New Non-HW Boxers Rated - Page 23

CONN CHRIS · 11-27-2004, 02:22 PM

Thanks, to be honest though, I cannot take the credit. I played the board version of tbcb for 15 to 18 years and picked up fighter ratings all over the place. Once I had converted all the hand made cards to excell spreadsheets and printed them on card stock I lost track of which ones I had rated myself. I did rate alot of lower weight fighters in the mid eighties, but I do not think any of these were from that round of rating.

Still rooting around for all my old cards, I will post anything that I have yet to find in other available databases.

Cheers and a big thanks to all the other posters - I am getting spoiled at the speed by which I can accumulate ratings. Back in the day, all we had were classifieds in the "All-Star Replay".

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 12:56 AM

Juan Domingo Cordoba - Argentine Junior Flyweight. Held WBO, WBC International, South American and Argentine Jr. Fly belts at various times. 34-6-3 overall record.

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 12:57 AM

Young-Jin Kim - Korean Junior Flyweight. One time Korean Champ, lost one bid at WBC title, overall record of 20-4-1

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 01:00 AM

Ladislao "Speedy" Vasquez - Mexican that fought between Junior Flyweight, Flyweight and Junior Bantam (rated here as a Jr Fly). Basicaly a trial horse but did hold the WBC Continental Americas Flyweight belt at one time. (I think that they make up some of these titles just to sell tickets - or is that just too cynical?)

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 01:11 AM

This is the file I use, I tweaked the one in the game just a bit to more acurately reflect the power he has shown. It moved him from an eight to a nine which seems more like it to me. Flyweights don't generaly stay at the top as long as he has and his power and aggresiveness are likely the reason in my opinion.

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 02:54 PM

Paul Weir - British Straw/Jr. Fly/Flyweight (rated as a Jr. Fly) Had a promissing quick start but ate a lot of canvas toward the end. Unfortunately, he realy needs to be rated based on what he was at the end with only 20 career fights. Record of 14-6-0 - like many in these lower weights, fought for a lot of minor belts in his short career and won a few of them.

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 03:36 PM

Jesper David Jenson - Flyweight/Jr Bantam from Denmark (rated as a Jr Bantam). Jenson fought exclusively in Denmark but had some fairly good competition come to him. He held the European Flyweight title and defended 3 times. Also, 5 time defender of the IBC Jr Bantam belt and one-time holder of the IBC Flyweight belt. Jesper had good power at this weight class amassing a 38(10)-2-1 career record. I may be giving him too much benefit of the doubt in this rating with respect to his power given that he didn't swim with the really big fish, but the testing results I had give him solid wins with a correct KO% against fair competition and he fades when facing the bigger guns but has a good shot at them.

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 04:01 PM

Juan Antonio Torres - Panamanian Flyweight with a big punch, a glass chin and no defense to speak of. Career record of 21(18)-11-1; was put on his back in each of his last four fights. Under testing, he ends up winning less than 50% of his bouts but has the ability to KO virtualy anyone in the weight class from time-to-time. Definately not an opponent for you schedule on the way up.

LeeSkye · 11-28-2004, 06:36 PM

CONN CHRIS, appreciate your additions-always good to have more input to this great game.

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 09:09 PM

Carlos Salazar - Argentine Flyweight. One time Aregtine, South American and WBO Flyweight Champion. Also held the IBF Junior Bantamweight title. Gave Harold Grey his first defeat (before Grey moved up in weight) Good defensive boxer who comilped a record of 47(19)-8-3

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 10:24 PM

Falan Sakarrin - Thai Flyweight and southpaw. Career record of 54(23)-4-2 Defended the IBF Pan Pacific title five times, Defended his WBF title seven times and defended the IBF Strawweight title seven times. Lost a world title bid to Nelson Dieppa and most recently lost to Burgos in May of 2004

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 10:27 PM

Raul Rios - Mexican Flyweight and Junior Flyweight Champ. A typical slugger with few defensive skills that goes down without too much trouble. Rios was one of Mark Johnson's KO victems. Career record of 27(15)-16-2

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 10:31 PM

Jose Bonilla - Venezuelan Flyweight Champ and good boxer that held the WBA title from 1996 to 1998. Died too young at the age of 34 after a severe asthma attack. Career record of 27(14)-5-1

CONN CHRIS · 11-28-2004, 11:04 PM

Samson Dutchboy Gym - Thai Legend and undefeated WBF Junior Bantam Champ. Gym took the vacant WBF title in his fourth pro fight and held it until he retired eight years later. Overall record of 43(36)-0-0. I know that he didn't get out of Thailand much and fought more than a few chumps along the way, but I was a little surprised that he wasn't in the stock database. Maybe I missed something or he is burried under one of his allias monikers. Even fighting often less than par opponents, 43 and zip is still impressive. No bad nights (or a lot of payoffs; I must admit that I am totaly ignorant to the Thai Mafia, if there is one

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CONN CHRIS · 11-29-2004, 01:03 AM

