Time Warp Baseball - Page 202

Matt from TN · 03-10-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by metsgeek

He's gonna run out of alcoholic drinks. Perhaps he should pick another theme soon......Chewing Tobacco perhaps?

That's actually a pretty funny idea. The Chaw brothers, Copenhagen and Skoal (aka the Bandit).

EDIT: I am in no way promoting the use of chewing tobacco, or for that matter, the idea that someone should actually create these players in TWB.

canadiancreed · 03-10-2005, 10:33 PM

LOL well I know for a fact it wont be me making them

tward13 · 03-10-2005, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt from TN

That's actually a pretty funny idea. The Chaw brothers, Copenhagen and Skoal (aka the Bandit).

EDIT: I am in no way promoting the use of chewing tobacco, or for that matter, the idea that someone should actually create these players in TWB.

Good idea, then in the late 60's their younger cousin Weed Allen can debut.

canadiancreed · 03-10-2005, 10:37 PM

and LDS allen in the early 70's.

and cocaine and heroin allen in the 80's

tward13 · 03-10-2005, 10:49 PM

And of course Roid Allen in the late 90's

canadiancreed · 03-10-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tward13

And of course Roid Allen in the late 90's

of course.

cant forgot our present day fiasco

fvamos · 03-10-2005, 11:30 PM

The moment we hit Crack, Ectasy or Roofie Allen I'm outta here

metsgeek · 03-11-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt from TN

That's actually a pretty funny idea. The Chaw brothers, Copenhagen and Skoal (aka the Bandit).

You say that as if you don't expect me to ever be funny.

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

and LDS allen in the early 70's.

WOW, creed! If anyone can misspell LSD, it's you

DamnYankees · 03-11-2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by metsgeek

You say that as if you don't expect me to ever be funny.

Well, not NEVER. But you had a pretty good joke back on page 113 or so. To have another one on page 202? We didn't think we had it in you.

metsgeek · 03-11-2005, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Well, not NEVER. But you had a pretty good joke back on page 113 or so. To have another one on page 202? We didn't think we had it in you.

That's it, DY. Morris is batting 9th now.

And Ben and Ox are getting shipped off to Brooklyn

DamnYankees · 03-11-2005, 01:28 AM

Oh, was getting Ben from the Cubs also a joke? Sure seemed like it based on his production.

Man, you are funny.

metsgeek · 03-11-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Oh, was getting Ben from the Cubs also a joke? Sure seemed like it based on his production.

Man, you are funny.

Ben's a sensitive guy. He was bothered by the lies about big bro Morris.

jdw · 03-12-2005, 04:49 PM

> 3 more Allens have announced their
> intention to follow in family footsteps
> and join major league baseball,

and

> It is beleived they were born in February
> of 1935.

Great. They're all 18, so they'll hit the draft next year as 19 year olds.

There is overkill:

01/01/1926 - Allen, Cognac (1944 #2-24)
07/04/1926 - Allen Jr., Bourbon (1944 #1-6)
01/01/1930 - Allen, J.D. "Whiskey III" (1948 #1-9)
05/19/1931 - Allen, Scotch (1949 #1-6)
02/12/1932 - Allen, Gin (1950 #1-12)
02/14/1932 - Allen, Champagne (1950 #1-14)
07/04/1934 - Allen, Vodka (1952 #1-5)
07/04/1935 - Allen, Rye (1953 #1-11)

Those are all currently in the game.

Add in three more born in 1935 and it's *eight* born between 1931-35, 11 in a decade, and lord knows how many more are already in the hopper that he's forgotten about that are popping up in the next few years.

The humor value is declining of it. And the "storyline" of the family is less interesting as more get tossed in. The contrast of Bourbon and Whiskey was always a great storyline, and now the highs of Bourbon Jr. and the tough development of Whiskey Jr. is a nice follow up on their fathers.

But the rest are getting to be a cluster****. I mean what is to draw us into caring about the progress of Cognac? They're just getting to be names tossed out, drafted, and then moved onto the next guy.

Maybe make a test of these triplets - make them all 4th round pick "quality" and see if even one of them can develop into a big leauger.

metsgeek · 03-12-2005, 05:22 PM

I know I might not have a leg to stand on because I have the 2nd most ancestors, but wasn't there a 3 per surname per generation rule? And the alcohol theme is getting old.

rudel.dietrich · 03-12-2005, 05:27 PM

I thought it was 5 per generation.
5 limit should be enforced I think...

After the next draft I will have 5 in TWB.
I plan on adding alot of members to the Dietrich clan but I plan on making the children 20-23 years apart from the parents.

