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Old 06-24-2007, 06:55 AM   #461
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GLASGOW PICAYUNE
Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue VI | 01 June, 1904
May Round-Up

Ingo In Eight

Gävle, Sweden: Norse Heavyweight champ Steffen Tangstad was no match for up-and-comer Ingemar Johansson. The champ's days were numbered from the opening bell as Ingo proved to be too strong and too fast for the 12-4-3 Tangstad. To his credit, he ate leather for seven rounds without so much as wobbling but his tell tale swollen face suggested that he couldn't go much further. A Johansson cross in the eighth dropped him like a grain sack and brought the fight to a close. Ingo was up 69-65, 70-64, 69-65 when the ten count was issued.



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Fighter Country W L D KO C. Ingemar Johansson Sweden 13 0 0 10 1. Emil Andreason Denmark 13 0 0 5 2. Tommy Skovgaard Denmark 11 1 0 8 3. Knute Hansen Denmark 11 1 1 4 4. Olle Tandberg (a) Sweden 33 9 1 14 5. Steffan Nielsen Denmark 30 16 5 10 6. Ingvardt Jorgensen Greenland 10 2 0 4 7. Gunnar Barlund Finland 34 14 4 17 8. Arne Andersson Sweden 8 3 0 2 9. Otto Von Porat Sweden 10 1 1 4
10. Steffen Tangstad Norway 12 4 3 6
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1901-08-04 Gunnar Barlund TKO6 Gunnar Fredrikson - Joensu, Finland
1903-01-20 Gunnar Barlund TKO5 Olaf Eidesgaard - Oulu, Finland
1903-05-22 Gunnar Barlund TKO8 Steffen Tangstad - Tuku, Finland
1904-02-29 Steffen Tangstad TKO10 Gunnar Barlund - Narvik, Norway
1904-04-30 Steffen Tangstad D10 Knute Hansen - Floro, Norway
1904-05-29 Ingemar Johansson KO8 Steffen Tangstad - Gävle, Sweden
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Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue VI | 01 June, 1904
May Round-Up

Nedzanani Next In Line

Pretoria, South Africa: The AABU Strawweight belt has changed hands in six consecutive title fights; the latest holder is South African Muvhuso Nedzanani. Sizwe Sinyabi took the belt from Sithembele Kibiti last November and looked as though he might be a rare victorious champion in the early going. Nedzanani out-worked the champion in round one and two but tasted the canvas in the third frame thanks to a blinding combination. Kibiti roared to life and dominated the middle stanzas but began to tire quickly. Nedzanani wobbled the champ a few times through the championship rounds and both men held on to each other at the end and their breath as the cards were read. Judge Richard Houck scored it 114-113 for Sinyabi, Howard Leigh-Watkin saw it 114-113 for Nedzanani. The decisive card from Jean Pierre Van Imschoot read 115-113 for the new champ Nedzanani. With such a razor thin margin, it is hard to believe that the revolving door that is the AABU Strawweight championship will slow down any time soon.



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Fighter Country W L D KO C. Muvhuso Nedzanani (a) South Africa 24 2 0 18 1. Mzikayse Foslare South Africa 30 9 6 12 2. Said Arif Algeria 7 5 5 1 3. Paul Oulden (b) South Africa 16 0 1 6 4. Sithembele Kibiti South Africa 27 4 1 19 5. Uuke Wambua Benin Peoples Republic 25 9 2 3 6. Yera Xola Zambia 13 26 4 2 7. Sizwe Sinyabi South Africa 22 4 1 12 8. Mawanda Sineko South Africa 14 0 1 1 9. Kuselekile Gada South Africa 33 11 2 12
10. Phindile Ngingi South Africa 14 1 1 5
(a) North African Champion
(b) South African Champion