Yong-Soon Chang - Korean Flyweight

CONN CHRIS · 11-29-2004, 01:10 AM

Raul Juarez - I'm in the Holiday spirit, so here is the other player in the 1999 Nutcracker Suite with Mark Johnson. Juarez was the Mexican Flyweight Champ but has leved off in recent years. Losing most recently in a WBC JBW bout in September. Career Record to-date of 32(15)-10-0

From Boxingtimes.com 11/19/99

"Starting the 4th with a murderous barrage, Johnson looked to end the fight. Responding with a succession of low blows, Juarez fouled repeatedly. Complaining to the ref about Juarez tactics, Johnson was told to "box on". So the feisty Johnson retaliated, burying a left hook deep in Juarez's protective cup. Falling to the floor in a delayed reaction move, the grimacing Juarez refused to continue and after a nine minutes of laying on the canvas and wiggly around playing Hamlet, he was removed from the ring by stretcher. Either he has a glass groin or it was a acting performance worthy of anything "Fainting" Phil Scott or Luis Santana, two of the ring's more accomplished thespians, could ever produce. "

I've been trying to mimmick a glass groin with tbcb but can't seem to perfect it

shane6969 · 11-29-2004, 06:46 AM

Conn chris,

If my memory serves me correctly, I think Samson Dutchboy Gym was in the "official" TF2001 database.

Shane.

CONN CHRIS · 11-29-2004, 07:31 AM

HTML Code:

If my memory serves me correctly, I think Samson Dutchboy Gym was in the "official" TF2001 database.
 
Shane.

If anyone has that file, I would greatly appreciate it being posted.

Thanks

Cheers

hamed · 11-29-2004, 04:24 PM

Conn Chris,

I think he's in there as Samson 3K Battery.

CONN CHRIS · 11-29-2004, 04:30 PM

Thanks, I'll double check when I get home. I do not believe it is in my data base (I knew about that alias). Unfortunately, I think he fought under a couple of other names too. I need to round up all the aliases and do a double check, but I would still love a posted file if anyone has it.

Thanks all

EDIT:

Nope, don't have him in the database no matter what I call him.

11-27-2004, 02:22 PM	#441
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Thanks, to be honest though, I cannot take the credit. I played the board version of tbcb for 15 to 18 years and picked up fighter ratings all over the place. Once I had converted all the hand made cards to excell spreadsheets and printed them on card stock I lost track of which ones I had rated myself. I did rate alot of lower weight fighters in the mid eighties, but I do not think any of these were from that round of rating. Still rooting around for all my old cards, I will post anything that I have yet to find in other available databases. Cheers and a big thanks to all the other posters - I am getting spoiled at the speed by which I can accumulate ratings. Back in the day, all we had were classifieds in the "All-Star Replay". __________________ Check Out My Cards!

11-28-2004, 12:56 AM	#442
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Juan Domingo Cordoba Juan Domingo Cordoba - Argentine Junior Flyweight. Held WBO, WBC International, South American and Argentine Jr. Fly belts at various times. 34-6-3 overall record. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 12:57 AM	#443
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Young-Jin Kim Young-Jin Kim - Korean Junior Flyweight. One time Korean Champ, lost one bid at WBC title, overall record of 20-4-1 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 01:00 AM	#444
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Ladislao Vasquez Ladislao "Speedy" Vasquez - Mexican that fought between Junior Flyweight, Flyweight and Junior Bantam (rated here as a Jr Fly). Basicaly a trial horse but did hold the WBC Continental Americas Flyweight belt at one time. (I think that they make up some of these titles just to sell tickets - or is that just too cynical?) __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 01:11 AM	#445
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Pongsaklek Wongjongkam This is the file I use, I tweaked the one in the game just a bit to more acurately reflect the power he has shown. It moved him from an eight to a nine which seems more like it to me. Flyweights don't generaly stay at the top as long as he has and his power and aggresiveness are likely the reason in my opinion. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 02:54 PM	#446
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Paul Weir Paul Weir - British Straw/Jr. Fly/Flyweight (rated as a Jr. Fly) Had a promissing quick start but ate a lot of canvas toward the end. Unfortunately, he realy needs to be rated based on what he was at the end with only 20 career fights. Record of 14-6-0 - like many in these lower weights, fought for a lot of minor belts in his short career and won a few of them. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 03:36 PM	#447
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Jesper David Jenson Jesper David Jenson - Flyweight/Jr Bantam from Denmark (rated as a Jr Bantam). Jenson fought exclusively in Denmark but had some fairly good competition come to him. He held the European Flyweight title and defended 3 times. Also, 5 time defender of the IBC Jr Bantam belt and one-time holder of the IBC Flyweight belt. Jesper had good power at this weight class amassing a 38(10)-2-1 career record. I may be giving him too much benefit of the doubt in this rating with respect to his power given that he didn't swim with the really big fish, but the testing results I had give him solid wins with a correct KO% against fair competition and he fades when facing the bigger guns but has a good shot at them. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 04:01 PM	#448
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Juan Antonio Torres Juan Antonio Torres - Panamanian Flyweight with a big punch, a glass chin and no defense to speak of. Career record of 21(18)-11-1; was put on his back in each of his last four fights. Under testing, he ends up winning less than 50% of his bouts but has the ability to KO virtualy anyone in the weight class from time-to-time. Definately not an opponent for you schedule on the way up. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 06:36 PM	#449
LeeSkye All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Igloo Posts: 1,279	CONN CHRIS, appreciate your additions-always good to have more input to this great game. __________________ What If Championship Boxing

