Time Warp Baseball - Page 201

DamnYankees · 03-08-2005, 11:04 PM

Congrats Creed on our 4,000th post, which happens to come on the 200th page!

Let's also give Matt his congratulations for keeping up this amazing league!

Matt from TN · 03-08-2005, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jdw

Matt - great choice to co-MVP. I usually think in real life that co-MVPs tend to be cop-outs, but this isn't close to one. They both really were brilliant and worthy of it.

And I believe just the 2nd co-MVPs in now 49 WS.

Matt from TN · 03-08-2005, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Congrats Creed on our 4,000th post, which happens to come on the 200th page!

Let's also give Matt his congratulations for keeping up this amazing league!

And thanks to Creed for helping me achieve this milestone!

canadiancreed · 03-09-2005, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

And thanks to Creed for helping me achieve this milestone!

you're welcome

Carlton · 03-09-2005, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

And I believe just the 2nd co-MVPs in now 49 WS.

Yep last ones were Bill Bailey and (I forget)

canadiancreed · 03-09-2005, 04:09 PM

does anyone happen to know where Alan Laio originally hails from?

Matt from TN · 03-09-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

does anyone happen to know where Alan Laio originally hails from?

No. Check him in the retired players list (almanac/HOF/View all retired players). If it's blank, pm potatoman. It's his ancestor.

Matt from TN · 03-10-2005, 02:23 AM

1952 Postseason

World Series Champs - Detroit Tigers 3rd Pennant, 2nd WS Title - 1st WS win since 1928

NL Champs - New York Giants 9th Pennant

AL BOY: Luther Ormiston, DET, .299, 39 HR, 127 RBI
NL BOY: Joe Rodabaugh, NYG, .274, 38 HR, 112 RBI

AL POY: Corky Stell, DET, 21-7, 2.29 ERA, 118 K, 88 BB
NL POY: Cotton Simson, PIT, 25-9, 2.60 ERA, 233 K, 50 BB

AL ROY: Bill Hall, WSH, .285, 10 HR, 64 RBI - This makes 5 of the past 6 years that a former Negro Leaguer has won a ROY!
NL ROY: Ben Gardner, NYG, 14-14, 2.84 ERA, 127 K, 97 BB - Also a former Negro Leaguer like Hall

AL AVG: Vince Chipple, SLA, .351
NL AVG: Cy Helbig, STL, .341

AL HR: Luther Ormiston, DET, 39
NL HR: Joe Rodabaugh, NYG, 38

AL RBI: Luther Ormiston, DET, 127
NL RBI: Joe Rodabaugh, NYG, 112

AL SB: Jonny Perly, SLA, 69
NL SB: Ben Cook, STL, 50

AL ERA: Corky Stell, DET, 2.29
NL ERA: Randy Liebermann, CHN, 2.57

AL Wins: Corky Stell, DET and Bob Stevens, PHA, 21
NL Wins: Cotton Simson, PIT, 25

AL K's: Bob Stevens, PHA, 230
NL K's: Cotton Simson, PIT, 233

AL Saves: Billy Hyberg, BOS, 25
NL Saves: Daniel Blisit, NYG, 21

Major League Records (if old record was long-standing, it's listed in parenthesis)

NONE

League Records

NONE

Team Records

BKN - 65 Games Pitched, Thomas Collaco

BSN - 88 K's (Batter), Bonnard Shadle (86, Dud Dietzsch, 1936)

CHA - 17 Saves, Sam Fontana

CLE - 77 Games Pitched, Wally Pickles

DET - 148 Walks (Batter), Ray Kress
DET - 65 Games Pitched, Lloyd Wyman
DET - 24 Saves, Lloyd Wyman

NYA - 78 Games Pitched, Oscar Villalpando
NYA - 21 Saves, Doyle Weaver
NYA - 13 K's in One Game, Carpenter Erickson (12, Eddie "The Irish Flame" Teague, 1911)

PHA - 82 Games Pitched, Cal Granger
PHA - 23 Saves, Cal Granger
PHA - 230 K's (Pitcher), Bob Stevens

PHI - 88 K's (Batter), Lonny Arrendale (88, Don Stirn, 1938)
PHI - 20 Rookie HR, Jim Coleman

PIT - 25 Wins, Cotton Simson (25, Wesley "Two-Toed" Hubbell, 1911)
PIT - 233 K's (Pitcher), Cotton Simson

SLA - 78 Games Pitched, Herman Curoe
SLA - 69 Steals, Jonny Perly

STL - 123 Walks (Batter), Ben Cook

WSH - 100 K's (Batter), Blake Crocitto

Milestones

2000 Hits - Peaches Badeau, PHA
2000 Hits - Junior Nunez, STL
2000 Hits - Herman Dunkel, STL

250 Homeruns - Chuck Rauch, CHN

200 Homeruns - Ken Chaucer, BSN
200 Homeruns - Luther Ormiston, DET
200 Homeruns - Lonny Arrendale, PHI

1000 RBI - Mitch Leibowitz, BSN

1000 Walks - Ben Hargey, BOS

1000 Runs - Peaches Badeau, PHA
1000 Runs - Junior Nunez, STL
1000 Runs - Ray Kress, DET
1000 Runs - Ogden Wing, STL

Gold Gloves

1952 American League Winners

Pitcher: Howie Leosh, CLE
Catcher: Hershel Lee, PHA
First Base: Chris Anderson, WSH
Second Base: Dean Parente, WSH
Third Base: Donald Medart, CHA
Shortstop: Victor Estevez, CLE
Leftfield: Jesse Baker, NYA
Centerfield: Homer Jewell, CHA
Rightfield: Stu Cripps, CHA

1952 National League Winners

Pitcher: Walter Pond, NYG
Catcher: Chuck Rauch, CHN - 2 straight!
First Base: Ted McMurray, CIN - 2 straight!
Second Base: Maurice Goza, CIN - 2 straight!
Third Base: Cliff Bass, BKN
Shortstop: Dennis Ward, CIN
Leftfield: Bob Ferry, BKN - 2 straight!
Centerfield: Albert Huschke, PIT
Rightfield: Chris Hulliberger, CHN - 2 straight!

American League-Pitcher of the Month:
Eugene Sprecher (SLA)!
He had a record of 4-1 in 6 games started, with an ERA of 1.79 and 1 shutouts.

American League-Batter of the Month:
Dean Parente (WSH)!
He batted .349 in 86 AB, with 3 homers and 15 RBI.

National League-Pitcher of the Month:
Henry Cavalluzzo (BSN)!
He had a record of 4-0 in 5 games started, with an ERA of 0.44 and 2 shutouts.

National League-Batter of the Month:
Joe Rodabaugh (NYG)!
He batted .330 in 97 AB, with 7 homers and 27 RBI.

canadiancreed · 03-10-2005, 02:33 AM

well barring Brooklyn putting in another all field/no-hit scrub, i'm looking at an all infield GG for the Reds this year. And possibly catcher too with Rauch possibly going downhill.

DamnYankees · 03-10-2005, 02:40 AM

Just browsing through the leagues prospects, and ran across Lukas Dietrich. His talents were real good when he was drafted, but they sure spat out an odd stat-line:

Code:

Year	G	GS	W	L	SV	ERA	IP	HA	R	ER	BB	K	CG	SHO
1952, A	23	23	5	13	0	2.70	183.0	134	63	55	91	129	13	0

Really good ERA of 2.70, pretty good WHIP of 1.23, not an insane amount of unearned runs. How the heck do you go 5-13 with that statline? Seems like he should get a boost to AA in 1953, if not already there. Just rang odd. The Senators must have the worst batting in A-ball.

rudel.dietrich · 03-10-2005, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Just browsing through the leagues prospects, and ran across Lukas Dietrich. His talents were real good when he was drafted, but they sure spat out an odd stat-line:

Code:

Year	G	GS	W	L	SV	ERA	IP	HA	R	ER	BB	K	CG	SHO
1952, A	23	23	5	13	0	2.70	183.0	134	63	55	91	129	13	0

Really good ERA of 2.70, pretty good WHIP of 1.23, not an insane amount of unearned runs. How the heck do you go 5-13 with that statline? Seems like he should get a boost to AA in 1953, if not already there. Just rang odd. The Senators must have the worst batting in A-ball.

