Ancient and deadly bug still in 6.03

[phenom]

Originally Posted by Anachronism

As for commercial software - I am a HUGE gamer... XBox, GCN, PS2, PC, etc.. etc.. and you know... I cannot remember a single console game crashing or having major flaws...

MVP Baseball 2004 and the lefty bug.

[Anachronism]

Originally Posted by phenom

MVP Baseball 2004 and the lefty bug.

yes... and I do believe that that bug was patched.

[phenom]

in the PC version, but not for the PS2.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by phenom

must not be for any software company whose products I've purchased.

She *hates* people and companies that won't fix their bugs, so she resolved never to be one of them.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by Eckstein 4 Prez

If it was just this one bug I'd be inclined to agree with you, but this is symptomatic of a larger issue - the fact that once 80% of the bugs are fixed in a patch, the game is pronounced "good enough," and the new version, complete with the 20% of the bugs that survive from the previous version, is worked on exclusively.

This just won't do - particularly when the 20% has become cumulative over several versions.

Bingo!

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by Anachronism

Granted - Markus doesn't have the resources of the gaming company giants - but isn't the methodology the same? Idea - plan - code - debug/test - fix - test - release?

You left out the last part:

bug hunt - patch - bug hunt - patch - bug hunt - patch - bug hunt - patch - bug hunt - patch - bug hunt - patch - until all bugs are exterminated.

[phenom]

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

She *hates* people and companies that won't fix their bugs, so she resolved never to be one of them.

unfortunately, I'd bet she codes products I'd probably never have a use for.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by phenom

unfortunately, I'd bet she codes products I'd probably never have a use for.

Sadly true, unless you do animation or automation.

[phenom]

wait... animation?

[DaveHorn]

Originally Posted by Henry

and to delay it to insure ALL the V6 issues were fixed would not be a good business decision.

BS. Your point is easy to make because you are speaking in bogus absolutes. Any major piece of software is never bug free. Bugs compounding with more bugs with each version that continue to get ignored is obviously beginning to upset a lot of customers. SI might just find that it will be a BAD business decision to NOT fix some of these bugs when they discover the number of customer who purchased v5 or v6 and have no interest in purchasing v7 and when they discover OOTP is a very geeky niche group of PC gamers and the product is going to sell like crap off the game store shelf. When they lose a large number of the dedicated customers and the product flops because it doesn't sell well of the shelf...then what?

[Anachronism]

Originally Posted by DaveHorn

BS. Your point is easy to make because you are speaking in bogus absolutes. Any major piece of software is never bug free. Bugs compounding with more bugs with each version that continue to get ignored is obviously beginning to upset a lot of customers. SI might just find that it will be a BAD business decision to NOT fix some of these bugs when they discover the number of customer who purchased v5 or v6 and have no interest in purchasing v7 and when they discover OOTP is a very geeky niche group of PC gamers and the product is going to sell like crap off the game store shelf. When they lose a large number of the dedicated customers and the product flops because it doesn't sell well of the shelf...then what?

especially when some of us are ALREADY holding off purchasing version 6 until we start hearing better/more stable things about it...

Don't get me wrong - I LOVE OOTP and thank the stars that Marcus has brought us this amazing game... but I'm not willing to risk our league right now on 6....