Are you a ratings or a stat GM? - Page 2

andymac · 04-05-2005, 03:15 AM

My favorite way to play is with only the "other" ratings on 2-8 and all other ratings off. I go completely by stats and the scouting report.

sporr · 04-05-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I use them both. Mostly I go by ratings for call-ups and stuff like that. Once in the line-up I go by stats.

This is what I do, EXCEPT if a player has a history of under or overperforming compared to his stats I do weigh that into my opening lineup decisions.

mkjhartmann · 04-07-2005, 02:17 AM

I use ratings for call ups, but stats for line up positions and playing time. And sometines those high ratings guys just don't get the stats and back on the bus it is! I think the full blown design is very well balanced and representative of whatever little I know about baseball. Wonderful game, whichever way you play it.

Mike

Khan · 04-07-2005, 02:34 AM

I use ratings as well.

I just view them as another type of scouting report, which may or may not tell you how good or bad a player is or will end up being.

Bottom line though is production (stats). Highly rated and highly paid players that underperform don't last long on my teams.

ravinhood · 04-07-2005, 08:48 PM

The scouts are such liars, if I depended on them for whether players should play in the big leagues, I wouldn't even have a team. I've never seen so many "this player should not play in the big leagues" or "this player is a lifetime minor league player" and I put them in the big game and they turn into superstars. But, at any rate I go by "stats and performance" most of all, of course the ratings are semi-helpful in determining when they get opportunities and at what batting position they start out, but, their performance from then on determines how they move up in the lineup or even if they remain. I don't even look at talent ratings at all. It's all in the actual performance baby. hehe

mrbill · 04-08-2005, 01:43 AM

Ratings tell a lot for me, but you can't just look at "Overall" ratings, you have to look at LHP/RHP split, and what side a batter bats from. I make a killing going after as many switch hitters tipped toward RHP, then lefties better vs RHP, and finally some RHB to balance out the occasional lefy pitcher.

Stats are so random, park influence can be huge, caliber of division rivals, quality of GM (resting people enough, putting good fielders for pitchers), and they don't seem to match up because often a righty has great ratings but is better vs LHP, so they rarely get to take advantage of their strengths.

I basically take advantage of stats guys in my online leagues by buying low and selling high, knowing ratings (esp w/o scouts) are the best predictor of future performance.

Hidden ratings... maybe does something, but not more than the effect of a keen eye of how a player's stats are affected by other factors.

benchwarmer · 04-08-2005, 02:06 AM

Ratings, ratings, ratings.

Ramzavail · 04-08-2005, 10:47 AM

Im a big fan of the 100 rating scale on all levels

Ive never tried going without ratings, that would be interesting.

ctorg · 04-08-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramzavail

Im a big fan of the 100 rating scale on all levels

Ive never tried going without ratings, that would be interesting.

It can certainly make things more challenging. If you find that the game is becoming too easy, try it out.

FamundaCheese · 04-17-2005, 03:32 AM

I started playing the game with all the ratings on, but now after a year of playing and after really really getting into baseball thanks to Moneyball, Bill James, Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus i've turned of all ratings except other for the fielding and for the most part simply ingore the scouting reports. Recently i was browsing through my minors and noticed a MR who had been in my minors for 6 years, :sidenote, i took over the club after the first 5 years:, he had bounce all the way from A to AAA and back to A. But after looking at his stats i notices that he consistenlty had a high K/9 and a low BB/9 plus a WHIP at or below 1.00 . The scouting report said he was a project player who would never pan out. I figured what the hell and called him up to the show. Guess what, he was a VERY productive setup man and is now one the mainstays in my bullpen. So in short, STATS.