He got ratings boosts right as August was ending and I moved him to AA in late August but he never got a start there.
He might start 1953 there or move up to AAA.
I am leaning towards letting him have a month of two of AA ball to see how he does.
If he improves over spring training in control or movement then he will be in AAA and has a shot at getting some relief work by the end of the summer.

kreitena · 03-10-2005, 04:06 AM

I wonder, is this the first time both BOYs had batting averages below .300. Just thought that was interesting.

DamnYankees · 03-10-2005, 05:26 PM

I don't think anyone has yet acknowledged the retirement of Denny Caneer.

Greates minor league power hitter of all time, with well over 300 HR. I can't see the exact number, since his player page no longer exists. But multiple seasons of over 60 HR counts for something.

Sideshow, you shall be missed. Now The Commander can nickel and dime his way to your record.

metsgeek · 03-10-2005, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

I don't think anyone has yet acknowledged the retirement of Denny Caneer.

Good Riddance

Quote:

Sideshow, you shall be missed. Now The Commander can nickel and dime his way to your record.

....and surpass him. Everyone knows "Sideshow" should have been called "Freak Show". It was widely rumored that he regularly injected himself with horse hormones. Something has to account for his freakishly long skull, his well-known fondness for oats, and a disturbing tendency to whinny.

canadiancreed · 03-10-2005, 05:46 PM

#57 Denny "Sideshow" Caneer, First Base, 38 yrs, No Team
Wednesday, 3/2/1953

Career Batting Stats

Year	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	R	BB	HP	SF	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	Teams
1937	3	6	4	0	0	0	1	1	0	68	69	1	0	1	.667	.667	.667	1.333	DET
1938	47	70	21	5	0	2	17	10	4	0	0	7	1	0	.300	.338	.457	.795	DET
1939	59	86	19	3	1	1	11	9	5	0	0	15	0	0	.221	.264	.314	.578	DET
1940	68	113	23	9	0	4	21	19	10	0	0	9	0	0	.204	.268	.389	.658	DET
1941	127	410	101	22	1	12	59	50	30	0	0	52	1	0	.246	.298	.393	.690	DET
1942	137	497	109	25	2	21	76	51	35	0	0	62	0	0	.219	.271	.404	.675	DET
1947	122	425	80	10	2	20	60	42	19	4	4	65	0	0	.188	.228	.362	.590	DET NYA
1948	71	167	32	9	0	9	26	14	9	2	3	19	0	0	.192	.238	.407	.645	NYA
1949	11	13	2	1	0	1	1	2	3	0	0	2	0	0	.154	.313	.462	.774	NYA
1950	7	15	4	1	0	2	3	3	2	1	0	3	0	0	.267	.389	.733	1.122	NYA
1951	7	16	1	0	0	0	1	1	2	0	0	5	0	0	.063	.167	.063	.229	NYA
Total	659	1818	396	85	6	72	276	202	119	75	76	240	2	1	.218	.283	.390	.673	&#160

Career Minor League Batting Stats

Year	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	R	BB	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
1937, AAA	121	521	160	15	0	29	114	83	41	58	1	0	.307	.351	.503	.854
1938, AAA	68	283	99	10	0	23	58	54	26	32	1	2	.350	.398	.629	1.027
1946, AAA	131	543	143	29	0	50	123	102	44	59	2	0	.263	.316	.593	.909
1949, AAA	90	348	91	18	1	39	100	65	37	42	1	0	.261	.324	.655	.979
1950, AA	13	42	14	3	0	8	17	14	4	6	0	0	.333	.375	.976	1.351
1950, AAA	117	454	123	22	0	57	132	98	37	68	0	1	.271	.321	.696	1.017
1951, AAA	131	510	132	31	2	58	129	100	47	46	6	0	.259	.311	.669	.980
1952, A	129	492	131	25	0	63	135	99	59	63	1	2	.266	.337	.701	1.039

