Two Gm Spots Open In EBL*D'backs & Mariners - Page 2

Jeremy Weimer · 02-14-2004, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by Cowboys3356
I will never leave him alone and I will continue to expose him every time he attempts to join a league. Maybe the owner of this league knew about him but the owner of the another league thread I posted in had NO idea who he was. Fitdog must be monitored and controlled. Whether or not I post about him is not your concern. It is one post in a thread and you don't have to read it if you don't want to.

So let me get this straight, you basically made yourself the person to go around and warn everyone that he has had trouble in the past but then you turn around and tell me whether you post about him isn't my concern? Honestly, who the f*ck made you the enforcer of these forums? The last time I checked there are actual mods on these forums, and you're not one of them. If it would be anyone's job to monitor a person it would be their's, not yours. So why don't you get off the high horse and quit acting like a dick? It's honestly none of your business whether people know about him or not, and it's getting old for you to ruin every thread he posts in by saying "Oh, he's a cheater! Watch out for him! AHAHAH! CHEATER!"

And the whole statement about I don't have to read your post in a thread if I don't want to, the point is your post shouldn't be there in the first place, so I shouldn't have to worry about whether I want to read it or not. There's no need for you to come along and post in every thread that he posts in and let people know who he is. 99% of the people around here really don't care anymore and are getting sick of it. You honestly need a life if you have nothing better to do than to follow the guy around and post in every thread he does warning commishes about him. You take this game way too seriously.

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-14-2004, 08:53 PM

What he said.

clarnzz · 02-14-2004, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by TheSpiceOfLife
What he said.

Ya know, if you could ever figure out when it is a good time to just keep your mouth shut, then Jeremy's post would have a lot more weight.

You are a lieing, cheating, stealing, trolling, attention whore, that gets his jollys off exactly what is going on here. You seem to think Jeremy is defending you, he's not. He is just sick of hearing about it.

Karen Lutz · 02-14-2004, 09:01 PM

well, this thread was almost actually decent. Can it get back on track? Only time will tell.

Henry · 02-14-2004, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Karen Lutz
...Can it get back on track?

I wouldn't hold my breath

Henry

Dean Gordon · 02-14-2004, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by clarnzz
Is there anyone in more than one EBL? That would be kinda cool.

Bob: "How many OOTP leagues are you in?"

Marvis: "4"

Bob: "Which ones?"

Marvis: "Elite Baseball League"

Bob: "I thought you said you were in four leagues."

Maris: "I am, I am in Elite Baseball League"

I had an owner who wanted a team in the EBL and was already in one or two other EBLs.... had to seriously ask him if he thought it would be a tad confusing to have 3 damn EBL leagues he was in.....

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Originally posted by Jeremy Weimer
You take this game way too seriously.

Dude, dude - baseball is never a game. Baseball is life...

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-14-2004, 09:49 PM

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Dude, dude - baseball is never a game. Baseball is life...

AMEN.

rem · 02-15-2004, 12:55 AM

I wonder how many ABL and UBL's there are?

Anyways, I was the first to reply Fit Dog and my post was deleted. I said something like "An alias is kinda of dumb if everyone knows who your really are" I didn't say who he really was or accuse him of cheating. I wasn't trying to start anything but was just kinda of amazed he thought this would actually work.

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-15-2004, 01:27 AM

I wasn't trying to make anyone not know who I was. I put my name down as Michael Fitterer, and my AIM, so how was I an alias.

crackpott · 02-15-2004, 01:38 AM

I think two things need to happen before Fitterer gets another chance.

1) Take responsibility for what he did. Until that happens I don't think anyone will ever give him a second chance.
2) Be willing to accept any extra surveillance, trade vetoes, whatever else for his first chance back in a league.

That being said, regarding "warning commishes" ...most of us know. You're right, some do not. I think it's a good idea maybe for one person to calmly point out his past, and link to a thread, but there's no need to get your blood pressure all up and hijack the thread.

Depending on how you define second chance, he's never really gotten one (many aliases on the board... he's TRIED, but never had one.) I don't think he should until he admits what he's done and takes responsibility for it, but if that happens I think as long as he's monitored, someone should give him a shot.

(I just noticed the parallel's between this and Rose...)

Dean Gordon · 02-15-2004, 01:49 AM

Okay - someone just refresh my memory as to what an owner can do to cheat after all the patches we've had.. I thought the financials were tamper-proof via eport as well as player ratings, etc... of course, multiple ownership in a league is still there, but that is easy enough to police....

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-15-2004, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by crackpott
I think two things need to happen before Fitterer gets another chance.

1) Take responsibility for what he did. Until that happens I don't think anyone will ever give him a second chance.
2) Be willing to accept any extra surveillance, trade vetoes, whatever else for his first chance back in a league.