Ken Bujold · 04-17-2005, 10:12 PM

all depends on what mode i am in. If i am field managing then its stats with ratings off. If i am gm then its both, since the greater part of any gm's job is processing the information provided by his scouts (ratings) and acting upon his manager's needs (stats)

04-05-2005, 03:15 AM	#21
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	My favorite way to play is with only the "other" ratings on 2-8 and all other ratings off. I go completely by stats and the scouting report. __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac

04-07-2005, 02:34 AM	#24
Khan All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 827	I use ratings as well. I just view them as another type of scouting report, which may or may not tell you how good or bad a player is or will end up being. Bottom line though is production (stats). Highly rated and highly paid players that underperform don't last long on my teams. __________________ CBL quickstart thread My Logo & Uni thread OOTP Google drive

04-08-2005, 01:43 AM	#26
mrbill All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LA, CA Posts: 982	Ratings tell a lot for me, but you can't just look at "Overall" ratings, you have to look at LHP/RHP split, and what side a batter bats from. I make a killing going after as many switch hitters tipped toward RHP, then lefties better vs RHP, and finally some RHB to balance out the occasional lefy pitcher. Stats are so random, park influence can be huge, caliber of division rivals, quality of GM (resting people enough, putting good fielders for pitchers), and they don't seem to match up because often a righty has great ratings but is better vs LHP, so they rarely get to take advantage of their strengths. I basically take advantage of stats guys in my online leagues by buying low and selling high, knowing ratings (esp w/o scouts) are the best predictor of future performance. Hidden ratings... maybe does something, but not more than the effect of a keen eye of how a player's stats are affected by other factors. __________________ UBL - Best Online League Evar! - Los Angeles Dodgers: 25 seasons, 13 NL West titles, 4 WC, 8 NL Titles, 5-time Champs LBB v5 league (retired) - Detroit Tigers/Commish: 19 seasons, 18 straight AL Central titles, 2006, 2008, 2014, 2015 Champs! NGBL v6 league (dead) - Texas Rangers: 10 seasons, 4 AL South titles, 2 Wild Cards, one WS app

04-07-2005, 02:17 AM	#23
mkjhartmann Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 82	I use ratings for call ups, but stats for line up positions and playing time. And sometines those high ratings guys just don't get the stats and back on the bus it is! I think the full blown design is very well balanced and representative of whatever little I know about baseball. Wonderful game, whichever way you play it. Mike

04-07-2005, 08:48 PM	#25
ravinhood Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 374 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	The scouts are such liars, if I depended on them for whether players should play in the big leagues, I wouldn't even have a team. I've never seen so many "this player should not play in the big leagues" or "this player is a lifetime minor league player" and I put them in the big game and they turn into superstars. But, at any rate I go by "stats and performance" most of all, of course the ratings are semi-helpful in determining when they get opportunities and at what batting position they start out, but, their performance from then on determines how they move up in the lineup or even if they remain. I don't even look at talent ratings at all. It's all in the actual performance baby. hehe

04-08-2005, 02:06 AM	#27
benchwarmer Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 1,461	Ratings, ratings, ratings.

04-08-2005, 10:47 AM	#28
Ramzavail All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NY Posts: 618	Im a big fan of the 100 rating scale on all levels Ive never tried going without ratings, that would be interesting.

04-17-2005, 03:32 AM	#30
FamundaCheese Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 116	I started playing the game with all the ratings on, but now after a year of playing and after really really getting into baseball thanks to Moneyball, Bill James, Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus i've turned of all ratings except other for the fielding and for the most part simply ingore the scouting reports. Recently i was browsing through my minors and noticed a MR who had been in my minors for 6 years, :sidenote, i took over the club after the first 5 years:, he had bounce all the way from A to AAA and back to A. But after looking at his stats i notices that he consistenlty had a high K/9 and a low BB/9 plus a WHIP at or below 1.00 . The scouting report said he was a project player who would never pan out. I figured what the hell and called him up to the show. Guess what, he was a VERY productive setup man and is now one the mainstays in my bullpen. So in short, STATS.

04-17-2005, 10:12 PM	#31
Ken Bujold Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 13	all depends on what mode i am in. If i am field managing then its stats with ratings off. If i am gm then its both, since the greater part of any gm's job is processing the information provided by his scouts (ratings) and acting upon his manager's needs (stats)