Career Postseason Batting Stats

Year	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	R	BB	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Total	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000

Position

PCT

INN

RANGE

PB

RSTA

RTO

RTO%

Player History

Drafted in 1st round, 3rd overall pick, by Detroit in 1937...
Had first career hit on 7/23/1937, off George Cone (CHA)...
Hit first career homerun on 6/22/1938, off Zolly Schoeter (CLE)...
Injured on 8/13/1939 with a Torn Abdominal Muscle, out for 4 weeks...
Drove in 6 runs against St. Louis (A) on 9/12/1942...
Won Player of the Week award on 9/14/1942, hitting .381 with 4 HR, 10 RBI...
Won Gold Glove Award at First Base in 1942...
Traded from Detroit to New York (A) on 3/2/1947 (Going to DET: 1B George Young. Going to NYA: 2B Ray Dimeo, 1B Denny Caneer)...
Injured on 5/30/1950 with a Strained Back Muscle, out for one week...
Retired in 1953.

scprideandms · 03-10-2005, 06:13 PM

3 more Allens have announced their intention to follow in family footsteps and join major league baseball, these 3 being the infamous Florida Everglades triplets of Goldschlager "Cinnamon" Allen, Rumplemintz "Shot Glass" Allen and Jagermeister "Germany" Allen.

It is beleived they were born in February of 1935. They were orphans as the man who raised them, known only as Big Ed, found them in February 1935 in a small skiff while he was hunting alligators in the Everglades. They had never left the swamp before taking Big Ed to the hospital following his arm getting bitten off by a gator when they were 17. There they met some unkown person who introduced them to the game and they look like naturals.

All 3 are 5'6" tall and weigh 200 pounds. All intend to be pitchers as their lack of exposure to the game has affected their ability to learn how to hit.

Cinnamon has excellent movement on his pitches with a nasty curve and even nastier knuckleball. Shot Glass has a cannon of an arm with great stuff while Germany who can't throw a ball more than 85 mph has control so good he can knock a mosquito off a hitters arm without hitting the player.

It will be interesting to see what this inexperienced (both in baseball and the modern world) trio can do.

DamnYankees · 03-10-2005, 06:18 PM

Haha, the Allen family is like a constant stream of Dizzy Deans. Are they triplets or something? Matt, you should use the same pic for all three of these guys. Short and fat.

Matt from TN · 03-10-2005, 06:33 PM

How does this Allen seed keep spreading? Someone stamp it out already! :P

canadiancreed · 03-10-2005, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

How does this Allen seed keep spreading? Someone stamp it out already! :P

hehehe he might start competing with the mets and creeds of the thread

metsgeek · 03-10-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

hehehe he might start competing with the mets and creeds of the thread

He's gonna run out of alcoholic drinks. Perhaps he should pick another theme soon......Chewing Tobacco perhaps?

03-09-2005, 04:09 PM	#4006
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	does anyone happen to know where Alan Laio originally hails from? __________________ PT21 PT22

03-10-2005, 02:33 AM	#4009
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	well barring Brooklyn putting in another all field/no-hit scrub, i'm looking at an all infield GG for the Reds this year. And possibly catcher too with Rauch possibly going downhill. __________________ PT21 PT22

03-10-2005, 02:40 AM	#4010
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Just browsing through the leagues prospects, and ran across Lukas Dietrich. His talents were real good when he was drafted, but they sure spat out an odd stat-line: Code: Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO 1952, A 23 23 5 13 0 2.70 183.0 134 63 55 91 129 13 0 Really good ERA of 2.70, pretty good WHIP of 1.23, not an insane amount of unearned runs. How the heck do you go 5-13 with that statline? Seems like he should get a boost to AA in 1953, if not already there. Just rang odd. The Senators must have the worst batting in A-ball.

