The European football thread

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by Sdpm100

For me it is because Five show the games at 4.30am. That is the reason I can't get that in to it, although I know the background to MLS. Which as I'm not a fan of anyone is probably better.

That's no problem with me I work nights it just isn't football as I've been brought up with and know. It's like basketball and hockey, I have family in the US who used to live near Chicago and visited a couple of times and watched the Bulls and Blackhawks and I've watched basketball and hockey games here and it's totally different almost like different sports, that's the feeling I get with the EPL and MLS.

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Vauxhall Motors was set up as a workers team.

From www.vmfc.com/history.htm

It was around 4am I'd just watched 6 hours of football back to back you were lucky I could find my laptop nevermind read a website

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by bababui

I love the myth section. It was fun reading. Wigan did an amazing job going from L1 to the Premiership in just 1 season. Surely a very rare feat. And its cool that the fans have responded.

Hope they can avenge that 3-1 loss to Newcastle that sticks out like a sore thumb on the website.


The 3rd myth link isnt working.

Yeah the 3rd link doesn't work no idea why, yeah nobody expected them to do it round Wigan that's why the way they played in the premiership was a total shock.

When you look at the result looks like they were out played and I know other teams have bad luck but they reckon Wigan were in control and were winning 1-0 when they had to substitute both central defenders due to injury and then Newcastle got a dodgy penalty, this is a quote from a Newcastle site so the penalty wasn't sour grapes even they say it was a dodgy penalty.

"As another N'Zogbia cross dropped towards the back post, Chopra tumlbed suspiciously easily under Reto Ziegler.

Rennie (ref) saw no wrong doing, but defered to his near side linesman, who pointed to the spot"

Here's the link to the report.

http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/n...name_page.html

[Sdpm100]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

What kind of capacities are these new stadiums their building ?

Here's a table I've rustled up from Wikipedia for you, ukhs. I'm sure our Americans will be in a better position to answer properly, but it looks like they are all between 20,000 and 30,000.

Team		Stadium			Permanent Seating
Chicago		Toyota Park		20,000
Chivas USA	Home Depot Center	27,000
Colorado	Rapids Soccer Stadium	20,000 (2007)
Columbus	Columbus Crew Stadium	22,500
DC		Poplar Point Stadium	27,000 (2009)
Dallas		Pizza Hut Park		21,193
Houston		Future Stadium		20,000-25,000 (2009?)
Kansas City	none
Los Angeles	Home Depot Center	27,000
New England	none
New York	Red Bull Park		25,000 (2008)
Salt Lake	Sandy Stadium		20,000 (2008)
Toronto		National Soccer Stadium	20,000 (2007)

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Here's a table I've rustled up from Wikipedia for you, ukhs. I'm sure our Americans will be in a better position to answer properly, but it looks like they are all between 20,000 and 30,000.

Team        Stadium            Permanent Seating
Chicago        Toyota Park        20,000
Chivas USA    Home Depot Center    27,000
Colorado    Rapids Soccer Stadium    20,000 (2007)
Columbus    Columbus Crew Stadium    22,500
DC        Poplar Point Stadium    27,000 (2009)
Dallas        Pizza Hut Park        21,193
Houston        Future Stadium        20,000-25,000 (2009?)
Kansas City    none
Los Angeles    Home Depot Center    27,000
New England    none
New York    Red Bull Park        25,000 (2008)
Salt Lake    Sandy Stadium        20,000 (2008)
Toronto        National Soccer Stadium    20,000 (2007)

Thanks sdpm, glad their not going for like 50,000 stadiums, good starting point having around 20,000 capacity.

[ukhotstove]

Todays offering on live TV is an early kick off due to the Charity Shield being played later.

Crystal Palace 1 v 0 Leeds United

Selhurst Park, London.
Capacity 26,300.
Attendance 17,218.

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Crystal Palace may find it hard after this season as their parachute payments from the EPL stop after this season so promotion maybe a must for them, Leeds like Derby County yesterday are one of the sleeping giants of English football and have a great history.

Crystal Palace 4-5-1

28 GK G Kiraly
3 LB D Granville
5 CB M Hudson
6 CB L Cort
20 RB D Butterfield
19 RW T Soares
14 CM B Watson (booked 11 min) actually got booked for taking the free kick early what a stupid rule.
15 CM M Kennedy
7 LW J McAnuff (booked)
23 CM C Fletcher
8 ST J Scowcroft

Subs: 1 GK S Flinders, 2 CB M Lawrence, 9 ST D Freedman (Watson 45 min), 11 ST C Morrison (Soares 73 min) (goal 90 min), 18 CB G Borrowdale

Leeds 4-4-2

31 GK T Warner
2 RB G Kelly (booked)
3 LB S Crainey
26 CB M Kilgallon (booked)
6 CB P Butler
7 CM I Westlake
21 CM S Derry
14 RM S Stone
11 LM E Lewis
10 ST G Horsfield (sent off 15 min) punching a player
9 ST D Healy

Subs: 8 CM S Gregan, 15 CM F Richardson (Lewis 74 min), 17 LM S Carole (Stone 90 min), 22 ST I Moore (Healy 76), 28 ST R Blake

Ref: R Styles (Hampshire)

Very good game fair result would have been a draw, hopefully the Charity Shield will just be as good.

[ukhotstove]

Community Shield.

Chelsea v Liverpool

Millennium Stadium, Cardiff.
Capacity 72,500

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Chelsea

23 GK Cudicini
20 LB Paulo Ferreira
26 CB Terry
6 CB Ricardo Carvalho
5 L/CM Essien
14 RB Geremi
13 R/CM Ballack
8 CM Lampard
7 L/ST Shevchenko
11 ST Drogba
16 R/ST Robben

Subs: 40 GK Hilario, 12 CM Mikel, 18 LB Bridge, 19 CM Diarra, 21 ST Kalou, 24 RM Wright-Phillips, Mancienne.

Liverpool

25 GK Reina
3 RB Finnan
5 CB Agger
23 CB Carragher
6 LB Riise
16 RM Pennant
22 CM Sissoko
32 CM Zenden
11 ST Gonzalez
15 ST Crouch
10 LM Luis Garcia

Subs: 1 GK Dudek,4 CB Hyypia,8 CM Gerrard, 12 LB Aurelio, 14 CM Alonso, 17 ST Bellamy, 24 ST Sinama Pongolle

I wont post scores and such just in case people are on a tape delay, positions are where they have lined up in the game also big talking point is Chelsea have only sold half their ticket allocation.

[ukhotstove]

In your hands.

The greatest football competition in the world kicks off next week The FA Cup, anyway 3 local clubs are at home so was thinking of going to one of the games so for a bit of fun which game should I go to ?

FA Cup Extra Preliminary Round
Saturday 19th August 2006

Atherton LR v Parkgate
Daisy Hill v Winterton Rangers
Atherton Collieries v New Mills

Who knows maybe I'll go to a game in every round

[bababui]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Yeah but you can't smoke

Looks like you cant smoke anywhere or anytime in most of Europe anymore without the threat of losing your job


http://www.time.com/time/europe/maga...226062,00.html

Is it the boss's business if you have a cigarette after dinner? After an Irish job ad stipulated that "smokers need not apply," that


question was put to the European Commission, which decided that employers refusing to hire smokers do not breach European antidiscrimination laws.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

In your hands.

The greatest football competition in the world kicks off next week The FA Cup, anyway 3 local clubs are at home so was thinking of going to one of the games so for a bit of fun which game should I go to ?

FA Cup Extra Preliminary Round
Saturday 19th August 2006

Atherton LR v Parkgate
Daisy Hill v Winterton Rangers
Atherton Collieries v New Mills

Who knows maybe I'll go to a game in every round

Way to rub it in our faces.

Ill be devestated if Ramsbottom doesnt make it out of the preliminary qualifying round.

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by bababui

Looks like you cant smoke anywhere or anytime in most of Europe anymore without the threat of losing your job


http://www.time.com/time/europe/maga...226062,00.html

I go past a factory on my way to and from work and they can't even smoke on the factory premises they have to stand outside of the factory gates to smoke , alot of factories have smoking shelters round the back of their buildings so least they wont get wet having a smoke

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[ukhotstove]

I'm thinking Daisy Hill v Winterton Rangers I can pretty much walk there it's only about 1 - 1 1/2 from where I live.

[Jordan]

I've been reading lately, and it seems to me like Real Madrid are making a LOT of moves, or trying to at least. how common is that, because I'm jut getting into international soccer

[rangers85]

Originally Posted by Jordan

I've been reading lately, and it seems to me like Real Madrid are making a LOT of moves, or trying to at least. how common is that, because I'm jut getting into international soccer

Not too uncommon. The bigger clubs tend to make quite a few offseason moves that make a big splash, while the smaller clubs tend to make a decent amount that fly under the radar because they're free transfers. The smaller clubs probably make more since their players are usually signed more for 1 or 2 years.

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by Jordan

I've been reading lately, and it seems to me like Real Madrid are making a LOT of moves, or trying to at least. how common is that, because I'm jut getting into international soccer

Real Madrid pretty much change managers every season so every season a new manager comes in and wants his own team, as a Madrid manager your pretty much out of a job if you don't win La Liga and even then you could easily get fired unless you win the Champions League.

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by bababui

Way to rub it in our faces.

Ill be devestated if Ramsbottom doesnt make it out of the preliminary qualifying round.

They play Thackley AFC away, ain't going to Thackley for you though

[bababui]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

I'm thinking Daisy Hill v Winterton Rangers I can pretty much walk there it's only about 1 - 1 1/2 from where I live.

I'd go. A good football match isnt dependant on famous players.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

They play Thackley AFC away, ain't going to Thackley for you though

Is Thackly a dangerous place?

[ukhotstove]

No idea never been but I highly doubt it but it's a couple of hours away and the Daisy Hill ground I could probably see if I stood on top of the roof on my house

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by bababui

I'd go. A good football match isnt dependant on famous players.

I think you'd have to look long and hard to find a famous name in any of the FA Cup games this weekend, but and I know they only play up the road but never been to a Daisy Hill game so that's why I may go there.