That being said, regarding "warning commishes" ...most of us know. You're right, some do not. I think it's a good idea maybe for one person to calmly point out his past, and link to a thread, but there's no need to get your blood pressure all up and hijack the thread.

Depending on how you define second chance, he's never really gotten one (many aliases on the board... he's TRIED, but never had one.) I don't think he should until he admits what he's done and takes responsibility for it, but if that happens I think as long as he's monitored, someone should give him a shot.

(I just noticed the parallel's between this and Rose...)

I have already stated before that some things were done that were considered cheating, but I have not once edited players on my team. There were things I did that is considered cheating, and I kinda knew this but kinda didn't at that time. The things I did do that were called cheating by you guys was the simming the world series three times(as which was done so that i didnt win the world series).

Now I can explain for that being done:
I have never in my own leagues wanted to win the world series, I of course would love to win a world series in someone elses league, as no claims of cheating would come up, but in my league's, I dont wanna win the ws, I want to make a dynasty and get some great players and years, thats all.

Other things that i did, atleats in my old league, not in RealBeisbol, were editing ASSORTED players in the league; NOT MY teams. I hate the aging factor in OOTP5, and some of the players were edited to get them back to where I felt they should have stayed at before they dropped due to age.

Also, some might state that my ratings on my team are overly high, but I edited nearly every player in the league, everyones ratings are higher then in most leagues. I also feel that in my league the stats are much more realistic then in others because of the editing I did.

I hope this can allow me to be able to gain some acceptance back into leagues. I dont by a far shot expect everyone to accept me back in the community, but do expect some of you to.

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-15-2004, 02:00 AM

Double Post

crackpott · 02-15-2004, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Dean Gordon
Okay - someone just refresh my memory as to what an owner can do to cheat after all the patches we've had.. I thought the financials were tamper-proof via eport as well as player ratings, etc... of course, multiple ownership in a league is still there, but that is easy enough to police....

It's effectively possible for an owner to bypass the commissioner settings. I'd rather not elaborate on how, since there's no point having MORE people know that information, but it is there. If that is the case, they can see "correct" ratings in leagues with scout or talent only, can sim ahead to see projected player development....

I know they can't screw with financials, but I'm not sure about player ratings. I would assume not, but I don't know.

clarnzz · 02-15-2004, 02:48 AM

Just so anyone knows, everything Fitterer just said is a lie. Besides all his other wrongdoings, I have a copy of the original "Real Beisbol" (the league he commishes) file, and there have been quite a few changes.

I outlined the adjustments made to players who made a stop in Florida in just intangibles that do not change in the game naturally, from then to now. Players that had been on his team were the ONLY players I could find changed in any of these departments:

Previous outlined in this thread

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Fitsy is definatly a firm believer in intangibles. He has allocated alot of his editing points to them.

Original Real Beisbol File ------> Now
Josh Beckett
Leadership: None ------ > Great
Consistency: Very Inconsistant -------> Good
Injury: Normal -------> Durable
Loyalty: Minimal, Doesnt Care -----> Loyal

Brandon Webb
Leadership: None -------> Some Ability
Consistency: Average -------> Good
Clutch: Normal --------> Great
Loyalty: Minimal, Doesn't Care -----> Loyal

C Craig Wilson 26 years old
Leadership: None -------> Some ability
Consistency: Very Incosistant -------> Good
Clutch: Suffers -------> Great
Loyalty: Minimal, Doesnt Care -------> Loyal

AJ Burnett
Leadership : None -------> Great Leader
Consistency: Very Inconsistant -----> Good
Clutch: Normal --------> Great
Loyalty : Minimal, Doesn't Care -------> Average

Carl Pavano
Clutch: Normal --------> Great

Jeff Conine
Clutch: Normal -------> Great
Consistency : Average -------> Good

Rick Helling
Clutch : Normal ------> Great
Consistency : Average -------> Good

Braden Looper
Clutch : Normal ------> Great
Consistency : Very Inconsistant ------> Good

Ugeth Urbina
Clutch : Normal -------> Great
Consistency: Very Inconsistant ------> Good

Luis Castillo
Clutch : Normal ------> Great

Manny Ramirez
Consistency : Very Inconsistant ------> Good

If anyone would like a copy of the original Real Beisbol now to confirm the changes, I will make it availiable for download. I put my entire reputation on the line that it is 100% authentic and I did not tamper with it any way.

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-15-2004, 02:59 AM

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Originally posted by clarnzz
Just so anyone knows, everything Fitterer just said is a lie. Besides all his other wrongdoings, I have a copy of the original "Real Beisbol" file, and there have been quite a few changes.