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1901-01-01 Mzikayse Foslare MD12 Simphiwe Mfaniso - Soweto, South Africa
1901-02-14 Mzikayse Foslare UD12 Qalhata Lumumba - Johannesburg, South Africa
1901-08-18 Mzikayse Foslare D12 Martin Mahlangu - Cape Town, South Africa
1901-11-17 Mzikayse Foslare UD12 Martin Mahlangu - Johannesburg, South Africa
1902-05-10 Sithembele Kibiti UD12 Mzikayse Foslare - De Aar, South Africa
1903-04-27 Thandabanta Ggola UD12 Sithembele Kibiti - East London, South Africa
1903-05-01 Sithembele Kibiti TKO6 Thandabanta Ggola - East London, South Africa
1903-10-10 Sizwe Sinyabi UD12 Sithembele Kibiti - De Aar, South Africa
1904-05-03 Muvhuso Nedzanani SD12 Sizwe Sinyabi - Pretoria, South Africa
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Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue VI | 01 June, 1904
May Round-Up

Ingo In Eight

Gaulle, Sweden: Norse Heavyweight champ Steffen Tangstad was no match for up-and-comer Ingemar Johansson. The champ's days were numbered from the opening bell as Ingo proved to be too strong and too fast for the 12-4-3 Tangstad. To his credit, he ate leather for seven rounds without so much as wobbling but his tell tale swollen face suggested that he couldn't go much further. A Johansson cross in the eighth dropped him like a grain sack and brought the fight to a close. Ingo was up 69-65, 70-64, 69-65 when the ten count was issued.



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Fighter Country W L D KO C. Ingemar Johansson Sweden 13 0 0 10 1. Emil Andreason Denmark 13 0 0 5 2. Tommy Skovgaard Denmark 11 1 0 8 3. Knute Hansen Denmark 11 1 1 4 4. Olle Tandberg (a) Sweden 33 9 1 14 5. Steffan Nielsen Denmark 30 16 5 10 6. Ingvardt Jorgensen Greenland 10 2 0 4 7. Gunnar Barlund Finland 34 14 4 17 8. Arne Andersson Sweden 8 3 0 2 9. Otto Von Porat Sweden 10 1 1 4
10. Steffen Tangstad Norway 12 4 3 6
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1901-08-04 Gunnar Barlund TKO6 Gunnar Fredrikson - Joensu, Finland
1903-01-20 Gunnar Barlund TKO5 Olaf Eidesgaard - Oulu, Finland
1903-05-22 Gunnar Barlund TKO8 Steffen Tangstad - Tuku, Finland
1904-02-29 Steffen Tangstad TKO10 Gunnar Barlund - Narvik, Norway
1904-04-30 Steffen Tangstad D10 Knute Hansen - Floro, Norway
1904-05-29 Ingemar Johansson KO8 Steffen Tangstad - Gaulle, Sweden
Sweet! I wondered when Ingo would have his shot against the Norwegian cementsack

Very nicely done Chris...as always.

Edit: Just one question Chris. Where in Sweden do you find the city/town of Gaulle? Could it be that you mean Gävle?

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Sweet! I wondered when Ingo would have his shot against the Norwegian cementsack

Very nicely done Chris...as always.

Edit: Just one question Chris. Where in Sweden do you find the city/town of Gaulle? Could it be that you mean Gävle?
Tandberg should be easy pickings for the EBF title too.

Gävle! That's it. I had it as Gaule, looked at it twice and added the extra 'l'.

Just a bastardized anglo miss-spelling.

Edit: Fixed it, thanks. Also, the locations that I use are in many cases not historical fight locations. I just grabbed 10 or 12 city names from each country to add to my universe.
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The depth of your uni is huge Christopher.

How many regional titles have you got?
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The depth of your uni is huge Christopher.

How many regional titles have you got?
World Titles: 1

Major Geographic Titles: 5

Minor, regional, national titles: 45

Divisions: 17


867 titles in all, almost as absurd as the real thing!
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Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue VI | 01 June, 1904
May Round-Up

Lin Gets Another Crack

Bocas de Toro, Panama: In perhaps the biggest upset of the year, Panamanian Silverio Barcenas stunned the formerly undefeated Rocky Lin with a first round knock out in March. Lin will have one shot at redemption and reclaiming his world strawweight title this June. A second loss to Barcenas would badly damage this once rising star's career.


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Fighter Country W L D KO C. Silverio Barcenas Panama 32 3 2 26 1. Rocky Lin Taiwan 28 1 0 18 2. Fernando Martinez (a) Mexico 28 0 1 21 3. Sugar Ray Mike Philippines 36 5 1 28 4. Oh-Kon Kim (b) South Korea 30 1 0 24 5. Rey Hernandez Mexico 41 3 1 33 6. Satoru Abe (c) Japan 34 8 1 19 7. Fernando Luna Mexico 35 4 0 25 8. Jorge Mata (d) Spain 34 6 0 24 9. Rodel Mayol Philippines 24 2 0 23
10. Putt Ohyuthanakorn (e)Thailand 29 1 0 29
(a) North American Boxing Federation Champion
(b) Asian and Pacific Boxing Council Champion
(c) Wajin Bokushingu Yuushou (Japanese Champion)
(d) Prussian Champion; Campeon Boxeo de Espana (Spain)
(e) Thai Champion


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1902-01-10 Luis Briones KO3 Rey Hernandez - Mexico City, Mexico
1902-09-08 Rocky Lin UD15 Luis Briones - Oluanpi, Taiwan
1903-03-07 Rocky Lin UD15 Sugar Ray Mike - Hua-Lian, Taiwan
1903-09-08 Rocky Lin MD15 Jorge Mata - Maolin, Taiwan
1904-03-04 Silverio Barcenas KO1 Rocky Lin - Su-ao, Taiwan
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Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue VI | 01 June, 1904
May Round-Up

More Hardware For the Sands Family

Portsea, Australia: The titles keep piling up for the Sands family but Ritchie had been the only one of the six brothers who had yet to land a belt. He was bitterly disappointed when he lost a tough fight to Jim Hall for the APBC Middleweight title vacated by brother Dave and hoped to right the ship with a chance at Pradeep Singh's British Empire Belt. The Indian proved too fast for Sands in the early going as he fought outside piled up points en route to taking a commanding 68-64 lead with only three rounds to go. Freddie Steele barked at his fighter between rounds and sent him out with instructions to get inside and put Singh down or he would go home empty handed again. Digging deep, Sands ate some leather but followed orders closing ground on his opponent. Persistent body shots finally had an effect as Singh winced and dropped to a knee late in the round. The champ stood up but leaned on Sands to the bell and was still laboring to pull air into his lungs between rounds. Sands took the same approach in the ninth, turning Singh's sides red with welts before stabbing him in the sternum at the two-minute mark. The champ collapsed and took a near full count to climb to his feet. Between rounds, Singh's corner pleaded with him to just stay away while the challenger's corner told their man that his only hope was to finish Singh off. The bell sounded for the tenth and Sands rushed from the start throwing one haymaker after another. Singh, who could barely lift his arms, finally caught one that sent him to the canvas for a third time. Up at seven but out on his feet, Signh managed to stay erect until round's end. The hometown crowd hushed as the cards were read: 95-92, 95-92,96-92 all for Sands! Amazingly, Sands had managed a six-point swing over the final three rounds and it was just enough to hand him his long awaited first title.



