Utba

[CONN CHRIS]

Tile Hill Top Team claims:

• FW (1)Jesus Meneses 0-53-1 (0) *PRIME

Hey, he has a ring. I'd like to say that you can't go wrong with this one Ian, but...

At least he's been broken in for you.

[umk]

LHW (9)Tony Shucco 9-10-1 (0) *pre-prime
MW (5)Sugar Boy Nando 3-17-0 (1) *pre-prime
WW (7)Mike Sullivan 4-13-3 (3) *pre-prime
FW (2)Jackie Turpin 4-20-0 (2) *pre-prime
BW (4)Gerry Penalosa 4-15-1 (2) *pre-prime
FLY (5)Diosdado Gabi 0-0-0 (0) *beginning

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by Lee

Well I have completely retooled after another disappointing Season, but I think Chilton is headed in the right direction now. When Perez, Kilbane, Nelson, Cervera, Bruno and Peter hit Prime we should be set to contend for a playoff spot. Thomas Palmer performs way over his head for a 5 and Benny Bass has been solid as well. I think I finally have a good foundation in place and if I can get two Seasons out of Jermaine Taylor all the better.

I have Palmer as a 4 in my database and he retired from the LBA with a 21-23-3 record .. not too bad. Also he did get a UD10 win over Solly Smith.

[SAL]

Roster Cuts

Stockholm's Finest relese:

• MW (3)Steven Bendall 1-19-0 (0) *pre-prime
• FW (4)Bobby Pacquiao 9-24-1 (3) *pre-prime

[Tommysixfingers]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Tile Hill Top Team claims:

• FW (1)Jesus Meneses 0-53-1 (0) *PRIME

Hey, he has a ring. I'd like to say that you can't go wrong with this one Ian, but...

At least he's been broken in for you.

Broken in like in his nose and his spirit?

[SAL]

TRADES

The Bald Beavers send WW (5)Dave Green 39-46-3 (24) *PRIME and a 3rd rounder to Bears Unstable for Fly (7)Peter Kane 7-13-2 (5) *pre-prime


WAIVER CLAIMS

The Dublin Guards claim:

• LW (1)Wayman Dawson 0-0-0 (0) *beginning

Oakland Assassins claim:

• WW (7)Floyd Mayweather Sr. 27-28-7 (17) *PRIME

Chilton Roughnecks claim:

• WW (4)David Kamau 4-16-0 (4) *pre-prime

Left Jab Inc. claims:

• WW (1)Joey Limas 1-25-0 (1) *pre-prime (2nd choice)

Hoosier Playboys claim:

• Fly (1)Willy Salazar 0-19-1 (0) *pre-prime

McCune Mitt Slingers claim:

• Fly (1)Lee Sandoval 0-0-0 (0) *beginning

Muckboys claim:

• HW (2)Lee Oma 0-0-0 (0) *beginning

The Waiver Wire is OPEN once again and will close at 4 pm CST 5/17/07.

New Waiver Rank

1. The Nobodies
2. Cawkney Crusaders
3. Punching Bags
4. Boxing Kangaroos
5. Undisputed Champions
6. Juggernaut
7. Iceteaboxing
8. Hebron Haymakers
9. Tomato City
10. 420th Street Gym
11. MexiVilles
12. Bears Unstable
13. Bonner Springs Bald Beavers
14. Tile Hill Top Team
15. Stockholm's Finest
16. Brazilian Barbarians
17. The Dublin Guards
18. Oakland Assassins
19. Chilton Roughnecks
20. Left Jab Inc.
21. Hoosier Playboys
22. McCune Mitt Slingers
23. Muckboys

The draft pool and waiver rank and traded draft picks post has been updated.
I'm currently working on the rosters and they should be complete in the next 20 minutes.

[SAL]

ROSTER CUTS

McCune Mitt Slingers release:

• BW (7)Alphonse Halimi 9-10-2 (3) *pre-prime
• Fly (5)Pornswan Porprammok 0-0-0 (0) *beginning

Hebron Haymakers release:

• LHW (5)Yawe Davis 30-35-5 (11) *PRIME

Rosters, draft pool,and traded draft picks post has been updated.

[Romdawg88]

Well, it nice to finally have my roster all set. SAL can rest a bit easier now with one last guy to deal with.

[Romultiltus]

Season 5 should easily break the record for most active 1-rated fighters in UTBA history

[SAL]

jbergey and I have been in heavy discussion over implementing a Minor League system for the UTBA. Here is a proposal we drew up and I'm putting it out for some discussion before we take a league wide vote on it.
(A big thanks to jbergey as this was his idea and for his help in putting this together)

In order to give teams a chance at aging young prospect fighters and prepare them for the UTBA, this is a proposal to institute a Minor League system for the UTBA.

Each team in the UTBA would have their own Minor League team. UTBA teams will be allowed to move fighters back and forth from their UTBA team and their Minor League team as often as they wish during the course of the regular UTBA season. Any request to move a fighter between the Minors and the UTBA must be submitted to the commissioner by Thursday night at 8 pm CST before the start of each scheduled UTBA week by PM.

The last time you will be allowed to move fighters between the Minors and the UTBA team during a season will be on Thursday at 8 pm CST before the start of week 10 (last week of the season) in the UTBA. This will happen at the same time as the last waiver wire deadline for the UTBA season.

There will be a one time initial 8 round draft for the minors get the Minor League rosters filled. The current draft pool of fighters will be used for this draft. There will be no subsequent drafts for the Minor Leagues after it has been started.

Owners may also supplement their Minor League Team with fighters from the UTBA by draft, trade or the use of the free agent waiver wire during a season.

If at anytime a fighter in the minors is displaced for whatever reason (e.i. trade, draft pick, waiver wire), the displaced fighter will be placed in the UTBA Free Agent Pool immediately.


Rules for the Minor Leagues

• Only fighters at beginnng or pre-prime age stage may be used in the Minor Leagues.

• Minor League teams (roster) will consist of 8 fighters. One fighter in each of the original 8 weight classes and will not be allowed to have any fighter rated below (3) or two fighters rated higher than an (8).

• Minor League teams will have a maximum team cap rating of 48 points.

• Minor league matches will follow the same format as the UTBA with the exception that a fighter will only fight one time in a team match instead of two times.

• Scoring for the Minor League teams will be the same as the UTBA.

• Minor League teams will have their own schedule that will consist of 10 team matches per season.

• All bouts and aging of fighters competing in the minors will be counted in their overall career.

• Any fighter in the Minors that reaches the age of PRIME must immediately be placed on the big roster or enter the Free Agent pool and be made available for waiver claims to all owners. For any owner that loses a fighter reaching Prime, he must fill this vacancy immediately.

A. Any fighter that reaches Prime status while in the Minors, the team owner will be notified by the commissioner by PM and will have 48 hours to respond stating their intentions of whether to move the fighter up to the Big Leagues or release him to the Free Agent pool. If the commissioner receives no response from an owner within 48 hours, the commissioner will use his best judgement and make the necessary roster moves for said owner.

[SAL]

In the proposal/rules posted above for running a minor league in the UTBA.........they were written as such so the minor league would not interfere with normal league operations. Any suggestions are welcome to the above proposal but with limits as to what can be done and not done so they won't screw up the league.

[Romdawg88]

Like I've told you SAL, I think you two have done a great job putting this thing together and I don't really see anything that needs to be changed.

[Bronx Bomber 15]

Originally Posted by SAL

In the proposal/rules posted above for running a minor league in the UTBA.........they were written as such so the minor league would not interfere with normal league operations. Any suggestions are welcome to the above proposal but with limits as to what can be done and not done so they won't screw up the league.

I love it. I would however, like to see 1's and 2's allowed in the farm system. If we're having to use those guys on our teams, at least we can bring them to a higher level first.
Either way it sounds like a good idea.

[Romultiltus]

The UTBA Minor League is a good idea and obviously a lot of thought was put into it, but personally I really do not think the league needs to become more complicated now. You guys can shoot me if you want, but here are my thoughts against the Minor League:

• The UTBA is just evolving to the point where fighters are going to age beyond Prime which sets into motion a new set of rating rules regarding the fighters. I fully support this and think it will help lengthen careers of our favorite fighters.
• Speaking completely selfishly, the record keeping is going to get even more time-consuming and difficult for me. Keep in mind that I am not complaining about the current workload, but another 10 bouts a week involving 192 more fighters is really going to tough to keep up with (even when the league goes to 2-weeks per round)
• This will accelerate the speed at which we chew through the fighter database.
• The Minor League just seems like a way to protect prize fighters and still be able to tailor your roster on a weekly basis based on the opposing team without the risk of possibly losing fighters in the waiver wire. Example: Tomato City decides to move a high-rated rated Beginning fighter to the minors and replace him with a 3-rated scrub in the FLY divison because the opponent has a very high chance of winning anyways. Tomato City then finds what weight class the opponent is weak in and then replaces a scrub in that division on his roster with a higher rated "minor league" guy to have a better chance at winning. This will result in too many manufactured mismatches instead of what we have now.
• An alternative to this (which I also do not support) would be expanding the roster from 16 to 24 (3 per weight class) and increasing the total cap - 105 (Major League Cap) plus 48 (Minor League Cap). Each team would still only have 2 fighters per weight class in action each week - but would have to adhere to the "Gametime" cap of 105. Here again, this would protect fighters, would not have the age restrictions of the Minor League mentioned above, would not chew up the fighter database faster and would allow managers to pick and choose what mismatches they would like each week. I could handle this option much better from a stats-guy perspective as there would not be an additional 96 bouts each week.

Overall, I don't think that we need to change anything - but if it goes to a vote, I would say "no" to the Minor League addition, but may consider the "Alternative" plan outlined above. Sorry for the sour grapes, but do we really need to make sweeping changes after each season?

Dave (Romultiltus - Tomato City)

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Tile Hill Top Team claims:

FW (1)Jesus Meneses 0-53-1 (0) *PRIME
Hey, he has a ring. I'd like to say that you can't go wrong with this one Ian, but...



At least he's been broken in for you.

Originally Posted by Tommysixfingers

Broken in like in his nose and his spirit?

This is very funny. You had Mercurio on the floor on that one.

[CONN CHRIS]

I like the idea of a minor league a lot and think the plan that Jeremy and Scot have worked up is great. I do wonder though if we are making this all too complicated too fast.

[bigMatt]

I like it too, but wish we'd come up with it before I traded all my studs away.

[bigMatt]

Speaking of Mercurio, Bonner Springs has seen the run on prized 1 rated fighters. Knowing that Ciaramitaro is not in this season's plans, the Beavers have graciously granted his request for release.

[mh2365]

I think if we do this there needs to be a limit on how many times you can bring them up or send them down. Maybe you can only do it at the 1/2 way mark of the season. I'm not a big fan of not knowing who I'm facing in the next bout. It would be good to have a reserve of young fighters ready to step in who have aged a little ... granted it would take them forever to make it to prime in the minors.

That said I wouldn't mind adding more fighters to my team. If I had a say I would rather increase the cap by 16 to 20 and add a pound for pound division like was suggested earlier.

I'm game for whatever though. Record keeping will be a nightmare though but since I'm not involved who cares.

Like I said my only exception would be unlimited roster moves I don't like that idea at all would kind of make the playoffs weird since you may not be facing the same team that made it to the playoffs. Even unlimited moves until week 6 or 7 would be better.

[mh2365]

Another thing is I don't like the 3 to 8 limit thing either .. we should be able to age 1 and 2 or fighters rated higher than 8.

I would set the cap at 52 or 53 also to mimic the majors which the average rating is 6.56.