Detroit Tigers 2014 Season Thread - Page 23

David Watts · 07-19-2014, 07:09 PM

Alright boys, let's get it together. Ugh! I sure hope this isn't another bad stretch kicked off by the Indians.

Tram2Whitaker · 07-21-2014, 10:34 PM

Listening to the radio today, and they were talking about which arms need to go, what the Tigers need to get before the deadline. Truth is, there is nobody out there to be gotten. The Benoit rumor has been tossed around, but $15.5 million is a bit much to take on; especially if we plan to re-sign/replace Max Scherzer. Personally, I thought since Boston is out of it, we could rent Koji Uehara for the rest of the year.

I'm just going to make my sale (knowing it is somewhat unrealistic). Acquiring David Price makes sense:
1) Keep him away from the Yankees, or any other team the Tigers may face in the playoffs
2) Five Aces beats 4 of a kind
3) Leverage in Scherzer negotiations; we can sign Price, or Max doesn't matter to me.
4) Move Smyly to the bullpen where he shone last season
5) Friedman and Maddon are self-described idiot savants, can spot talent in our organization that other teams (or the Tigers) overlook

gbwitheyes · 07-21-2014, 10:44 PM

For the love of things holy, never sign a 38 year old closer.

gbwitheyes · 07-21-2014, 10:49 PM

In fact, maybe the Tigers are going about this all wrong. Forget relief pitchers. It's not like we can find any good ones.

We should have nothing but starters. As it stands the starter of today only pitches six innings, if that. Have one starter pitch five innings, pull them and put in the next starter to pitch the final four.

CONN CHRIS · 07-22-2014, 09:00 AM

If I am looking at the injury list correctly, Hanrahan was re-upped on the 60 day list three days ago - season is gonzo for him.

David Watts · 07-22-2014, 09:23 AM

I like the idea of Price as well. Just not so sure I love the idea of Don Kelly playing 3B everyday.

cephasjames · 07-22-2014, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

If I am looking at the injury list correctly, Hanrahan was re-upped on the 60 day list three days ago - season is gonzo for him.

Broken down rental.

Oisk · 07-22-2014, 03:33 PM

Scherzer ? Re-sign, there is no replace......

Its becoming abundantly clear he is our #1

cephasjames · 07-22-2014, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oisk

Scherzer ? Re-sign, there is no replace......

Its becoming abundantly clear he is our #1

I don't disagree with the bold at all. But I think he is because he fell into it rather than earning it. Verlander earned the title Ace. Max is there because Verlander is not. I think that's part of the reason Detroit didn't offer him the money he was hoping for. I also think that what's going on with Verlander backs up Detroit's cautiousness towards signing Max to a record deal: even the best go down hill. Verlander at least proved himself over years of greatness. Max has had a year of greatness with one and a half good years. In my mind that doesn't warrant the record setting contract Boras and Max are presumably looking for.

cephasjames · 07-24-2014, 07:47 AM

Detroit Tigers get reliever Joakim Soria from Texas for prospects | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

Bullpen looks to be much better now. I don't think that DD should stop there though.

David Watts · 07-24-2014, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

Detroit Tigers get reliever Joakim Soria from Texas for prospects | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

Bullpen looks to be much better now. I don't think that DD should stop there though.

I like this deal for what it should do for the bullpen, but wow is the cupboard getting bare. Really thinking this is a win or else year for the Tigers. They could lose Max next year, Victor and unless he agrees to play for next to nothing I see no reason for Hunter to be back. Fingers crossed that Soria continues to pitch like he has all season and I really hope his presence is what's needed to get Nathan going.

David Watts · 07-24-2014, 09:09 AM

The last time the Tigers traded a pitcher named Thompson to the Rangers it was part of that monster deal bringing Juan Gonzalez to town so he could cry about it being too hard to hit home runs. Still hate that deal because they got rid of Frank Catalonotto. I always liked him.

cephasjames · 07-24-2014, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Watts

I like this deal for what it should do for the bullpen, but wow is the cupboard getting bare. Really thinking this is a win or else year for the Tigers. They could lose Max next year, Victor and unless he agrees to play for next to nothing I see no reason for Hunter to be back. Fingers crossed that Soria continues to pitch like he has all season and I really hope his presence is what's needed to get Nathan going.

This is most definitely a 'win now' deal.

CONN CHRIS · 07-30-2014, 07:52 AM

Well, at least Soria has given me reason to be kinder in thought toward Mr Coke.

David Watts · 07-30-2014, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Well, at least Soria has given me reason to be kinder in thought toward Mr Coke.

Anyone else starting to think it's a Detroit jinx, something in the water etc going on. Soria has been lights out for the Rangers. He dons a Tiger uniform and turns into Richie Lewis???? Nathan instantly stinks as a Tiger. UGH!

David Watts · 07-31-2014, 11:58 AM

Dombrowski must hate Billy Beane. The dude just keeps making that Fister trade look dumber and dumber. The A's look pretty damn invincible.

cephasjames · 07-31-2014, 02:10 PM

The A's pitching staff is fantastic now. I'm a bit leery about their offense now though. Cespedes was a pretty big bat for them. Gomes will not be anywhere close to as good a bat.