11-28-2004, 09:09 PM	#450
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Carlos Salazar Carlos Salazar - Argentine Flyweight. One time Aregtine, South American and WBO Flyweight Champion. Also held the IBF Junior Bantamweight title. Gave Harold Grey his first defeat (before Grey moved up in weight) Good defensive boxer who comilped a record of 47(19)-8-3 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 10:24 PM	#451
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Falan Sakarrin Falan Sakarrin - Thai Flyweight and southpaw. Career record of 54(23)-4-2 Defended the IBF Pan Pacific title five times, Defended his WBF title seven times and defended the IBF Strawweight title seven times. Lost a world title bid to Nelson Dieppa and most recently lost to Burgos in May of 2004 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 10:27 PM	#452
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Raul Rios Raul Rios - Mexican Flyweight and Junior Flyweight Champ. A typical slugger with few defensive skills that goes down without too much trouble. Rios was one of Mark Johnson's KO victems. Career record of 27(15)-16-2 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 10:31 PM	#453
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Jose Bonilla Jose Bonilla - Venezuelan Flyweight Champ and good boxer that held the WBA title from 1996 to 1998. Died too young at the age of 34 after a severe asthma attack. Career record of 27(14)-5-1 __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-28-2004, 11:04 PM	#454
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Samson Dutchboy Gym Samson Dutchboy Gym - Thai Legend and undefeated WBF Junior Bantam Champ. Gym took the vacant WBF title in his fourth pro fight and held it until he retired eight years later. Overall record of 43(36)-0-0. I know that he didn't get out of Thailand much and fought more than a few chumps along the way, but I was a little surprised that he wasn't in the stock database. Maybe I missed something or he is burried under one of his allias monikers. Even fighting often less than par opponents, 43 and zip is still impressive. No bad nights (or a lot of payoffs; I must admit that I am totaly ignorant to the Thai Mafia, if there is one ) __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-29-2004, 01:03 AM	#455
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Yong-Soon Chang Yong-Soon Chang - Korean Flyweight __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-29-2004, 01:10 AM	#456
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Raul Juarez Raul Juarez - I'm in the Holiday spirit, so here is the other player in the 1999 Nutcracker Suite with Mark Johnson. Juarez was the Mexican Flyweight Champ but has leved off in recent years. Losing most recently in a WBC JBW bout in September. Career Record to-date of 32(15)-10-0 From Boxingtimes.com 11/19/99 "Starting the 4th with a murderous barrage, Johnson looked to end the fight. Responding with a succession of low blows, Juarez fouled repeatedly. Complaining to the ref about Juarez tactics, Johnson was told to "box on". So the feisty Johnson retaliated, burying a left hook deep in Juarez's protective cup. Falling to the floor in a delayed reaction move, the grimacing Juarez refused to continue and after a nine minutes of laying on the canvas and wiggly around playing Hamlet, he was removed from the ring by stretcher. Either he has a glass groin or it was a acting performance worthy of anything "Fainting" Phil Scott or Luis Santana, two of the ring's more accomplished thespians, could ever produce. " I've been trying to mimmick a glass groin with tbcb but can't seem to perfect it __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 04-13-2007 at 01:50 PM.

11-29-2004, 06:46 AM	#457
shane6969 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bendigo, Australia Posts: 1,013	Conn chris, If my memory serves me correctly, I think Samson Dutchboy Gym was in the "official" TF2001 database. Shane. __________________ Hatred is an acid that corrodes the soul

11-29-2004, 07:31 AM	#458
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	HTML Code: If my memory serves me correctly, I think Samson Dutchboy Gym was in the "official" TF2001 database. Shane. If anyone has that file, I would greatly appreciate it being posted. Thanks Cheers <!-- / message --><!-- sig --> __________________ Check Out My Cards!

11-29-2004, 04:24 PM	#459
hamed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,073	Conn Chris, I think he's in there as Samson 3K Battery.

11-29-2004, 04:30 PM	#460
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,049	Thanks, I'll double check when I get home. I do not believe it is in my data base (I knew about that alias). Unfortunately, I think he fought under a couple of other names too. I need to round up all the aliases and do a double check, but I would still love a posted file if anyone has it. Thanks all EDIT: Nope, don't have him in the database no matter what I call him. __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 11-29-2004 at 11:30 PM.