2025 NFL Season Thread

[monkeyman576]

Sam Darnold needs a good system to succeed, and even then he won't always be successfull. I think he's an above average quarterback. He currently has the 4th best QBR and he deserves some credit for that. Will he win the super bowl? Probably not. But he has the tools and the system to make a playoff run I think barring injury.

[Amazin69]

And the new ALL-TIME RECORD for pass completions in a single game goes to…

…Jacoby Brissett, who went 47/57 (2 TD, 2INT) against San Francisco.

This breaks the record previously held by Drew Bledsoe and Jared Goff. I hope this record never gets broken, so that future generations can see it in the record books and go, "…who?"

[low]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

Sanders can't really complain that he wasn't given a fair shake now.

I had to check the stats. His rating was 13.5.

[Cobra Mgr]

I think Ja'marr Chase & Rick James are related.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Management & fans better realize that "meh" is not the worst situation you can be in behind center. Granted, you will have to pay too much for it. But a downgrade from there means you are really playing to accomplish nothing. Mere 10 loss seasons is too much to ask for in that situation. You will always be looking @ who the opponents have carrying the clipboard imagining that he is somehow better than what you have. You will always be looking @ mock drafts trying to figure out who you can get to replace less than "meh". And believe me, when you look at college football today, you are going to see a lot of, at best, future "meh". There aren't any 1983 drafts on the horizon.

You don't have to like "meh". But you sure better appreciate it.

You can appreciate it, but I wouldn't pay it big money. Unlike years ago, in today's game it's hard to surround "meh" enough to win a championship. But to most teams, the playoffs is good enough. So "meh" it is.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

You can appreciate it, but I wouldn't pay it big money. Unlike years ago, in today's game it's hard to surround "meh" enough to win a championship. But to most teams, the playoffs is good enough. So "meh" it is.

I don't want to play big $ either. No one wants to have the highest percentage of their salary cap going to someone who isn't their best player or leader.

Supply & demand.

Ask yourself how many teams will definitely be looking @ an upgrade @ QB this offseason.........Jets, New Orleans, Cleveland, Vegas, Cardinals. Add probably Vikings, Panthers, Falcons, Dolphins, Steelers.

In 2026, will there be 10 QB's total in the entire universe who will be available in the draft or free agency that are "meh" or better? That is why you have to hold your nose & pay them more than you think they are worth.

[low]

Chase should sit a game for doing it and then another for lying about it. Surely he is aware that these games are televised. What a scumbag.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

I don't want to play big $ either. No one wants to have the highest percentage of their salary cap going to someone who isn't their best player or leader.

Supply & demand.

Ask yourself how many teams will definitely be looking @ an upgrade @ QB this offseason.........Jets, New Orleans, Cleveland, Vegas, Cardinals. Add probably Vikings, Panthers, Falcons, Dolphins, Steelers.

In 2026, will there be 10 QB's total in the entire universe who will be available in the draft or free agency that are "meh" or better? That is why you have to hold your nose & pay them more than you think they are worth.

You get 4 years with a rookie QB. If he's not good enough, let him walk, or trade him to some sucker that wants to pay him. If you're bad enough the next season, you'll get another shot at drafting a QB.

Teams accept "meh" because their goal is not to win a championship. Just be good enough to be talked about or make the playoffs. Think of an online football sim where money isn't involved. No one would accept "meh" at QB and use up a ton of cap space on it.

More teams should use the Transition tag on some of these QBs. You'll get the QBs actual value. But I guess they don't want to insult the player.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

You get 4 years with a rookie QB. If he's not good enough, let him walk, or trade him to some sucker that wants to pay him. If you're bad enough the next season, you'll get another shot at drafting a QB.

So take almost half a decade to find out you've made zero progress & have to start the whole process all over again.

So Minnesota's route potentially...........Start McCarthy. He never develops as you enter the 2029 draft. All you have to show for it are 6-11 seasons. Yo hope somehow you that 2029 has enough QB's that one falls in your lap or that 2028 sucked so bad you are picking first & there is at least one QB everyone agrees can be a bonafide starter. In between now & then, you've been trading assets & letting high priced FA's go because you aren't going to be kissing the salary cap limit for -.500 seasons. You are also probably getting a new coaching staff & even front office regime cause 6-11 isn't good for employee retention. Now you have to develop him, but also your roster because, again, you sucked for so long. And by the 2033-34 season rolls around you have come to the conclusion that guy you spent a 1st Rd pick on @ QB.......sucks.....And we start the process over........

.....or..........

......keep Darnold on that 3 year deal he got from Seattle...wait to get more info on McCarthy and keep your head above water. Spend the offseason finding players to offset your QB's flaws and hope a McCarthy does develop. Meanwhile, you can always hope a QB falls in your lap in the draft. From which, you now do the above. And you don't have to do a complete rebuild from scratch as he gains experience.

[Cobra Mgr]

Ja'marr Chase suspended one game

[dsvitak]

How sad and pathetic are the Cowboys...four point 'dawgs against a 2-7 team.

