices to Sal.

Bear

mh2365 · 08-31-2006, 06:55 PM

I'm pretty much good with whatever Sal wants to do on expansion .. we do have a huge database of rated fighters and I say as long as Sal decides who comes in it won't cause a problem.

SAL · 08-31-2006, 07:11 PM

I would love to have everyone interested join right now. I wish these guys were around when we spent a couple of weeks just trying to get 14.

I would like to see the league remain at 16 for now. We have a pretty good group of managers right now, but a few have been hard to get in touch with at times when a decision has been needed and it has held the progress of the league up. I have no problem of a manager being away 2 weeks or so if they would atleast PM me and let me know they'll be gone. Some have done that and some have not. It just helps in knowing if someone is gone, I won't spend 3 5o 5 days trying to reach them.

If everyone agrees to stay at 16 for the next season, I'll place the five names I have (Thunder, Lethal Liberal, Mad Bomber, Lee and gocubsgo) on a waiting list (I'll pick the order by random since I don't know what order they came in) and if a team spot opens, the number one man on the waiting list gets the team.

gocubsgo · 08-31-2006, 07:32 PM

Sounds good. Hey nice avatar by the way who is she?

SAL · 08-31-2006, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocubsgo

Sounds good. Hey nice avatar by the way who is she?

Sharon Bruneau.

08-31-2006, 10:58 AM	#566
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Belle Glade, FL Posts: 4,182	I'll be fine with adding some more teams to me it's up to SAL though since he has to do all the work. __________________ Romy "Iceman" Alvarez First TBCB Forum Tournament Champion, 10-6 (5). IBL: 13 - 4 (7) Henry Armstrong > You.

08-31-2006, 05:34 PM	#568
Ian Lord All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Coventry, England. Posts: 1,814	TILE HILL TOP TEAM Cap Points - 104 R=Rookie HW 8 Razor Ruddock 9-6-1 [9] pre-prime 7 Alex Stewart 5-9 [3] beginning LHW 5 Chic Calderwood 7-8 [3] beginning 8 Dwight Qawi R beginning MW 8 Jock McAvoy 7-7-2 [2] beginning 6 Terry Downes 6-7-1 [3] beginning WW 9 Lloyd Honeyghan 14-2 [7] beginning 6 Colin Jones 5-9-1 [5] beginning LW 7 Dave Charnley 11-7 [2] pre-prime Freddie Welsh 11-3-1 beginning FW 5 Terry Spinks 4-10-2 [1] pre-prime 5 Johnny Tapia R pre-prime BW 5 Digger Stanley 7-5-2 [1] pre-prime 4 Willie Smith 6-7-1 [2] pre-prime FLY 6 Dave McAuley 7-6-1 [5] pre-prime 4 Young Perez 7-8-2 [2] pre-prime Last edited by Ian Lord; 08-31-2006 at 05:36 PM.

08-31-2006, 05:37 PM	#569
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,077	Glad to hear you got your cap fixed Ian. Scot: Are we waiting for expansion rosters to be set before the free agent draft begins or can we submit our (up to) three names now? By the Way, the rules look perfectly fine to me as is. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

08-31-2006, 06:28 PM	#573
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Belle Glade, FL Posts: 4,182	Well, five new guys would be overdoing it but if at the end of the season you want to add two new teams thats fine I ain't got no problem with that. I'm cool with which ever way you decide to go be it adding them or not. __________________ Romy "Iceman" Alvarez First TBCB Forum Tournament Champion, 10-6 (5). IBL: 13 - 4 (7) Henry Armstrong > You. Last edited by Romdawg88; 08-31-2006 at 06:29 PM.

08-31-2006, 06:29 PM	#574
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,077	I would love to have everyone interested join right now but will vote for a for measured approach because: 1) The work involved for Scot will increase sharply and 2) Disinterested owners will likely create openings without the depletion issues. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

08-31-2006, 05:39 AM	#562
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I'm alright with 2 more teams this year or next. I think 20 would be the max.

08-31-2006, 07:50 AM	#564
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	If we go to 3 divisions then I vote for a 6 team playoff with all the second place teams making the playoff and the two division winners with the best records get first round byes. You could also still do the 4 division but with one Conference having two divisions of 5 and the other having two divisions of 4.

08-31-2006, 08:19 AM	#565
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,556	Let me know if you guys expand next season or a team opens up. I would definitely be interested.

08-31-2006, 05:25 PM	#567
Ian Lord All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Coventry, England. Posts: 1,814	Trade News The Tile Hill Top Team have traded flyweight Dennis Adams, who was their second round pick, for Young Perez of champions Bonner Springs Bald Beavers. Adams, who has a 3-4-1 [1] record having previously been with The Mexivilles, leaves without ever throwing a punch in anger for 'The Hilltoppers'. This was Tile Hills first ever trade.

08-31-2006, 05:43 PM	#570
Ian Lord All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Coventry, England. Posts: 1,814	BTW, forgot to mention the boxers I have released. They are as follows; LHW Albert Finch 3 rated 1-11-2 pre-prime FW Billy Calvert 4 rated 5-9-2 [1] pre-prime FLY Yukito tamakuma 3 rated 4-10 [2] bginning

08-31-2006, 06:09 PM	#572
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,556	I would say you guys should leave it as is for now and add more next season. You dont want to deplete a good thing so that you either have to make up fictional guys or crappy new talent.

08-31-2006, 06:54 PM	#576
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	I just PM'd my roster choices to Sal. Bear

08-31-2006, 06:55 PM	#577
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I'm pretty much good with whatever Sal wants to do on expansion .. we do have a huge database of rated fighters and I say as long as Sal decides who comes in it won't cause a problem.

08-31-2006, 07:11 PM	#578
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	I would love to have everyone interested join right now. I wish these guys were around when we spent a couple of weeks just trying to get 14. I would like to see the league remain at 16 for now. We have a pretty good group of managers right now, but a few have been hard to get in touch with at times when a decision has been needed and it has held the progress of the league up. I have no problem of a manager being away 2 weeks or so if they would atleast PM me and let me know they'll be gone. Some have done that and some have not. It just helps in knowing if someone is gone, I won't spend 3 5o 5 days trying to reach them. If everyone agrees to stay at 16 for the next season, I'll place the five names I have (Thunder, Lethal Liberal, Mad Bomber, Lee and gocubsgo) on a waiting list (I'll pick the order by random since I don't know what order they came in) and if a team spot opens, the number one man on the waiting list gets the team. Last edited by SAL; 09-01-2006 at 12:44 PM.

08-31-2006, 07:32 PM	#579
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,556	Sounds good. Hey nice avatar by the way who is she?