Missing fighter photos - Page 27

mh2365 · 07-01-2004, 03:04 PM

paul samson-korner, although from this pic, he may turn into a werewolf during a full moon

mh2365 · 07-01-2004, 03:15 PM

Amos Carlin

mh2365 · 07-01-2004, 03:18 PM

kid graves

mh2365 · 07-01-2004, 03:20 PM

Jimmy Goodrich

mh2365 · 07-01-2004, 03:36 PM

trying to submit more than one at a time

Horace "Soldier" Jones
Ted Jamieson
terry kellar

mh2365 · 07-01-2004, 04:14 PM

slient martin
Ted moore
owen phelps
bob roper

mh2365 · 07-01-2004, 04:26 PM

bob sweeney

Buddy Whatshisname · 07-01-2004, 05:24 PM

Another of Korner, although yours is way better.

Buddy

mh2365 · 07-01-2004, 07:16 PM

My pic he looks like the wolfman and in yours he looks undead. What's wrong with this guy!!!!

Herrbear · 07-01-2004, 07:57 PM

If John Lester Johnson is just a notch below Sam Langford, then why is he rated a 4 and Sam is rated a 10?

LeeSkye · 07-01-2004, 11:55 PM

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If John Lester Johnson is just a notch below Sam Langford, then why is he rated a 4 and Sam is rated a 10?

Good question. John Lester Johnson is one of the guys I have taken a deeper look at after I started my "universe" in 1918 and I came across some interesting comments. This is where my comment came from.

"Johnson was a tough, experienced black heavyweight of the day; a notch below Sam Langford, Joe Jeannette, Sam McVey, and Harry Wills, but nevertheless a formidable opponent. John Lester Johnson was said to have once beaten Jack Dempsey in Brooklyn. According to the story, "John the Barber" Reisler, Jack Dempsey's manager at that time in 1916, booked him to fight John Lester Johnson at the Harlem Sporting Club and there was no way out of it for Dempsey. Johnson had fought Langford several times and even had beaten him once. "You dirty no-good louse," Dempsey told Reisler. Then he went in and fought what a couple of writers called a draw with the experienced Johnson--who in the second round broke three of Jack's ribs with a right to the body. "I wasn't beaten," Dempsey said later. "I was massacered."

Dempsey was 20-5-1 [18 KO] at the time so he was not a total young, green fighter. And he beat Langford and drew with Wills. Yet Johnson's record [according to Boxrec] is only 26-21-2 [14 KO]. Why? A 4 for a guy with a pretty even fight record seems okay. Alonzo Johnson is a 4 with a similar record. Opponents obviously make the difference, of course, but something else must be at play. Was he out of shape half the time? Was he older and went downhill fast, hanging on for pay days? Was he robbed of victories because he was black in a time when he had to fight for the "colored" HW title? Were Dempsey's opponents to that time total mugs?

This is one guy who seems to be better than his record. A 4? A 7? What is a "notch" below?

Some times we gotta "tweek" them as we learn more about our fighters.

crusadecat · 07-02-2004, 07:47 PM

Al Hoosman ( this is from a German Movie he was in.) The only other pic I could find of him was in his army uniform in a jeep. And it was'n't much better

RickPyz · 07-02-2004, 07:48 PM

Hans Breitenstrater, Ludwig Heymann & a new picture of Roy Harris

Buddy Whatshisname · 07-03-2004, 08:12 AM

This one of Al Hoosman was part of a bunch I traded with a guy for. I think he got it off the internet.

Buddy

crusadecat · 07-03-2004, 03:32 PM

Thanks Buddy I can now add a pic of Al that doesn't have him looking like Leatherface from Texas Chainsaw. ; )

Buddy Whatshisname · 07-04-2004, 09:07 AM

Does anyone have a better photo of 20s heavyweight Erminio Spalla than the one I've attached?

Buddy

LeeSkye · 07-04-2004, 11:34 AM

Buddy Whatshisname, thanks for Spalla-another hard to find fighter!

I have tried to focus and tweak it a little to bring out more detail.

LeeSkye · 07-04-2004, 11:48 AM

And I had a little time to tweak Jack Dorval and Hans Brietenstrater. Thanks to all for the pics.

LeeSkye · 07-04-2004, 01:45 PM

WW Soldier Bartfield

LeeSkye · 07-04-2004, 02:01 PM

HW Ken Lakusta

07-01-2004, 03:04 PM	#521
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	paul samson-korner, although from this pic, he may turn into a werewolf during a full moon Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 07:09 PM.

07-01-2004, 03:15 PM	#522
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Amos Carlin Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 07:09 PM.

07-01-2004, 03:18 PM	#523
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	kid graves Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 07:09 PM.

07-01-2004, 03:20 PM	#524
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Jimmy Goodrich Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 07:09 PM.

07-01-2004, 03:36 PM	#525
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	trying to submit more than one at a time Horace "Soldier" Jones Ted Jamieson terry kellar Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 07:09 PM.

07-01-2004, 04:14 PM	#526
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	slient martin Ted moore owen phelps bob roper Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 07:10 PM.

07-01-2004, 04:26 PM	#527
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	bob sweeney Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 07:10 PM.

07-01-2004, 05:24 PM	#528
Buddy Whatshisname Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 115	Another of Korner, although yours is way better. Buddy Attached Images

07-01-2004, 07:16 PM	#529
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	My pic he looks like the wolfman and in yours he looks undead. What's wrong with this guy!!!!

07-01-2004, 07:57 PM	#530
Herrbear Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glendora, CA Posts: 28	If John Lester Johnson is just a notch below Sam Langford, then why is he rated a 4 and Sam is rated a 10? Last edited by Herrbear; 07-01-2004 at 08:02 PM.

07-02-2004, 07:47 PM	#532
crusadecat All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 830	Al Hoosman ( this is from a German Movie he was in.) The only other pic I could find of him was in his army uniform in a jeep. And it was'n't much better Attached Images

07-02-2004, 07:48 PM	#533
RickPyz Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 36	Hans Breitenstrater, Ludwig Heymann & a new picture of Roy Harris Attached Images

07-03-2004, 08:12 AM	#534
Buddy Whatshisname Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 115	This one of Al Hoosman was part of a bunch I traded with a guy for. I think he got it off the internet. Buddy Attached Images

07-03-2004, 03:32 PM	#535
crusadecat All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 830	Thanks Buddy I can now add a pic of Al that doesn't have him looking like Leatherface from Texas Chainsaw. ; )

07-04-2004, 09:07 AM	#536
Buddy Whatshisname Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 115	Does anyone have a better photo of 20s heavyweight Erminio Spalla than the one I've attached? Buddy Attached Images

07-04-2004, 11:34 AM	#537
LeeSkye All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Igloo Posts: 1,279	Buddy Whatshisname, thanks for Spalla-another hard to find fighter! I have tried to focus and tweak it a little to bring out more detail. Attached Images

07-04-2004, 11:48 AM	#538
LeeSkye All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Igloo Posts: 1,279	And I had a little time to tweak Jack Dorval and Hans Brietenstrater. Thanks to all for the pics. Attached Images

07-04-2004, 01:45 PM	#539
LeeSkye All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Igloo Posts: 1,279	WW Soldier Bartfield Attached Images

07-04-2004, 02:01 PM	#540
LeeSkye All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Igloo Posts: 1,279	HW Ken Lakusta Attached Images Last edited by LeeSkye; 07-04-2004 at 02:03 PM.