03-10-2005, 04:06 AM	#4012
kreitena Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 302	I wonder, is this the first time both BOYs had batting averages below .300. Just thought that was interesting. __________________ PBRL - Chicago Cubs TWB - Los Angeles Dodgers

03-10-2005, 06:13 PM	#4016
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	3 more Allens have announced their intention to follow in family footsteps and join major league baseball, these 3 being the infamous Florida Everglades triplets of Goldschlager "Cinnamon" Allen, Rumplemintz "Shot Glass" Allen and Jagermeister "Germany" Allen. It is beleived they were born in February of 1935. They were orphans as the man who raised them, known only as Big Ed, found them in February 1935 in a small skiff while he was hunting alligators in the Everglades. They had never left the swamp before taking Big Ed to the hospital following his arm getting bitten off by a gator when they were 17. There they met some unkown person who introduced them to the game and they look like naturals. All 3 are 5'6" tall and weigh 200 pounds. All intend to be pitchers as their lack of exposure to the game has affected their ability to learn how to hit. Cinnamon has excellent movement on his pitches with a nasty curve and even nastier knuckleball. Shot Glass has a cannon of an arm with great stuff while Germany who can't throw a ball more than 85 mph has control so good he can knock a mosquito off a hitters arm without hitting the player. It will be interesting to see what this inexperienced (both in baseball and the modern world) trio can do. __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

03-08-2005, 11:04 PM	#4001
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Congrats Creed on our 4,000th post, which happens to come on the 200th page! Let's also give Matt his congratulations for keeping up this amazing league!

