Who would you take? - Page 2

rudel.dietrich · 01-13-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorsejohnny

You must be a Red Sox fan (Roberts).

Runner on 1st can't score on single. But he can't steal second,third and home neither. He could get to third but somebody still has to knock him in. Clutch hitters (Tony Gwynn) often get singles which sometimes are just as important as 2b or hrs. There is no such thing as a clutch runner. At least I never heard of it.

Alot will argue that there is no such thing as a clutch hitter. I would not go that far but I will say that if you drop any decent hitter into the 4th spot in a good team he will hit his 100 RBI.
We are socialized to see 100 RBI and think wow...good hitter. You have to train yourself to look beyond that. Now I look at a guy and see 100 runs and think. Good player who is doing his job.
And players could steal second third and home...just no one does it anymore.
If you dropped Ty Cobb in front of a modern power hitting player then they would challenge Hack Wilsons record.
But you have these asshats who think it's cool to hit 15 hr and strike out 100 times instead of hit .280 and walk 75 times.

rudel.dietrich · 01-13-2005, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorsejohnny

What would you say about a hitter with 120 runs and 120 rbis?

Allstar

If he keeps it up HOF

crazyhorsejohnny · 01-13-2005, 01:23 AM

http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp

You might be right!

Jonzard · 01-13-2005, 07:18 AM

I think..... Wells

Cyclone792 · 01-13-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Most overrated stat in baseball.

I can't decide who I would take. Wilkerson is a very agressive hitter who hits into alot of outs. Wells tends to wait for his pitch and thus gets more hits.
Neither is a great base stealer but wells seems to have a high success rate.
Wells has ALOT of GIDP. Three times as much in any given season.
It's a total toss up with me. I think I could take either one and be happy.

Not sure where you get Wilkerson making more outs. His OBP is much higher than Wells' OBP, therefore he makes less outs.

Long_Long_Name · 01-13-2005, 01:58 PM

That's a pretty interesting face-to-face.

rudel.dietrich · 01-13-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclone792

Not sure where you get Wilkerson making more outs. His OBP is much higher than Wells' OBP, therefore he makes less outs.

Oops. I got them mixed up.

01-13-2005, 07:18 AM	#24
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	I think..... Wells __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

01-13-2005, 01:58 PM	#26
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	That's a pretty interesting face-to-face. __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

01-13-2005, 01:23 AM	#23
crazyhorsejohnny All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 818	http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp You might be right!