I outlined the adjustments made to players who made a stop in Florida in just intangibles that do not change in the game naturally, from then to now. Players that had been on his team were the ONLY players I could find changed in any of these departments:

Previous outlined in this thread

If anyone would like a copy of the original Real Beisbol now to confirm the changes, I will make it availiable for download. I put my entire reputation on the line that it is 100% authentic and I did not tamper with it any way.

There is one problem with what you just said, I didnt have an original file that you could possibly have, I got it from a commish of a league I used to be in, called the Big Tiem Stars Baseball League. Commish name was Brandon Bowlie. I dont remember his name or email, but will try and find those so you can talk to him.

None of the consistency/clutch ratings were even looked at by me, so if they are changed, then it was by him. I will get him to vouch for this when I get his info if I can find it.

Also, if you think you have the right file, you mind sharing with me which file it is? What roster set are you looking at?

clarnzz · 02-15-2004, 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by TheSpiceOfLife
There is one problem with what you just said, I didnt have an original file that you could possibly have, I got it from a commish of a league I used to be in, called the Big Tiem Stars Baseball League. Commish name was Brandon Bowlie. I dont remember his name or email, but will try and find those so you can talk to him.

None of the consistency/clutch ratings were even looked at by me, so if they are changed, then it was by him. I will get him to vouch for this when I get his info if I can find it.

Also, if you think you have the right file, you mind sharing with me which file it is? What roster set are you looking at?

I don't mean the file you used to create Real Beisbol. I mean the original Real Beisbol league file made availiable when the league first started.

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-15-2004, 03:01 AM

That's not true, you don't have that because I as well as one other person in my league have that. And you don't have access to them, so how would you have obtained it?

clarnzz · 02-15-2004, 03:02 AM

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Originally posted by TheSpiceOfLife
That's not true, you don't have that because I as well as one other person in my league have that. And you don't have access to them, so how would you have obtained it?

I downloaded it when the league very first started, thought it might come in handy.

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-15-2004, 03:02 AM

Not to mention the first file we put out was a regular Rocco Trade Deadline Roster set, then i got word from Brandon that he had a set that he had that was better. So I took that and implemented it during the contraction draft, so if you got the file somehow during the draft, which was about 2 weeks after we started, then you would have the right file, but I highly doubt that.

02-15-2004, 12:55 AM	#28
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	I wonder how many ABL and UBL's there are? Anyways, I was the first to reply Fit Dog and my post was deleted. I said something like "An alias is kinda of dumb if everyone knows who your really are" I didn't say who he really was or accuse him of cheating. I wasn't trying to start anything but was just kinda of amazed he thought this would actually work. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

02-15-2004, 01:38 AM	#30
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	I think two things need to happen before Fitterer gets another chance. 1) Take responsibility for what he did. Until that happens I don't think anyone will ever give him a second chance. 2) Be willing to accept any extra surveillance, trade vetoes, whatever else for his first chance back in a league. That being said, regarding "warning commishes" ...most of us know. You're right, some do not. I think it's a good idea maybe for one person to calmly point out his past, and link to a thread, but there's no need to get your blood pressure all up and hijack the thread. Depending on how you define second chance, he's never really gotten one (many aliases on the board... he's TRIED, but never had one.) I don't think he should until he admits what he's done and takes responsibility for it, but if that happens I think as long as he's monitored, someone should give him a shot. (I just noticed the parallel's between this and Rose...) __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

02-14-2004, 08:53 PM	#22
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	What he said.

02-14-2004, 09:01 PM	#24
Karen Lutz Ball Breaker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada OOTPChampionships: 5 Posts: 898	well, this thread was almost actually decent. Can it get back on track? Only time will tell.

02-15-2004, 01:27 AM	#29
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	I wasn't trying to make anyone not know who I was. I put my name down as Michael Fitterer, and my AIM, so how was I an alias.

02-15-2004, 01:49 AM	#31
Dean Gordon Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 354	Okay - someone just refresh my memory as to what an owner can do to cheat after all the patches we've had.. I thought the financials were tamper-proof via eport as well as player ratings, etc... of course, multiple ownership in a league is still there, but that is easy enough to police....

02-15-2004, 02:00 AM	#33
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	Double Post

02-15-2004, 03:01 AM	#38
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	That's not true, you don't have that because I as well as one other person in my league have that. And you don't have access to them, so how would you have obtained it?

02-15-2004, 03:02 AM	#40
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	Not to mention the first file we put out was a regular Rocco Trade Deadline Roster set, then i got word from Brandon that he had a set that he had that was better. So I took that and implemented it during the contraction draft, so if you got the file somehow during the draft, which was about 2 weeks after we started, then you would have the right file, but I highly doubt that.