On another note. Did creed kill the site again?
It won't work for me.

jdw · 03-12-2005, 06:29 PM

> I thought it was 5 per generation.

"Limit 3 people per last name per generation..."
-Matt in the sign up list

> 5 limit should be enforced I think...

Okay, so we'll take you at your word as a Law & Order enforcer of the rules...

> After the next draft I will have 5 in TWB.

You have two Dietrich's in the game right now. I don't know if you have any other's playing. If you were adding three more Dietrich's next year, pick one and ask Matt to delete the other two.

That is if you believe "limit should be enforced".

Matt hasn't always enforced it. There are so many ancestors in the game (thanks in part to Mets and Creed :P ), that it's hard to track it. It's a bit of an honor system as much as anything. scprideandms also gets a little slack since he had the original "Ancestor" in the game - Whiskey Allen.

That said, the three new Allen's should be moved to joining the game in 1965 *at the earliest*. ?Having already been allowed six to added since the game went live, while also having a pair of Allen's added just two year *before* the live era, already has made the rule look silly enough.

While I tend to say "stick to the rules", my earlier post was more about scprideandms pretty much making what was an interesting family storyline turn into something uninteresting. Bourbon Jr. is a great pitcher. Whiskey III is a compelling story on whether he can turn it around. But there are so many Allens running around that even ones with the better storylines just don't get the interest and attention that they should.

"Another Allen... ho-hum."

I think at times some of Mets ancestors have fallen into that in the past few years. Whereas earlier, Campbell, Professor and all the way to Schnozz all got interesting storylines. With the Commander, we're literally "making **** up" to give him a storyline. He'd pretty much be a zero if I hadn't made the suggestion of his quest for the minor league HR title.

BTW, Mets - I'd focus that Defense allocation on Contact this year - the drop in BA last season meant there were less "hits" to turn into HR's.

Maybe:

8 Contact
6 Power
6 Strike Zone
0 Defense

His power is maxed, and even juiced over in Gap. No need to overwork that again. The 6 is more "maintain". The Eye could use a little boast. He doesn't walk enough where it hurts his HRs, but it does look like having a decent eye does help make him a better hitter.

But that Contact is something you probably over the next few years want to see if you can juice to 4.

He's in this for the long haul, so it's more that you want to keep him humming along at his maxes rather than trashing any skill he has. That you don't care about his defense and can constantly take that 5 and allocate it elsewhere give you plenty to work with.

I think if you can get his BA up into the .280-.300 range consistently, with the 5 power and not having bad strike zone control (5/6 Eye/Avoid K is not bad at all for an A ball player), he's going to be banging 30+ HR.

John

metsgeek · 03-12-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jdw

BTW, Mets - I'd focus that Defense allocation on Contact this year - the drop in BA last season meant there were less "hits" to turn into HR's.

Maybe:

8 Contact
6 Power
6 Strike Zone
0 Defense

Beat you to it, although I went 7/6/7/0

Matt from TN · 03-12-2005, 08:32 PM

Yes, scprideandms gets a little slack from me, in part because he was the 1st, and the 1st to regularly follow the thread. The rule is 3 per generation per last name. You you could have 30 ancestors in a generation as long as every 3 had different last names (although I don't encourage that many at once). Pete's guys have many different last names, so no biggie. Creed's too. I enjoy the Allen's, but agree that perhaps we should postpose them for another 10 years or so???

rudel.dietrich · 03-12-2005, 08:35 PM

I can't get on the website. Is it down?

Matt from TN · 03-12-2005, 08:37 PM

It was earlier (probably maintenance?) but it's up now.

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03-12-2005, 04:49 PM	#4033
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	> 3 more Allens have announced their > intention to follow in family footsteps > and join major league baseball, and > It is beleived they were born in February > of 1935. Great. They're all 18, so they'll hit the draft next year as 19 year olds. There is overkill: 01/01/1926 - Allen, Cognac (1944 #2-24) 07/04/1926 - Allen Jr., Bourbon (1944 #1-6) 01/01/1930 - Allen, J.D. "Whiskey III" (1948 #1-9) 05/19/1931 - Allen, Scotch (1949 #1-6) 02/12/1932 - Allen, Gin (1950 #1-12) 02/14/1932 - Allen, Champagne (1950 #1-14) 07/04/1934 - Allen, Vodka (1952 #1-5) 07/04/1935 - Allen, Rye (1953 #1-11) Those are all currently in the game. Add in three more born in 1935 and it's eight born between 1931-35, 11 in a decade, and lord knows how many more are already in the hopper that he's forgotten about that are popping up in the next few years. The humor value is declining of it. And the "storyline" of the family is less interesting as more get tossed in. The contrast of Bourbon and Whiskey was always a great storyline, and now the highs of Bourbon Jr. and the tough development of Whiskey Jr. is a nice follow up on their fathers. But the rest are getting to be a cluster***. I mean what is to draw us into caring about the progress of Cognac? They're just getting to be names tossed out, drafted, and then moved onto the next guy. Maybe make a test of these triplets - make them all 4th round pick "quality" and see if even one of them can develop into a big leauger. Last edited by jdw; 03-12-2005 at 05:06 PM.*