Green & Gold Heart · 07-31-2014, 02:33 PM

Vogt/Gomes platoon can come close to Cespedes' production at the plate. His defense in LF*? Not so much.

*Even though he takes horrible routes. He makes up for that with his cannon.

cephasjames · 07-31-2014, 04:52 PM

Just heard the Tigers just got David Price!!

David Watts · 07-31-2014, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

Just heard the Tigers just got David Price!!

Oh heavens, what did they give up?

07-21-2014, 10:34 PM	#442
Tram2Whitaker All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 619	Listening to the radio today, and they were talking about which arms need to go, what the Tigers need to get before the deadline. Truth is, there is nobody out there to be gotten. The Benoit rumor has been tossed around, but $15.5 million is a bit much to take on; especially if we plan to re-sign/replace Max Scherzer. Personally, I thought since Boston is out of it, we could rent Koji Uehara for the rest of the year. I'm just going to make my sale (knowing it is somewhat unrealistic). Acquiring David Price makes sense: 1) Keep him away from the Yankees, or any other team the Tigers may face in the playoffs 2) Five Aces beats 4 of a kind 3) Leverage in Scherzer negotiations; we can sign Price, or Max doesn't matter to me. 4) Move Smyly to the bullpen where he shone last season 5) Friedman and Maddon are self-described idiot savants, can spot talent in our organization that other teams (or the Tigers) overlook __________________ 404'd!

07-22-2014, 09:00 AM	#445
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,005	If I am looking at the injury list correctly, Hanrahan was re-upped on the 60 day list three days ago - season is gonzo for him. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

07-24-2014, 07:47 AM	#450
cephasjames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,736	Detroit Tigers get reliever Joakim Soria from Texas for prospects \| Detroit Free Press \| freep.com Bullpen looks to be much better now. I don't think that DD should stop there though. __________________ 5000+ Generic Logos Free for the Taking FREE: Uniforms and logos for 500+ teams spanning 1871-present Great Lakes League: 10 Conferences, 100 Teams Pre-OOTP 23 Custom Cap & Jersey Template v3.0 by Deft and NoPepper (with layers from other various artists) that I use: Caps, Jerseys

07-30-2014, 07:52 AM	#454
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,005	Well, at least Soria has given me reason to be kinder in thought toward Mr Coke. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

07-31-2014, 02:10 PM	#457
cephasjames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,736	The A's pitching staff is fantastic now. I'm a bit leery about their offense now though. Cespedes was a pretty big bat for them. Gomes will not be anywhere close to as good a bat. __________________ 5000+ Generic Logos Free for the Taking FREE: Uniforms and logos for 500+ teams spanning 1871-present Great Lakes League: 10 Conferences, 100 Teams Pre-OOTP 23 Custom Cap & Jersey Template v3.0 by Deft and NoPepper (with layers from other various artists) that I use: Caps, Jerseys

07-19-2014, 07:09 PM	#441
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,834 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Alright boys, let's get it together. Ugh! I sure hope this isn't another bad stretch kicked off by the Indians.

07-21-2014, 10:44 PM	#443
gbwitheyes Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 271	For the love of things holy, never sign a 38 year old closer.

07-21-2014, 10:49 PM	#444
gbwitheyes Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 271	In fact, maybe the Tigers are going about this all wrong. Forget relief pitchers. It's not like we can find any good ones. We should have nothing but starters. As it stands the starter of today only pitches six innings, if that. Have one starter pitch five innings, pull them and put in the next starter to pitch the final four.

07-22-2014, 09:23 AM	#446
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,834 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I like the idea of Price as well. Just not so sure I love the idea of Don Kelly playing 3B everyday.

07-22-2014, 03:33 PM	#448
Oisk Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 8	Scherzer ? Re-sign, there is no replace...... Its becoming abundantly clear he is our #1

07-24-2014, 09:09 AM	#452
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,834 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	The last time the Tigers traded a pitcher named Thompson to the Rangers it was part of that monster deal bringing Juan Gonzalez to town so he could cry about it being too hard to hit home runs. Still hate that deal because they got rid of Frank Catalonotto. I always liked him.

07-31-2014, 11:58 AM	#456
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,834 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Dombrowski must hate Billy Beane. The dude just keeps making that Fister trade look dumber and dumber. The A's look pretty damn invincible.

07-31-2014, 02:33 PM	#458
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Vogt/Gomes platoon can come close to Cespedes' production at the plate. His defense in LF? Not so much. Even though he takes horrible routes. He makes up for that with his cannon.

07-31-2014, 04:52 PM	#459
cephasjames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,736	Just heard the Tigers just got David Price!! __________________ 5000+ Generic Logos Free for the Taking FREE: Uniforms and logos for 500+ teams spanning 1871-present Great Lakes League: 10 Conferences, 100 Teams Pre-OOTP 23 Custom Cap & Jersey Template v3.0 by Deft and NoPepper (with layers from other various artists) that I use: Caps, Jerseys