[monkeyman576]

Hey NFL, 1978 called and wants your football game back.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

......keep Darnold on that 3 year deal he got from Seattle...wait to get more info on McCarthy and keep your head above water. Spend the offseason finding players to offset your QB's flaws and hope a McCarthy does develop. Meanwhile, you can always hope a QB falls in your lap in the draft. From which, you now do the above. And you don't have to do a complete rebuild from scratch as he gains experience.

No argument from me here. I think Darnold showed he was good enough that you could possibly build a championship team around him. I'm talking about QBs like Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, and the like. It's not easy to make up for QB talent with a salary cap.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by dsvitak

How sad and pathetic are the Cowboys...four point 'dawgs against a 2-7 team.

You read it wrong. Cowboys were favored. But that doesn't mean they aren't pathetic.

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Ja'marr Chase suspended one game

Remember when that DT on the Eagles spit on Dak, then got tossed as a result? They counted that game as his one game suspension. What crap.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

No argument from me here. I think Darnold showed he was good enough that you could possibly build a championship team around him. I'm talking about QBs like Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, and the like. It's not easy to make up for QB talent with a salary cap.

I wouldn't keep Murray simply because the red flags about dedication to the job are prevalent. I think athletics came easy for him, but he isn't willing to put in the work.

I have joked about Daniel Jones just to rile up Giants fans & because he is an ex-dookie. But I have always felt Jones' problem was coaching. I've maintained if he was black, he would be in an offense more suited for him because of stereotyping. Daniel Jones isn't Manning, Brady, Flacco. He closer to Hurts, Newton, Wilson.

[Cobra Mgr]

Can't believe the Panthers have 2 more games before their bye week........

........I'm not feeling the Eagles defense dominated the Lions Sun night. While they certainly were good, Detroit was done in more by their decisions to go for it instead of taking the FG. Another example of analytics making people dumber, not smarter. Detroit lost by a single TD. They gave up 3 opportunities to kick a FG. An INT led to a FG. A short field due to a failed 4th conversion led to a 2nd FG. 16-9 Philly could have been 15-10 Detroit if not for Detroit's failures..............

..........Carolina also nearly lost to Atlanta because they went for it on 4th early in the 3rd instead of taking the easy 3.........

.....Which leads me to this......Where is the data on all this "go for it, screw the 3" nonsense? Will the math nerds please tell me how your math is mathin'?

Here is my philosophy....If it is a close game before the 4th quarter & you can score 3 on 4th down...Kick the frikkin' ball!!!!......Stop throwing away points. Passing on the FG to go for it on 4th before the final quarter should be done only if (A)the ball is inside the opponent's 3 on 4th & goal, (B) your PK is hurt, (C) the distance is one yard & your line shoves icebergs in the off season. STOP GIVING AWAY POINTS!!!!!!!...........

.........Anyone else besides me think Josh Allen is a glory hog? Why is he running it in all the time & not a RB?...........

.......KC needs to be on red alert. In a playoff that takes 7 teams from each conference, they are currently 9th. Their 5-5 record is tied w/Houston (who currently has the better conf record) & Baltimore (who KC beat earlier). Good news is they can get a tiebreaker advantage vs Houston later. & they play the Chargers. But they have a loss to the Jags. Them & Pittsburgh look to be the teams they will be fighting for the final spot or 2. But each game should now be considered must win..........

.......The Lions are in 3rd place in their own division despite being the only team in the top 5 in yds on offense & defense.............

...........Seattle, KC & New England are the only other teams in the top 10 in both categories.............

......All that talent on Philly, and they are barely ahead of New Orleans in offensive yds per game, who have almost zero talent...........

......Who started the year thinking Steelers vs Bears would be a battle between 1st place division teams?.....

......Looked @ last night's game thinking "When was the last time the Raiders were good"? Turns out their last playoff was 2021, not as far back as I thought. Seems much longer.............

.....Speaking of Raiders, what is Sebastian Janikowski up to?............

[low]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Which leads me to this......Where is the data on all this "go for it, screw the 3" nonsense? Will the math nerds please tell me how your math is mathin'?

Here is my philosophy....If it is a close game before the 4th quarter & you can score 3 on 4th down...Kick the frikkin' ball!!!!......Stop throwing away points. Passing on the FG to go for it on 4th before the final quarter should be done only if (A)the ball is inside the opponent's 3 on 4th & goal, (B) your PK is hurt, (C) the distance is one yard & your line shoves icebergs in the off season. STOP GIVING AWAY POINTS!!!!!!!...........

"But the analytics say to go for it."

My newest hated phrase in football.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by low

"But the analytics say to go for it."

My newest hated phrase in football.

It's also the new excuse for coaches. The chart said to go for it there. Coaches also find themselves defending themselves from it as well.

No one has a better situational awareness than the head coach. Use it, and make your decision. If you're going to defer to a chart, what's your purpose?

[Ragnar]

I feel bad for Geno Smith. He's too old for this crap. The Raiders have one of the worst offensive lines I've seen in a long time. I can't tell you how many times two cowboys got through by the end of his drop. A few times I saw 3 out of 4. He could have had Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, and Kellen Winslow all in their prime as targets and they still wouldn't win. That's how bad their OL is.

[Cobra Mgr]

Michael Penix having season ending ACL surgery.