Best OOTP Leagues on the Net - Page 2

PotatoPeeler · 02-06-2004, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Karen Lutz
when did I say they were the same? There is just no real way to judge every single league out there to decide the 1 and only allmighty "best". Who is to say this league is better than that league? This sort of thing is really futile IMO.

If it's pointless, then why bother posting in this thread? I don't understand your motivation for this statement. If the guy is wasting his time with this thread, why do you care?

Chappy · 02-06-2004, 05:10 PM

I guess that's just what Ball Breakers do.

Leahcim · 02-06-2004, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by PotatoPeeler
If it's pointless, then why bother posting in this thread?

Not only did she bother posting in this thread, she posted three times, saying it was pointless, futile, and unachievable.

If the guy can't take the hint I guess she can always lock it.

IatricSB · 02-06-2004, 05:53 PM

GDBA and MLB Century are usually regarded as the two longest. GDBA just finished its 27th season, I think MLB Century is starting up on its 31st season if I counted right (In real time, they both started at about the same time). Boys of Summer just finished its 20th season (should have thrown a party) and has been active since October of 2001 (and still has half of the original owners).

I agree with Karen and the others in that its hard to be subjective since everyone has something different they want out of a league. Some like lots of trading, others a lot of trash talking, and still others appreciate the laid back approach.

PotatoPeeler · 02-06-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Leahcim
Not only did she bother posting in this thread, she posted three times, saying it was pointless, futile, and unachievable. If the guy can't take the hint I guess she can always lock it.

Hahahahaha!

Karen Lutz · 02-06-2004, 08:48 PM

No, I won't lock it because it is on topic and a fine debate. The reason I posted was to ensure the people who did post in favor of this idea understand that it simply isn't going to happen. Even if you do attempt to make a list of all the longest running leagues, even then you won’t have all the best ones. And since a lot of people have felt the need to use this thread as a springboard for advertising a league then I will too, my best example is the WBL (in my sig). It is only in season 3 but from all my experience there isn't a better league.

Jestre made a very valid point, the most 'popular' ones cannot be judged by the people who simply post the most in favor of their league, but it always ends up that way.

I can't even agree with some of the things people have used to judge a good league right away. I myself am a stickler for a nice website, but I know a nice or bad site doesn't make a good or bad league, it is just a preference. Even saying the commish has to be a nice guy and answer every IM isn't a good way to judge. Although I admit a nice and responsive commish is a huge plus, as long as he does his job I don't care if he is chatty with people who aren't in his league or not.

A thing like this is based way too much on opinion for it to actually happen. So count this as post #4 to try and reinforce the fact, the best league is in the eye of the beholder.

Deft · 02-07-2004, 01:28 AM

Always have to chime in on this one, but alot of the same leagues popup here year after year. I would say participation is a key, and overall owner retention. I believe the ATHL (link in my signature) is one of the best. Biased opinion of course.

rem · 02-07-2004, 01:46 AM

With apologies to AOBL, SMLB is the best league I’m in. I probably enjoyed the re-draft of SMLB the most but winning the World Series helped a lot there.

Karen Lutz · 02-07-2004, 03:20 AM

yes, yes, this thread is one big advertisment, lol, which is all it will be. So enjoy it and rest assured, this is as close to a "best league" vote you will ever get because it can't happen. Sorry if that bothers anyone, but reality sets in before delusions.

treedom · 02-07-2004, 03:44 AM

nobody dissagreed with you...why do you keep repeating it?

Crapshoot · 02-07-2004, 04:14 AM

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Originally posted by UD411Flyer
Babe Ruth took steriods?

and we're off to the troll races...

On topic, I think the OTBL is pretty damn cool. From my impression, if one were to crown a "best" league, the Maelstrom is probably the way to go..

danwaechter · 02-07-2004, 11:30 AM

I looked at Maelstrom a while ago, and although it is very cool in a lot of ways, and very well run, I think there's way too many incentives for articles/lineup submission etc... I think thats my main beef with a lot of leagues. If its a good league, then owners should participate willingly, and not need any incentives.

As for the topic at hand, for me personally, the best league is one with a great commish who can do all of his duties plus some, and great owners who participate willingly and frequently. Thats really all you need. My favourite league has been going for over 3 real years, currently in our 8th year sim-time(not including lost years). An amazing thing is how even after the data of the first 2 seasons were lost, the owners still kept together and kept the league.

02-06-2004, 05:10 PM	#22
Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	I guess that's just what Ball Breakers do. __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals

02-06-2004, 05:53 PM	#24
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	GDBA and MLB Century are usually regarded as the two longest. GDBA just finished its 27th season, I think MLB Century is starting up on its 31st season if I counted right (In real time, they both started at about the same time). Boys of Summer just finished its 20th season (should have thrown a party) and has been active since October of 2001 (and still has half of the original owners). I agree with Karen and the others in that its hard to be subjective since everyone has something different they want out of a league. Some like lots of trading, others a lot of trash talking, and still others appreciate the laid back approach. __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

02-07-2004, 01:28 AM	#27
Deft All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,111	Always have to chime in on this one, but alot of the same leagues popup here year after year. I would say participation is a key, and overall owner retention. I believe the ATHL (link in my signature) is one of the best. Biased opinion of course. __________________ ATHL Louisville Jockeys (2001-present) 2002, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2020 World Champions Uniform Template 1.2

02-07-2004, 01:46 AM	#28
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	With apologies to AOBL, SMLB is the best league I’m in. I probably enjoyed the re-draft of SMLB the most but winning the World Series helped a lot there. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0 Last edited by rem; 04-03-2004 at 06:02 PM.

02-07-2004, 03:44 AM	#30
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	nobody dissagreed with you...why do you keep repeating it? __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

02-06-2004, 08:48 PM	#26
Karen Lutz Ball Breaker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada OOTPChampionships: 5 Posts: 898	No, I won't lock it because it is on topic and a fine debate. The reason I posted was to ensure the people who did post in favor of this idea understand that it simply isn't going to happen. Even if you do attempt to make a list of all the longest running leagues, even then you won’t have all the best ones. And since a lot of people have felt the need to use this thread as a springboard for advertising a league then I will too, my best example is the WBL (in my sig). It is only in season 3 but from all my experience there isn't a better league. Jestre made a very valid point, the most 'popular' ones cannot be judged by the people who simply post the most in favor of their league, but it always ends up that way. I can't even agree with some of the things people have used to judge a good league right away. I myself am a stickler for a nice website, but I know a nice or bad site doesn't make a good or bad league, it is just a preference. Even saying the commish has to be a nice guy and answer every IM isn't a good way to judge. Although I admit a nice and responsive commish is a huge plus, as long as he does his job I don't care if he is chatty with people who aren't in his league or not. A thing like this is based way too much on opinion for it to actually happen. So count this as post #4 to try and reinforce the fact, the best league is in the eye of the beholder.

02-07-2004, 03:20 AM	#29
Karen Lutz Ball Breaker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada OOTPChampionships: 5 Posts: 898	yes, yes, this thread is one big advertisment, lol, which is all it will be. So enjoy it and rest assured, this is as close to a "best league" vote you will ever get because it can't happen. Sorry if that bothers anyone, but reality sets in before delusions.

02-07-2004, 11:30 AM	#32
danwaechter Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 67	I looked at Maelstrom a while ago, and although it is very cool in a lot of ways, and very well run, I think there's way too many incentives for articles/lineup submission etc... I think thats my main beef with a lot of leagues. If its a good league, then owners should participate willingly, and not need any incentives. As for the topic at hand, for me personally, the best league is one with a great commish who can do all of his duties plus some, and great owners who participate willingly and frequently. Thats really all you need. My favourite league has been going for over 3 real years, currently in our 8th year sim-time(not including lost years). An amazing thing is how even after the data of the first 2 seasons were lost, the owners still kept together and kept the league.