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The Top 20 rankings have been updated.
Question.......Does anybody pay attention to the top 20 rankings? If there is no interest in seeing the rankings, I'll quit posting them. I quit posting them for most of this season and nobody said a word which makes me think nobody looks at them. I'll be glad to keep the rankings updated if there is interest. |
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My man Shavers is 19..I know he has had a tough second half of the season..but look at some of the records and guys ahead of him. Cmon,is this Jose and the WBC ranking these guys...LOL...just joking Sal. I love the rankings. I dont know why I havent been able to see them..that is really strange. I just want everyone to know who does any kind of records or stats...I love em. They make the league fun and interesting. I just hope that my little late season rebound carries over into next season. It really would be nice to be included in all the playoff talk..instead of being counted on as an easy win. As for all the talk about scoring and the playoff system. I understand and agree that individual matches should count like Claybor has stated...but really guys, for the Mexivilles not to be in the playoffs after winning every match?? Boxing is an individual sport..but we have made this a TEAM league. I dont know the solution and I think the league is great,but if a team goes undefeated they should be in the playoffs...dont ya agree??
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You do all know I'm just blowing smoke trying to keep my team focused so they don't do their normal last week meltdown right?
The only way I really get mad is if I beat Juggernaut by 2 points this week. If I go 10-0 miss the playoffs and lose the division to a team who is 7-3 and I beat twice .... then I might be upset. Right now I'm only upset at Lee ... why did Chilton have to play me so tough and just roll over and play dead against Juggernaut?????? |
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I think that we discussed this around the same time that I was floating my idea to put unanimous decisions on a par with KOs. Someone (Dan, I believe) even posted what the standings would look like if we went by W/L record.
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I know that the current method for determining the standings has been in use since the UTBA started, but I have to say that it is flawed if the MexiVilles manage to go 10-0 and still miss the playoffs.
This is a team sport and his team as a whole has been better than their opponents every week. I don't think they should miss out on the playoffs simply because they weren't as good at beating up on the weaker teams they faced. Here is a formula I was thinking of as I drove home from work today. Take the team's points scored in their matches and divide it by ten. Then add two points for each matchup victory and one point for each matchup draw. This would make winning each matchup worth something extra. With this formula, the standings would be like so as at the end of week nine: bonner 460, 8, 62 tile 423, 7, 56.3 boxing 382, 4, 46.2 stockholm 263, 0, 26.3 bears 436, 5.5, 54.6 mccune 363, 6, 48.3 brazilian 383, 4.5, 47.3 long 257, 0, 25.7 tomato 454, 8, 61.4 muckboys 411, 7, 55.1 left jab 317, 2, 35.7 dublin 286, 2, 32.6 hebron 444, 8, 60.4 icetea 442, 8, 60.2 nobodies 301, 2, 34.1 420th 247, 0, 24.7 undisputed 395, 5, 49.5 oakland 388, 5, 48.8 hoosier 310, 4, 39 cawkney 331, 2.5, 38.1 mexivilles 424, 9, 60.4 juggernaut 428, 6.5, 55.8 punching 359, 4, 43.9 chilton 275, 0, 27.5 With the exception of the MexiVilles leading their division, there's hardly any difference. Another proposal would be to add a second wildcard team, seed the three division champs and two wildcards from #1-#5 according to points scored and have #4 and #5 clash with the reward a spot in the divisional playoffs. |
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So you wouldnt add the 2 points for the victory until that match score has been tallied? Again, I must say that this Mexiville problem is not going to be a problem in the future. Teams are not going to be able to beat teams by 30-40 points once the teams even out. We are being hasty if we think we need to switch anything. Compare the scores of teams that have been around since the start that are playing each other to the scores of teams in their 4th year playing teams in their 1st and 2nd years? That gap will obviously narrow.
[quote=kenyan_cheena;2169798]I know that the current method for determining the standings has been in use since the UTBA started, but I have to say that it is flawed if the MexiVilles manage to go 10-0 and still miss the playoffs. This is a team sport and his team as a whole has been better than their opponents every week. I don't think they should miss out on the playoffs simply because they weren't as good at beating up on the weaker teams they faced. Here is a formula I was thinking of as I drove home from work today. Take the team's points scored in their matches and divide it by ten. Then add two points for each matchup victory and one point for each matchup draw. This would make winning each matchup worth something extra.[quote=kenyan_cheena;2169798] Last edited by jbergey22; 04-24-2007 at 08:12 AM. |
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Location: louisville
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Really I'm not upset about it I know how the scoring went prior to the season. It's such a slim chance of me going undefeated and missing the playoffs. I would have to defeat Juggernaut by 3 points or less. My team tends to get blown out in the final week so it probably won't matter.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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It's probably best if we keep it the way it has been, I guess. It does make it exciting waiting to see if particular teams will score enough points to qualify for the playoffs or not.
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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This is 100% not a team sport. In a "team" sport there are teams playing against one another. This is a sport in which the players work individually, not as a team. Each fight should have merit. If you don't want to see a 10-0 team not in the payoffs, then stop looking at the won-loss records as they are meaningless to the league. Once again I think something is definitely wrong if you want to compare a 41-40 to a 61-20 win in a sport in which each boxer competes individually and not as a team. It's not that big a deal, and all in fun, so if we vote for a change fine, but I dont see any problem at all in how we do things.
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Location: louisville
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I don't think there should be a vote on changing the scoring .. it's fine how it is. This is just a very weird case.
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It is definitely weird. I think it will all be moot when your team wins again by about 10.
I am happy to have made it to first and be in the running down to the end. Either way a good team must sit and watch the post season festivities. Good luck to the Mexivilles.
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Location: louisville
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Home arena advantage .. we'll see if it was worth 9 points or not. I haven't changed my team too much since our first meeting.
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