03-10-2005, 02:23 AM	#4008
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	1952 Postseason World Series Champs - Detroit Tigers 3rd Pennant, 2nd WS Title - 1st WS win since 1928 NL Champs - New York Giants 9th Pennant AL BOY: Luther Ormiston, DET, .299, 39 HR, 127 RBI NL BOY: Joe Rodabaugh, NYG, .274, 38 HR, 112 RBI AL POY: Corky Stell, DET, 21-7, 2.29 ERA, 118 K, 88 BB NL POY: Cotton Simson, PIT, 25-9, 2.60 ERA, 233 K, 50 BB AL ROY: Bill Hall, WSH, .285, 10 HR, 64 RBI - This makes 5 of the past 6 years that a former Negro Leaguer has won a ROY! NL ROY: Ben Gardner, NYG, 14-14, 2.84 ERA, 127 K, 97 BB - Also a former Negro Leaguer like Hall AL AVG: Vince Chipple, SLA, .351 NL AVG: Cy Helbig, STL, .341 AL HR: Luther Ormiston, DET, 39 NL HR: Joe Rodabaugh, NYG, 38 AL RBI: Luther Ormiston, DET, 127 NL RBI: Joe Rodabaugh, NYG, 112 AL SB: Jonny Perly, SLA, 69 NL SB: Ben Cook, STL, 50 AL ERA: Corky Stell, DET, 2.29 NL ERA: Randy Liebermann, CHN, 2.57 AL Wins: Corky Stell, DET and Bob Stevens, PHA, 21 NL Wins: Cotton Simson, PIT, 25 AL K's: Bob Stevens, PHA, 230 NL K's: Cotton Simson, PIT, 233 AL Saves: Billy Hyberg, BOS, 25 NL Saves: Daniel Blisit, NYG, 21 Major League Records (if old record was long-standing, it's listed in parenthesis) NONE League Records NONE Team Records BKN - 65 Games Pitched, Thomas Collaco BSN - 88 K's (Batter), Bonnard Shadle (86, Dud Dietzsch, 1936) CHA - 17 Saves, Sam Fontana CLE - 77 Games Pitched, Wally Pickles DET - 148 Walks (Batter), Ray Kress DET - 65 Games Pitched, Lloyd Wyman DET - 24 Saves, Lloyd Wyman NYA - 78 Games Pitched, Oscar Villalpando NYA - 21 Saves, Doyle Weaver NYA - 13 K's in One Game, Carpenter Erickson (12, Eddie "The Irish Flame" Teague, 1911) PHA - 82 Games Pitched, Cal Granger PHA - 23 Saves, Cal Granger PHA - 230 K's (Pitcher), Bob Stevens PHI - 88 K's (Batter), Lonny Arrendale (88, Don Stirn, 1938) PHI - 20 Rookie HR, Jim Coleman PIT - 25 Wins, Cotton Simson (25, Wesley "Two-Toed" Hubbell, 1911) PIT - 233 K's (Pitcher), Cotton Simson SLA - 78 Games Pitched, Herman Curoe SLA - 69 Steals, Jonny Perly STL - 123 Walks (Batter), Ben Cook WSH - 100 K's (Batter), Blake Crocitto Milestones 2000 Hits - Peaches Badeau, PHA 2000 Hits - Junior Nunez, STL 2000 Hits - Herman Dunkel, STL 250 Homeruns - Chuck Rauch, CHN 200 Homeruns - Ken Chaucer, BSN 200 Homeruns - Luther Ormiston, DET 200 Homeruns - Lonny Arrendale, PHI 1000 RBI - Mitch Leibowitz, BSN 1000 Walks - Ben Hargey, BOS 1000 Runs - Peaches Badeau, PHA 1000 Runs - Junior Nunez, STL 1000 Runs - Ray Kress, DET 1000 Runs - Ogden Wing, STL Gold Gloves 1952 American League Winners Pitcher: Howie Leosh, CLE Catcher: Hershel Lee, PHA First Base: Chris Anderson, WSH Second Base: Dean Parente, WSH Third Base: Donald Medart, CHA Shortstop: Victor Estevez, CLE Leftfield: Jesse Baker, NYA Centerfield: Homer Jewell, CHA Rightfield: Stu Cripps, CHA 1952 National League Winners Pitcher: Walter Pond, NYG Catcher: Chuck Rauch, CHN - 2 straight! First Base: Ted McMurray, CIN - 2 straight! Second Base: Maurice Goza, CIN - 2 straight! Third Base: Cliff Bass, BKN Shortstop: Dennis Ward, CIN Leftfield: Bob Ferry, BKN - 2 straight! Centerfield: Albert Huschke, PIT Rightfield: Chris Hulliberger, CHN - 2 straight! American League-Pitcher of the Month: Eugene Sprecher (SLA)! He had a record of 4-1 in 6 games started, with an ERA of 1.79 and 1 shutouts. American League-Batter of the Month: Dean Parente (WSH)! He batted .349 in 86 AB, with 3 homers and 15 RBI. National League-Pitcher of the Month: Henry Cavalluzzo (BSN)! He had a record of 4-0 in 5 games started, with an ERA of 0.44 and 2 shutouts. National League-Batter of the Month: Joe Rodabaugh (NYG)! He batted .330 in 97 AB, with 7 homers and 27 RBI.

03-10-2005, 05:26 PM	#4013
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	I don't think anyone has yet acknowledged the retirement of Denny Caneer. Greates minor league power hitter of all time, with well over 300 HR. I can't see the exact number, since his player page no longer exists. But multiple seasons of over 60 HR counts for something. Sideshow, you shall be missed. Now The Commander can nickel and dime his way to your record.

03-10-2005, 06:18 PM	#4017
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Haha, the Allen family is like a constant stream of Dizzy Deans. Are they triplets or something? Matt, you should use the same pic for all three of these guys. Short and fat.

03-10-2005, 06:33 PM	#4018
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	How does this Allen seed keep spreading? Someone stamp it out already! :P __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise