Time Warp Baseball

[Y0DA55]

What happened to the league?

[DamnYankees]

Originally Posted by Y0DA55

What happened to the league?

Commish got a new job and moved, so we've been a little slow. We're still going, its just been slow for about 2 months.

[Vris]

Is the site down for anyone else?

[DamnYankees]

Originally Posted by Vris

Is the site down for anyone else?

Not for me.

[Vris]

Works now!

[plannine]

After 228 Minor League Home Runs, my relative (Wallace Stinson) finally made it to the big show. He appeared in one game, and now I cant find him on any roster....did he call it quits? get released? or just disappear to a field in Iowa?

[tward13]

Originally Posted by plannine

After 228 Minor League Home Runs, my relative (Wallace Stinson) finally made it to the big show. He appeared in one game, and now I cant find him on any roster....did he call it quits? get released? or just disappear to a field in Iowa?

Here you go:

http://southernbaseball.com/twb/p152.html

Wow, one game and didn't bat. Like Moonlight Graham.

[plannine]

Originally Posted by tward13

Here you go:

http://southernbaseball.com/twb/p152.html

Wow, one game and didn't bat. Like Moonlight Graham.

Thanks......(but where is he now - not on Philadelphia minor or major roster)

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by tward13

Here you go:

http://southernbaseball.com/twb/p152.html

Wow, one game and didn't bat. Like Moonlight Graham.

FUnny how art repeats life.

[tward13]

Originally Posted by plannine

Thanks......(but where is he now - not on Philadelphia minor or major roster)

He could be sitting in the DFA block. Somewhere that doesn't show on the roster screen. Opening day should be tomorrow (I think) so he'll pop up somewhere.

[fhomess]

Yes, Stinson is currently DFA by Philly. He was in AAA at the end of last season, so I'm not sure why he'd be DFA now.

[canadiancreed]

ok to get this fired back up again, I'll be starting to re-create the reports that we used to have in this thread before the big crash. Unlike last time, I've learned to save them

So without furthur ado, let's start where we left off, the 1959 Post Season.

[canadiancreed]

1959 Postseason

World Series Champs - Cincinnati Reds 4th NL Pennant, 3rd WS Title

AL Champs - New York Yankees 16th AL Pennant


AL Murph Award: John Nolting, BAL, 24-11, 3.55 ERA, 90 BB, 227 K - 2nd POY, 1st to win in both leagues!
NL Murph Award: Joe Helton, LAD, 23-10, 2.63 ERA, 60 BB, 297 K - 4th straight POY!

AL BOY: Arnie Stewart, NYA, .300, 45 HR, 133 RBI, 1.009 OPS
NL BOY: Abraham Noel, LAD, .382, 35 HR, 114 RBI, 1.081 OPS

AL ROY: 3B Larry Long, DET, .240, 30 HR, 91 RBI, .793 OPS
NL ROY: SP Anthony Davidson, CHN, 14-14, 3.61 ERA, 89 BB, 94 K

AL MotY: Sunny Davie, CHA
NL MotY: Bobby Martin, SFG

AL Comeback Player: SP Bryce Ostrander, CLE, 14-8, 3.89 ERA, 68 BB, 150 K
NL Comeback Player: SP Frank Vamos, SFG, 18-13, 4.15, 67 BB, 75 K

World Series MVP: Hank Makris 2-0, 0.00 ERA, 4 BB, 8K

AL AVG: .363, Kenneth Whitt, BAL
NL AVG: .382, Abraham Noel, LAD

AL HR: 49, John Degal, BAL
NL HR: 40, Christopher Kobeck, LAD

AL RBI: 133, Arnie Stewart, NYA
NL RBI: 114, Abraham Noel, LAD

AL Runs: 111, Paul Lett, CLE & Arnie Stewart, NYA
NL Runs: 110, Abraham Noel, LAD

AL OPS: 1.015, John Degal, BAL
NL OPS: 1.081, Abraham Noel, LAD

AL SB: 51, Mark Kreitenberg, BOS
NL SB: 39, Leo Emig, LAD

AL ERA: 2.71, Carpenter Erickson, NYA
NL ERA: 2.63, Joe Helton, LAD

AL Wins: 24, Joe NOlting, BAL
NL Wins: 23, Joe Helton, LAD

AL K's: 328, Lukas Dietrich, CLE
NL K's: 297, Joe Helton, LAD

AL Saves: 26, Cal Granger, KCA
NL Saves: 28, Chris Delp, CIN


Major League Records (if old record was long-standing, it's listed in parenthesis) - Records will be updated onc I acquire the almanacs for this year

n/a

League Records

n/a

Team Records

n/a

Milestones

n/a

Gold Gloves

1958 American League Winners

Pitcher: Walter Pond, DET
Catcher: Henry Cruz, BAL
First Base: James Klock, BOS
Second Base: Mike Kreitenberg, BOS - 2 straight!
Third Base: Chris Javel, BOS - 2 straight!
Shortstop: Morris Lutske, BOS
Leftfield: Ferdinand Perez, CHA
Centerfield: Roger McNicholas, KCA - 2 straight!
Rightfield: George Unruh, BOS


1958 National League Winners

Pitcher: Josh Nicely, PHI
Catcher: Biff Betters, CIN
First Base: Shigeo Oh, SFG
Second Base: Clarence Gaines, SFG
Third Base: Dave Feeley, STL - 2 straight!
Shortstop: Dennis Ward, CIN - 2 straight, sixth Gold Gove in nine years!
Leftfield: Eddie Vancini, MLN
Centerfield: Cliff Wynne, CHN
Rightfield: Chris Hulliberger, CHN - 9 straight, 10 in eleven years![/QUOTE]

[metsgeek]

Thanks for helping us catch up, creed

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by metsgeek

Thanks for helping us catch up, creed

not a prob. I'll probably miss something along the ways, but if you see anything that I've missed or made a mistake on, post away.

Also if you'd like to help out, please view this thread here -> http://www.southernbaseball.com/modu...er=asc&start=0

It'll keep everything centralized so stuff sin't double posted.

[canadiancreed]

Franchise Histories

BLUE - Won World Series
GREEN - Won Pennant but No WS Played
BLACK - Won Pennant

Boston Red Sox - 5 Pennants, 3-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1949), Last WS Title (1945)
Most Wins 101 (1945), Most Losses 96 (1959)
Winning Seasons 18, Losing Seasons 37, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 4 Seasons (1951-54)
Longest Losing Streak: 12 Seasons (1906-17)
1900-10: 2-8
1911-20: 2-7-1 - 1918
1921-30: 2-5-3
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 6-4 - 1943, 1944, 1945, 1949
1951-60: 4-5
Last 10 Seasons 5-5
Last 5 Seasons 0-5

Chicago White Sox - 7 Pennants, 1-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1950), Last WS Title (1920)
Most Wins 102 (1920), Most Losses 91 (1910)
Winning Seasons 30, Losing Seasons 32
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1913-21)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1904-12)
1900-10: 1-9 - 1903
1911-20: 8-2 - 1917, 1919, 1920
1921-30: 6-4 - 1930
1931-40: 5-5 - 1938
1941-50: 6-4 - 1950
1951-60: 1-8
Last 10 Seasons 2-8
Last 5 Seasons 0-5

Cleveland Indians - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1942), Last WS Title (1942)
Most Wins 107 (1910), Most Losses 108 (1954)
Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 27, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1906-18)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1907, 1910
1911-20: 9-1 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 2-8
1931-40: 3-5-2
1941-50: 2-7-1 - 1942
1951-60: 5-4
Last 10 Seasons 5-4-1
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

Detroit Tigers - 6 Pennants, 5-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1955), Last WS Win (1955)
Most Wins 106 (1954), Most Losses 96 (1941)
Winning Seasons 29, Losing Seasons 30
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1945-1956)
Longest Losing Streak: 13 Seasons (1932-1944)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 3-7
1921-30: 6-4 - 1928
1931-40: 1-9
1941-50: 6-4 - 1948
1951-60: 7-2 - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955
Last 10 Seasons 8-2
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

New York Yankees - 16 Pennants, 9-7 in WS, Last Pennant (1959), Last WS Win (1956)
Most Wins 107 (1956), Most Losses 95 (1946)
Winning Seasons 34, Losing Seasons 23, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1930-1941)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1915-21, 1943-49)
1900-10: 7-3 - 1905, 1908, 1909
1911-20: 3-7 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 5-4-1 - 1923, 1927
1931-40: 10-0 - 1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940
1941-50: 2-7-1
1951-60: 7-2 - 1956, 1959
Last 10 Seasons 8-2
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

Kansas City Athletics Athletics - 8 Pennants, 3-5 in WS, Last Pennant (1958), Last WS Title (1958)
Most Wins 99 (1951, 1957), Most Losses 97 (1917)
Winning Seasons 31, Losing Seasons 26, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1925-33)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1912-21)
1900-10: 8-2 - 1906
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 8-2 - 1925, 1926, 1929
1931-40: 4-5-1 - 1932
1941-50: 3-7
1951-60: 7-1-1 - 1951, 1957, 1958
Last 10 Seasons 8-1-1
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

Baltimore Orioles - 5 Pennants, 1-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1946), Last WS Title (1922)
Most Wins 93 (1946), Most Losses 98 (1930)
Winning Seasons 23, Losing Seasons 34, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 4 Seasons (1956-1959)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1910-16)
1900-10: 5-5 - 1901, 1902, 1904
1911-20: 2-7-1
1921-30: 4-6 - 1922
1931-40: 4-5-1
1941-50: 4-6 - 1946
1951-60: 4-5
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

Washington Senators - 6 Pennants, 4-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1947), Last WS Title (1941)
Most Wins 93 (1941), Most Losses 108 (1953, 1959)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 31, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1936-1947)
Longest Losing Streak: 12 Seasons (1948-Present)
1900-10: 3-6-1
1911-20: 4-6 - 1913
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1924
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1937
1941-50: 7-3 - 1941, 1947
1951-60: 0-9
Last 10 Seasons 0-10
Last 5 Seasons 0-5



Milwaukee Braves - 4 Pennants, 2-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1931), Last WS Title (1931)
Most Wins 105 (1928), Most Losses 102 (1915)
Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 35, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1930-1938)
Longest Losing Streak: 14 Seasons (1914-27)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1904, 1910
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 2-8 - 1928
1931-40: 8-1-1 - 1931
1941-50: 2-7-1
1951-60: 3-6
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Los Angelas Dodgers - 9 Pennants, 4-5 in WS, Last Pennant (1958), Last WS Title (1943)
Most Wins 94 (1943), Most Losses 97 (1951, 1952)
Winning Seasons 35, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1934-46)
Longest Losing Streak: 8 Seasons (1947-1954)
1900-10: 3-7
1911-20: 7-2-1 - 1919
1921-30: 7-3 - 1926
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1934, 1935, 1939, 1940
1941-50: 6-4 - 1943
1951-60: 5-4 - 1956, 1958
Last 10 Seasons 5-5
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

Chicago Cubs - 7 Pennants, 3-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1955), Last WS Title (1938)
Most Wins 105 (1955), Most Losses 97 (1925)
Winning Seasons 30, Losing Seasons 22
Longest Winning Streak: 14 Seasons (1901-14)
Longest Losing Streak: 8 Seasons (1943-1950)
1900-10: 10-0 - 1905
1911-20: 7-3 - 1913, 1917
1921-30: 3-7
1931-40: 7-3 - 1936, 1937, 1938
1941-50: 1-9
1951-60: 8-1 - 1955
Last 10 Seasons 8-2
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

Cincinnati Reds - 4 Pennants, 3-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1959), Last WS Title (1959)
Most Wins 100 (1957), Most Losses 95 (1906)
Winning Seasons 32, Losing Seasons 25, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1913-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1933-42)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 9-1 - 1920
1921-30: 4-6
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 5-4-1 - 1947
1951-60: 7-1-1 - 1957, 1959
Last 10 Seasons 7-1-2
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

San Francisco Giants - 9 Pennants, 2-7 in WS, Last Pennant (1952), Last WS Title (1921)
Most Wins 95 (1944), Most Losses 98 (1957)
Winning Seasons 25, Losing Seasons 30, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 6 Seasons (1918-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1908-14)
1900-10: 1-8-1 - 1907
1911-20: 5-5 - 1918
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1922
1931-40: 5-3-2
1941-50: 6-3-1 - 1941, 1942, 1944
1951-60: 3-6 - 1951, 1952
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Philadelphia Phillies - 13 Pennants, 9-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1949), Last WS Title (1949)
Most Wins 104 (1949), Most Losses 99 (1956)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 29, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1924-1935)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1915-23)
1900-10: 7-2-1 - 1901, 1902, 1903
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 7-3 - 1925, 1927, 1929, 1930
1931-40: 5-4-1 - 1932, 1933
1941-50: 6-3-1 - 1945, 1946, 1948, 1949
1951-60: 0-8-1
Last 10 Seasons 1-8-1
Last 5 Seasons 0-5

Pittsburgh Pirates - 4 Pennants, 1-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1912), Last WS Win (1909)
Most Wins 92 (1908), Most Losses 103 (1928)
Winning Seasons 19, Losing Seasons 39, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1908-12)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1913-19, 1931-1937)
1900-10: 4-6 - 1908, 1909
1911-20: 2-8 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 2-7-1
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 3-7
1951-60: 5-4
Last 10 Seasons 5-5
Last 5 Seasons 3-2

St. Louis Cardinals - 9 Pennants, 3-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1954), Last WS Win (1950)
Most Wins 103 (1915), Most Losses 99 (1936)
Winning Seasons 30, Losing Seasons 25, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 7 Seasons (1946-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1930-39)
1900-10: 3-6-1 - 1906
1911-20: 6-2-2 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 8-2 - 1923, 1924
1931-40: 1-9
1941-50: 8-2 - 1950
1951-60: 5-4
Last 10 Seasons 6-4
Last 5 Seasons 1-4


Last Pennant:

1912 - PIT
1931 - BSN
1942 - CLE
1946 - SLA
1947 - WSH
1949 - BOS, PHI
1950 - CHA
1952 - NYG
1954 - STL
1955 - CHN, DET
1958 - KCA, LAD
1959 - NYA, CIN

Last World Series Championship:

1909 - PIT
1920 - CHA
1921 - NYG
1922 - SLA
1931 - BSN
1938 - CHN
1941 - WSH
1942 - CLE
1943 - BKN
1945 - BOS
1949 - PHI
1950 - STL
1955 - DET
1956 - NYA
1958 - KCA
1959 - CIN

[ifspuds]

Thought I'd give this a bump, since the league is returning to life.

[scprideandms]

Keep us posted, IIRC still have an ancestor or 2 in it????

[jdw]

Originally Posted by scprideandms

Keep us posted, IIRC still have an ancestor or 2 in it????

Vodka Allen retired in the middle of 1971. 374 minor league HR's (four straight seasons of 50, one year hitting 72). He finally got a chance in the bigs with expansion, and ended up hitting 222 major league HR's.

Rye Allen played in the big for 13 seasons with the Tigers and Mets. 174 career HR's, he won three gold gloves.

Tommy "Teetotaler" Allen has played for nine years with the Twins. Five gold gloves from 1966-71 thanks to his cannon arm behind the plate. Sort of a respectable bat, looks worse than it was due to the low offense of the 60s. Was great in the 1968 World Series as the Twins won the title.

Matt reduced the "next generation" of Allens to two, since the prior generation sort of got out of hand (and none of them after Bourbon Jr. really turned out to do very well). The two are:

J.B. "Whiskey IV" Allen

5th overall pick in the 1969 draft, he comes from the erractic Whiskey Jr. branch of the family. He's taken a few ratings hits since the draft, and now in the expansion Royals farm system. Looks like he might turn out to be as good as his grandfather, the infamous Whiskey Jr.

Adam "Bourbon III" Allen

Looking at a discussion with Matt on the Allens, that was the tentative name Matt was looking at for Bourbon Jr's son. He looks penciled for the 1974 draft, with the standard Allen Birthday of July 4, being born in 1952. He'd be 21 when hitting the draft, coming out of college ("First Allen to go to college."). The name Adam would be from Bourbon Jr's White Sox teammate and best friend in 1952, future Hall of Famer Adam Sardina. The "Bourbon Branch" always seemed to be the more sober branch of the family, hence his dad naming the boy after a friend rather than the typical booze ones. :P

Bourbon and Bourbon Jr. both made it to the Hall of Fame (as of course did the original Whiskey Allen himself). Matt planned on concentraiting a crapload of talent in young Bourbon Allen III to the point that he likely will be the #1 overall pick. Scouts who've seen the freshman pitch for LSU this season raved about his amazing control for one so young, and the wicked movement he has.

"He reminds me so much of his father that it's like going back 20 years in a time machine."
-Yankees GM John Young (former teammate of Bourbon Jr.)



So even if Whiskey IV turns out like his father and grandfather (i.e. drinking his career away), the family line looks to be in good hands when Bourbon III pops up in 1974.


John

[scprideandms]

I think I need to do a familty tree, even I had forgotten about Vodka (the player AND the drink.... Can't wait for this to get going again