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Old 01-03-2026, 07:21 PM   #541
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The image you have listed as the 1884 St. Paul Saints I have recorded as 1899, inferior copy attached, with identifications.
Yes, that looks like other pictures of the same year for the Western League. I'll make the change. Thanks.
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Old 02-02-2026, 04:19 AM   #542
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This team composite has been very helpful with several tough to find players making appearances (i.e. Lawlor and Shea). I've got most of the identifications down, but the names aren't all legible. Any additional help would be great. The photo was printed in the 3/12/1911 edition of The Houston Post.
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Old 02-02-2026, 08:01 PM   #543
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This team composite has been very helpful with several tough to find players making appearances (i.e. Lawlor and Shea). I've got most of the identifications down, but the names aren't all legible. Any additional help would be great. The photo was printed in the 3/12/1911 edition of The Houston Post.
A smaller version of this was attached to a blog in 2007 called Houston Past.
https://houstorian.wordpress.com/200...aseball-teams/

This print shows the photo was taken by Charles Wright, who had a photo gallery in Houston. There is a blurb in the Houston Post in April 12, 1888 that states "A large handsome group photo of the Babies adorns the show case in front of Wright's photograph gallery; and a more handsome set of ball tossers were never bunched together."

The lineup for Houston for the game to be played that day was printed as Godar (3b), Howard (ss), Douthett (cf), Traut (1b), Murphy (c), Weikart (2b), Nichols (p), Flaherty (lf), Shea (rf). They also had Vogel, Lawlor, Lohbeck, and Flood in town at that time. Some of those names are visible on the reprint in the newspaper.

I hope these names can narrow down who is missing/not identified. Thanks for pointing me to the full photo.

Edited 2/8/2026 to remove the duplication of Flaherty.

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This team composite has been very helpful with several tough to find players making appearances (i.e. Lawlor and Shea). I've got most of the identifications down, but the names aren't all legible. Any additional help would be great. The photo was printed in the 3/12/1911 edition of The Houston Post.
I would suggest the following on the basis of information provided by the 2 previous posts. Unconventional suggestions by column (4) rather than row. Flaherty appears twice in the last post above.

Column 1 (Top to Bottom)
Vogel
? Hulin
Weikhart
Godar

Column 2
Douthett
Flaherty
Nichols
Lawlor

Column 3
Howard
Craig
Shea
Murphy

Column 4
Traut
Flood
Lohbeck ?

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I would suggest the following on the basis of information provided by the 2 previous posts. Unconventional suggestions by column (4) rather than row. Flaherty appears twice in the last post above.

Column 1 (Top to Bottom)
Vogel
? Hulin
Weikhart
Godar

Column 2
Douthett
Flaherty
Nichols
Lawlor

Column 3
Howard
Craig
Shea
Murphy

Column 4
Traut
Flood
Lohbeck ?
This is more or less what I have for identifications too. I was able to fully identify Vogel and Howard as well. Vogel, the papers note, was James H. Vogel, a pitcher. Howard was Harry Howard.
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I would suggest the following on the basis of information provided by the 2 previous posts. Unconventional suggestions by column (4) rather than row. Flaherty appears twice in the last post above.

Column 1 (Top to Bottom)
Vogel
? Hulin
Weikhart
Godar
I've been trying to determine when Hulin played for Houston and when he played for Galveston in 1888. I know the database from Reed Howard has the dates 3/30 - 7/4 for Houston (and then 7/10 - 7/22 for the club in the revamped Texas-Southern League and Galveston after that), but I have yet to find a box score with his name in it anywhere in Texas in 1888, and I also haven't found a mention of his signing with the club anywhere.

I did find mention of John Horan with the club in an article in the Houston Post on February 1, 1888, and subsequently in some preseason games. That would be my bet for the player identified as Hulin on the club in 1888, and of course, in the composite.
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I've been trying to determine when Hulin played for Houston and when he played for Galveston in 1888. I know the database from Reed Howard has the dates 3/30 - 7/4 for Houston (and then 7/10 - 7/22 for the club in the revamped Texas-Southern League and Galveston after that), but I have yet to find a box score with his name in it anywhere in Texas in 1888, and I also haven't found a mention of his signing with the club anywhere.

I did find mention of John Horan with the club in an article in the Houston Post on February 1, 1888, and subsequently in some preseason games. That would be my bet for the player identified as Hulin on the club in 1888, and of course, in the composite.
Seems like a good bet to me too, thank you..
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