Promoted to ? every single day - Page 2

gmo · 02-09-2005, 12:24 PM

Heard of this once before, or at least something similar:
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=85554

Unfortunately it appears nothing was really figured out in that case.

phenom · 02-09-2005, 12:37 PM

it's an epidemic, I tell ya!

I fear there may not be an answer here. So far, all the players I've checked with this problem are teh suk in a very bad way, so hopefully it won't be a problem.

Still, any feedback would be appreciated.

phenom · 02-10-2005, 07:43 AM

bump?

sporr · 02-10-2005, 10:02 AM

Is this an online league? Even though teams are human controlled was auto-manage minors ever used?

phenom · 02-10-2005, 11:55 AM

yes - online league.

auto minors was likely used.

Anachronism · 02-10-2005, 12:36 PM

What has happened, it sounds like, is a human owner has "released" a player from his roster on his machine - which effectively KILLS that player. Then, on an export, he is no longer on the team, but the database for the league still registers him as being on the team....

My guess anyway...

sporr · 02-10-2005, 12:38 PM

How many players are at each level of the minors on these teams? Is it possible that these are the "extra" players over the limit of 50 per level that are dropping off?

sporr · 02-10-2005, 01:04 PM

Ok, judging by the fact that these players are getting "promoted" every day, I would have to guess that the minors are on autopilot for that team. I'm not sure how to get the players back, but the first step would be to turn the minors back over to human control if they aren't. Then use the "Auto-manage minors" button as needed if that's what the owner prefers.

BigCity · 02-10-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sporr

Ok, judging by the fact that these players are getting "promoted" every day, I would have to guess that the minors are on autopilot for that team. I'm not sure how to get the players back, but the first step would be to turn the minors back over to human control if they aren't. Then use the "Auto-manage minors" button as needed if that's what the owner prefers.

Good point. Try and fix the issue with the game options, then rework the rosters if necessary. If the game options won't fix the problem, then it's some level of corruption.

phenom · 02-10-2005, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sporr

Ok, judging by the fact that these players are getting "promoted" every day, I would have to guess that the minors are on autopilot for that team. I'm not sure how to get the players back, but the first step would be to turn the minors back over to human control if they aren't. Then use the "Auto-manage minors" button as needed if that's what the owner prefers.

so when the team is switched from CPU to Human control, the minors could still be under CPU control?

phenom · 02-10-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anachronism

What has happened, it sounds like, is a human owner has "released" a player from his roster on his machine - which effectively KILLS that player. Then, on an export, he is no longer on the team, but the database for the league still registers him as being on the team....

My guess anyway...

this issue is supposed to be fixed in 6.11, and is not effecting guys who I know have been released in-game, prior to export.

sporr · 02-10-2005, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenom

so when the team is switched from CPU to Human control, the minors could still be under CPU control?

There is a button on the Transactions screen that basically allows you to let the CPU move players at the click of the button so that you don't have to. That way you don't have to have auto-minors enabled at all times. As I said, I don't know if this will fix the problem entirely since it's possible that the same thing could happen when you click the button, but it's the only possible solution I can think of. I have only seen this problem once before and I don't remember the circumstances surrounding it.

phenom · 02-10-2005, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sporr

There is a button on the Transactions screen that basically allows you to let the CPU move players at the click of the button so that you don't have to. That way you don't have to have auto-minors enabled at all times. As I said, I don't know if this will fix the problem entirely since it's possible that the same thing could happen when you click the button, but it's the only possible solution I can think of. I have only seen this problem once before and I don't remember the circumstances surrounding it.

Well, I have had GMs use the auto manage minors button in the transaction screen. However, is there an option, maybe in the league setup, that turns off CPU control of minors?

sporr · 02-10-2005, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenom

Well, I have had GMs use the auto manage minors button in the transaction screen. However, is there an option, maybe in the league setup, that turns off CPU control of minors?

Each individual team has this toggle on the Team Setup screen. I couldn't access this in your league file since it's password protected, but that's my only guess for what could be leading to this. Don't get me wrong, it's still a bug of some sort. But this may allow you to stop it from happening again.

phenom · 02-10-2005, 03:36 PM

okay. So it might be wise to suggest they not use that button then, eh?

sporr · 02-10-2005, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenom

okay. So it might be wise to suggest they not use that button then, eh?

Yeah, I wouldn't have the auto-manage minors set to ON in the team setup screen. Instead, they can just click the button on the transactions screen as needed.

phenom · 02-10-2005, 08:22 PM

great, thanks. I'll be sure to change that with my next file.

btw, you've got mail.

phenom · 02-10-2005, 08:24 PM

dola,

you're right. I just went thru the teams, and the ones with problems have computer-managed minors. Thanks, sporr.

sporr · 02-10-2005, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenom

great, thanks. I'll be sure to change that with my next file.

btw, you've got mail.

Thanks to you as well.

Comedian2004 · 02-10-2005, 10:30 PM

I knew this was a bug when I reported it 3 months ago. For some reason, no one in the company reponded to that thread or this one.

02-09-2005, 12:37 PM	#22
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	it's an epidemic, I tell ya! I fear there may not be an answer here. So far, all the players I've checked with this problem are teh suk in a very bad way, so hopefully it won't be a problem. Still, any feedback would be appreciated. __________________ reported

02-10-2005, 07:43 AM	#23
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	bump? __________________ reported

02-10-2005, 11:55 AM	#25
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	yes - online league. auto minors was likely used. __________________ reported

02-10-2005, 12:36 PM	#26
Anachronism All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 945	What has happened, it sounds like, is a human owner has "released" a player from his roster on his machine - which effectively KILLS that player. Then, on an export, he is no longer on the team, but the database for the league still registers him as being on the team.... My guess anyway... __________________ "Ruth did it on Beer and Hotdogs..."

02-10-2005, 03:36 PM	#35
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	okay. So it might be wise to suggest they not use that button then, eh? __________________ reported

02-09-2005, 12:24 PM	#21
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 3,409	Heard of this once before, or at least something similar: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=85554 Unfortunately it appears nothing was really figured out in that case.

02-10-2005, 10:02 AM	#24
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Is this an online league? Even though teams are human controlled was auto-manage minors ever used?

02-10-2005, 12:38 PM	#27
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	How many players are at each level of the minors on these teams? Is it possible that these are the "extra" players over the limit of 50 per level that are dropping off?

02-10-2005, 01:04 PM	#28
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Ok, judging by the fact that these players are getting "promoted" every day, I would have to guess that the minors are on autopilot for that team. I'm not sure how to get the players back, but the first step would be to turn the minors back over to human control if they aren't. Then use the "Auto-manage minors" button as needed if that's what the owner prefers.

02-10-2005, 08:22 PM	#37
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	great, thanks. I'll be sure to change that with my next file. btw, you've got mail. __________________ reported

02-10-2005, 08:24 PM	#38
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	dola, you're right. I just went thru the teams, and the ones with problems have computer-managed minors. Thanks, sporr. __________________ reported

02-10-2005, 10:30 PM	#40
Comedian2004 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In a house in Saint Cloud, Florida. Posts: 7,085	I knew this was a bug when I reported it 3 months ago. For some reason, no one in the company reponded to that thread or this one. __________________ Like BLUES? Visit www.smokestacklightnin.com, you will LOVE it! New show every Monday!! New Blues HOF![/COLOR][/FONT]