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Fighter Country W L D KO C. Ritchie Sands Australia 31 3 1 23 1. Dave Sands (a) Australia 36 3 0 33 2. Billy McCarthy Australia 13 0 0 6 3. Sakio Bika Zambia 13 0 0 3 4. Jerry Jerome Australia 13 0 0 8 5. Ambrose Palmer Australia 13 0 0 3 6. Ron Richards Australia 13 0 0 9 7. Jake Ahearn England 12 0 0 1 8. Eugene Brosseau Canada 10 0 0 9 9. Mark Hart England 12 0 0 4
10. Pradeep Singh India 14 2 0 9
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1902-02-04 Pradeep Singh TKO4 Drew Fox - Calcutta, India
1902-05-30 Pradeep Singh TKO7 Drew Fox - Darwin, Australia
1903-02-02 Pradeep Singh UD10 Josh Clenshaw - Mackay, Australia
1904-05-09 Ritchie Sands UD10 Pradeep Singh - Portsea, Australia
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Way to go Richie bring back the belt to the first family of boxing, that was a heck of a comeback. So how long do you think he can hold on to the belt.
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Way to go Richie bring back the belt to the first family of boxing, that was a heck of a comeback. So how long do you think he can hold on to the belt.
Not long, but I may baby him a bit - I love the Sands boys!

I did a short write up on them (universe history as opposed to real world) in the April, 1904 GP.

I'm debating about having Dave clean up my Danza problem in June as opposed to a real defense. I'll sleep on it.
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Man, since you're a fan of the Sands I would suggest you think twice before feeding Dave to that killing machine that is Danza. I look forward to Tony showing the world who's the boss and taking his rightful place at the top of the MW heap.
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Tony Danza is a world beater. I'm sure Dave is shaking in his boots over a possible matchup with him

In all seriousness, the Sands brothers are the real first family of boxing. No current or past family can say they had six brothers prizefighting all in the same era. Their uniqueness makes them a great part of any boxing universe.
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Still ducking Danza

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Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue VI | 01 June, 1904
May Round-Up

Sands-Kalambay On For June

Alice Springs, Australia: World middleweight champion Dave Sands will have have his hands full and perhaps more as he defends his title against Sumbu Kalambay of the Congo. Kalambay is the undefeated African and Arabian Boxing Union champion and holds a decision win over Mpush Makembi (the man who beat Sands three times).


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Fighter Country W L D KO C. Dave Sands Australia 36 3 0 33 1. Sumbu Kalambay (a) Congo 22 0 1 8 2. Jack Dempsey (b) Ireland 21 0 0 13 3. Victor Zalazar (c) Argentina 26 5 0 24 4. Mpush Makembi South Africa 31 3 1 20 5. Hein Domgorgen (d) Germany 23 3 0 18 6. Arthur Abraham Armenia 23 2 0 20 7. Paul Pender (e) Massachusetts (US) 23 1 0 10 8. Lester Ellis (f) Australia 25 1 0 21 9. Ritchie Sands (g) Australia 31 3 1 23
10. Tony Danza (h) New York (US) 37 17 2 27 11. Alfie Sands (i) Australia 36 5 1 25 12. Vince Hawkins England 37 6 4 11 13. Jim Hall Australia 30 9 0 24 14. Rito Ruvalcaba Mexico 37 5 0 32 15. Alejandro Berrio Colombia 35 5 1 31
(a) African and Arabian Boxing Union Champion
(b) European Boxing Federation and Irish National Champion
(c) South American Boxing Commission Champion
(d) Buno Deutscher Berufsboxer (German) and Prussian Champion
(e) North American Boxing Federation Champion
(f) Queensland State Champion
(g) British Empire Champion
(h) United States Boxing Writers Association Champion
(i) Asian and Pacific Boxing Council, Australian National Boxing Federation and South Seas Champion


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1902-01-17 Mpush Makembi SD15 Dave Sands - Sydney, Australia
1902-06-14 Mpush Makembi SD15 Dave Sands - Cape Town, South Africa
1903-03-10 Mpush Makembi Tech SD8 Dave Sands - Sydney, Australia
1903-06-12 Dave Sands TKO14 Mpush Makembi - Hobart, Australia
1903-09-29 Dave Sands KO11 Cheo Morjon - Alice Springs, Australia
1904-03-12 Dave Sands KO9 Victor Zalazar - Noumea, New Caledonia
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BOOO, tell Dave to grow a pair. This is disgraceful I demand that Sands be stripped of his title since he has proven that he isn't brave enough to face the best fighter in the division. Tony should turn his sights to Ritchie and Alfie and retire them maybe that would finally force Dave to give him the shot Tony deserves.
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BOOO, tell Dave to grow a pair. This is disgraceful I demand that Sands be stripped of his title since he has proven that he isn't brave enough to face the best fighter in the division. Tony should turn his sights to Ritchie and Alfie and retire them maybe that would finally force Dave to give him the shot Tony deserves.
If Tony can win an international bout this June (which I doubt), I will be sure that he is granted a title shot. It could be ugly.
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Sporting Edition | Volume V, Issue VI | 01 June, 1904
May Round-Up

Norris Running Out of Opponents

San Diego, California: California State Jr Middleweight Champion Terry Norris ran his record to 18-0-0 with a bone-crushing hook in the second round of his title defense over Floyd Weaver. Norris nearly put the challenger out of commission in the opening frame with a half dozen unanswered blows to the head but was thwarted by the bell. Unsure as to what day it was, Weaver walked straight into another hook only twenty seconds into the second. It is hard to remember how it was that Weaver managed to last until the ninth frame when the two met last August. Beyond Rocky Mosley, Jr there are precious few appealing match-ups left for Norris in the West; look for him to explode onto the international scene before the year is out.


California State Jr Middleweight Top 10 - 01 June, 1904

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Fighter State W L D KO C. Terry Norris (a) California 18 0 0 16 1. Joel Salas California 24 13 3 6 2. Fernando Yguado New Mexico 7 5 0 4 3. Rocky Mosley, Jr Nevada 16 0 0 1 4. Lazaro Littlefield Arizona 4 7 3 0 5. Kirby Holdsworth New Mexico 6 8 2 1 6. Chris Linson, Sr New Mexico 12 4 0 4 7. Lalawethika Hiawatha Arizona 4 15 2 0 8. Omer Osteen Oregon 4 10 3 1 9. Floyd Weaver California 5 8 1 0
10. Sylvester Larson California 2 14 2 0
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1902-07-08 Terry Norris TKO6 Joel Salas - San Francisco, California
1903-01-30 Terry Norris TKO7 Joel Salas - Los Angeles, California
1903-08-20 Terry Norris TKO9 Floyd Weaver - Hollywood, California
1904-05-20 Terry Norris KO2 Floyd Weaver - San Diego, California
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Can't see Norris having any trouble with Rocky Mosley Jr. at all. Norris needs to move on and start taking on tougher cats.
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Can't see Norris having any trouble with Rocky Mosley Jr. at all. Norris needs to move on and start taking on tougher cats.
He'll be banging heads with Winky Wright, Bronco McKart, Freddie Little, Julian Jackson and Vernon Forrest over the next few years. He has already defeated Little to take the NABF title and a defense against Winky or Jackson should be due by the fall of 1904.

The JMW division should be a good one for me pretty soon. Here is a peek at the talent around Norris. Of those visable, only Freddie Little has enough fights to qualify for a world ranking. It should be fun.

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what PP did you start your guys at?
They are supposed to start at 200 although it looks like McKart slipped through at 1,000 somehow - I guess that I missed him on entry.

I fix them when I notice but it doesn't make a huge difference if I miss something like that. If I left McKart where he is, by the time he has 15 to 20 fights his pp will only have gone up slightly because he will be getting very little for each win. If I fix it, he will get more for his wins and will be at about the same place after 15 fights. At 15, he will get ranked regionally and may slot in a little on the high side but once he gets to 20 fights where he'll be ranked internationaly it should all level out.

With so many thousands of active fighters, the pp do level out as they reach the 20 fight point because they settle into a range of fighting as contenders, fringe or fodder. PP certainly needs some looking at though in TBCBIII.

In posting that, I did however notice that Gerald Reed is a bogus rating at 8. Who's knows where that came from but I have adjusted him a bit.
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