03-12-2005, 05:22 PM	#4034
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,450	I know I might not have a leg to stand on because I have the 2nd most ancestors, but wasn't there a 3 per surname per generation rule? And the alcohol theme is getting old. __________________ Commissioner - PBRL - Just finished 2009 109 seasons and still running strong!!!

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Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Yes, scprideandms gets a little slack from me, in part because he was the 1st, and the 1st to regularly follow the thread. The rule is 3 per generation per last name. You you could have 30 ancestors in a generation as long as every 3 had different last names (although I don't encourage that many at once). Pete's guys have many different last names, so no biggie. Creed's too. I enjoy the Allen's, but agree that perhaps we should postpose them for another 10 years or so??? __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

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tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,964	And of course Roid Allen in the late 90's

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fvamos Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 75	The moment we hit Crack, Ectasy or Roofie Allen I'm outta here

03-11-2005, 01:28 AM	#4031
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Oh, was getting Ben from the Cubs also a joke? Sure seemed like it based on his production. Man, you are funny.

03-12-2005, 05:27 PM	#4035
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	I thought it was 5 per generation. 5 limit should be enforced I think... After the next draft I will have 5 in TWB. I plan on adding alot of members to the Dietrich clan but I plan on making the children 20-23 years apart from the parents. On another note. Did creed kill the site again? It won't work for me.

03-12-2005, 06:29 PM	#4036
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	> I thought it was 5 per generation. "Limit 3 people per last name per generation..." -Matt in the sign up list > 5 limit should be enforced I think... Okay, so we'll take you at your word as a Law & Order enforcer of the rules... > After the next draft I will have 5 in TWB. You have two Dietrich's in the game right now. I don't know if you have any other's playing. If you were adding three more Dietrich's next year, pick one and ask Matt to delete the other two. That is if you believe "limit should be enforced". Matt hasn't always enforced it. There are so many ancestors in the game (thanks in part to Mets and Creed :P ), that it's hard to track it. It's a bit of an honor system as much as anything. scprideandms also gets a little slack since he had the original "Ancestor" in the game - Whiskey Allen. That said, the three new Allen's should be moved to joining the game in 1965 at the earliest. ?Having already been allowed six to added since the game went live, while also having a pair of Allen's added just two year before the live era, already has made the rule look silly enough. While I tend to say "stick to the rules", my earlier post was more about scprideandms pretty much making what was an interesting family storyline turn into something uninteresting. Bourbon Jr. is a great pitcher. Whiskey III is a compelling story on whether he can turn it around. But there are so many Allens running around that even ones with the better storylines just don't get the interest and attention that they should. "Another Allen... ho-hum." I think at times some of Mets ancestors have fallen into that in the past few years. Whereas earlier, Campbell, Professor and all the way to Schnozz all got interesting storylines. With the Commander, we're literally "making **** up" to give him a storyline. He'd pretty much be a zero if I hadn't made the suggestion of his quest for the minor league HR title. BTW, Mets - I'd focus that Defense allocation on Contact this year - the drop in BA last season meant there were less "hits" to turn into HR's. Maybe: 8 Contact 6 Power 6 Strike Zone 0 Defense His power is maxed, and even juiced over in Gap. No need to overwork that again. The 6 is more "maintain". The Eye could use a little boast. He doesn't walk enough where it hurts his HRs, but it does look like having a decent eye does help make him a better hitter. But that Contact is something you probably over the next few years want to see if you can juice to 4. He's in this for the long haul, so it's more that you want to keep him humming along at his maxes rather than trashing any skill he has. That you don't care about his defense and can constantly take that 5 and allocate it elsewhere give you plenty to work with. I think if you can get his BA up into the .280-.300 range consistently, with the 5 power and not having bad strike zone control (5/6 Eye/Avoid K is not bad at all for an A ball player), he's going to be banging 30+ HR. John

03-12-2005, 08:35 PM	#4039
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	I can't get on the website. Is it down?

03-12-2005, 08:37 PM	#4040
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	It was earlier (probably maintenance?) but it's up now. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise