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matskralc · 01-16-2004, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by crackpott
I don't consider that news, they're not all that great.

I was just hoping for a chance to see Brian Giles' name in print over there.

SanDiegoPadres19 · 01-16-2004, 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by crackpott
I don't consider that news, they're not all that great.

They as in the Padres or they as in the outfielders?

I will say it now, Padres will win the west in 2004.

crackpott · 01-16-2004, 03:11 AM

the OF's. Quantity does not equal quality. And any article where I need to mention Terrence Long just has bad idea written all over it.

holyroller · 01-16-2004, 03:12 AM

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Originally posted by SanDiegoPadres19
They as in the Padres or they as in the outfielders?

I will say it now, Padres will win the west in 2004.

If their young pitchers step up, they have a very good chance. The Dodgers are backstepping and the Rockies are...well, the Rockies. That leaves the Giants and D'Backs. The Giants have Barry Bonds which makes them an instant contender while the D'Backs are probably too old.

crackpott · 01-16-2004, 03:15 AM

also consider the D-backs lost two of their best pitchers.

holyroller · 01-16-2004, 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by crackpott
also consider the D-backs lost two of their best pitchers.

Yup. Sexson will certainly help the offense, but who will fill out the rotation behind Johnson?

crackpott · 01-16-2004, 03:18 AM

Ya, not like they have any young pitchers to throw. No one who should have won rookie of the year or anything. All four spots are up for grabs.

holyroller · 01-16-2004, 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by crackpott
Ya, not like they have any young pitchers to throw. No one who should have won rookie of the year or anything. All four spots are up for grabs.

ROFL

Yeah, Webb is certain to be in the rotation as is Dessens because they traded Erubiel Durazo to get him. After that is anyone's guess.

SanDiegoPadres19 · 01-16-2004, 03:23 AM

Padres in 04 baby!!

SP-David Wells
SP-Adam Eaton
SP-Brian Lawernce
SP-Jake Peavy
SP-Ismael Valdes/Sterling Hitchcock

Pen with Beck, Hoffman and Otsuka

Lineup-

1-Burroughs- .300 hitter w/ 10-15 Home Runs
2-Payton-.300 hitter with 20 HR's[if he stays healthy]
3-Giles-.280 with 40 home run power
4-Klesko-Same as Giles
5-Nevin-Same as Giles and Klesko
6-Hernandez-.280 hitter with 20 HR power
7-Loretta-.300 hitter who led the Padres in 03
8-Greene-Him and Payton are the only question marks..

Bench is Nady, Sears, Long, Cirillo, Buchanan and Vázquez

crackpott · 01-16-2004, 03:26 AM

is that JAY Payton you called a .300 hitter with 20 HR? Even if healthy, this sounds like a Met fan comment (when he was still on the team anyway)

Giles is also a step above both Klesko and Nevin.

Overall, the lineup looks mediocre-slightly above average and the pitching looks average at best. I'm sticking with SF.

Edit: On second notice, Payton's splits aren't as bad as envisioned. Still, if he doesn't suffer a huge dropoff, i'll be stunned.

holyroller · 01-16-2004, 03:32 AM

I suspect the Padres will rank among the league leaders in runs scored this year barring serious injuries or slippage. The rotation is where I have doubts. Lawrence and Eaton need to rebound (an ERA over 4.00 is not very good considering the context of Qualcomm), Peavey needs to take a step forward, and Wells needs to still have some gas in the tank. If Oliver Perez would come around that would be a bonus, but the critical area for the Padres is those players stepping it up.

SanDiegoPadres19 · 01-16-2004, 03:35 AM

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Originally posted by crackpott
is that JAY Payton you called a .300 hitter with 20 HR? Even if healthy, this sounds like a Met fan comment (when he was still on the team anyway)

Giles is also a step above both Klesko and Nevin.

Overall, the lineup looks mediocre-slightly above average and the pitching looks average at best. I'm sticking with SF.

Well not a Mets fan, more like an optimistic Padres fan, but looking at his stats, Payton is a career .291 hitter. I just read a quick note today saying he had some early injury problems. So we shall see this year. As for mediocre-slighty above average, take a look at the Gnats lineup.

SP-Jason Schmidt-Top Notch SP, no doubt about it
SP-Kirk Rueter -Good innings eater, but thats it.
SP-Brett Tomko-'Nuff said
SP-Jerome Williams-Quality guy last year, but we havent seen enough.
SP-Dustin Hermanson-'Nuff said again....

Lineup-
1-Ray Durham-Good 2b
2-Edgardo Alfonzo-3b- Looking to turn it around, still good though
3-Michael Tucker -Not excatly striking fear into the pitcher
4-Barry Bonds-No need to write anything here
5-A.J. Pierzynski-Good C as long as he repeats his #'s from last year
6-Marquis Grissom-35-year-old on the down
7-Neifi Pérez-Not excatly Rich Aurilla
8-JT Snow-Good D, No Offense

holyroller · 01-16-2004, 03:37 AM

Pretty hard to overestimate the impact of Barry Bonds though. Unless he has seven Rey Ordonez's surrounding him, any lineup with Bonds is going to score runs.

crackpott · 01-16-2004, 03:37 AM

can you explain how the padres are better?

SanDiegoPadres19 · 01-16-2004, 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by holyroller
If Oliver Perez would come around that would be a bonus, but the critical area for the Padres is those players stepping it up.

If he does it will be for PITT since that was where he was traded too last year for Brian Giles.

holyroller · 01-16-2004, 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by SanDiegoPadres19
If he does it will be for PITT since that was where he was traded too last year for Brian Giles.

D'oh!

crackpott · 01-16-2004, 03:38 AM

you're getting killed in this thread, Andy.

holyroller · 01-16-2004, 03:39 AM

I know. I guess I should just change my handle to "SammyDRSosa"

SanDiegoPadres19 · 01-16-2004, 03:40 AM

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Originally posted by crackpott
can you explain how the padres are better?

No I can't excatly explain how they will be better, but on paper they look like a better team then the Giants. A new team basically, a new stadium, a great lineup and a solid staff with money to spend if need be, then i can see them winning the west.

Like mentioned before, everybody in the West has been downgrading while the Padres were upgrading[not really much to downgrade though from last year]

crackpott · 01-16-2004, 03:42 AM

If they look better on paper though, shouldn't you have an explanation for why you think they do?

new team? semi-check.
New stadium? check
Great lineup? this is what i'm looking for evidence of.
Solid staff? Well... again, evidence would be nice.

I'll acknowledge they have a chance at contending, but a LOT would have to go right for them to have a real shot at the playoffs.

01-16-2004, 03:11 AM	#23
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	the OF's. Quantity does not equal quality. And any article where I need to mention Terrence Long just has bad idea written all over it. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

01-16-2004, 03:15 AM	#25
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	also consider the D-backs lost two of their best pitchers. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

01-16-2004, 03:18 AM	#27
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	Ya, not like they have any young pitchers to throw. No one who should have won rookie of the year or anything. All four spots are up for grabs. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

01-16-2004, 03:23 AM	#29
SanDiegoPadres19 All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 937	Padres in 04 baby!! SP-David Wells SP-Adam Eaton SP-Brian Lawernce SP-Jake Peavy SP-Ismael Valdes/Sterling Hitchcock Pen with Beck, Hoffman and Otsuka Lineup- 1-Burroughs- .300 hitter w/ 10-15 Home Runs 2-Payton-.300 hitter with 20 HR's[if he stays healthy] 3-Giles-.280 with 40 home run power 4-Klesko-Same as Giles 5-Nevin-Same as Giles and Klesko 6-Hernandez-.280 hitter with 20 HR power 7-Loretta-.300 hitter who led the Padres in 03 8-Greene-Him and Payton are the only question marks.. Bench is Nady, Sears, Long, Cirillo, Buchanan and Vázquez __________________ Classic Jerry Colmanisms "Montreal leads Atlanta by three, 5-1." "They throw Winfield out at second, but he's safe." (As Matt Williams took a curtain call after hitting a home run) "Barry Bonds gets a standing ovation as he digs in." (Following the second out) ".. and the Padres win the National League Wes... oh, just got a little exicted." ************** Internet Sim Baseball League, Lo$ Angele$ Dodger$ ISBL Fictional Blog

01-16-2004, 03:26 AM	#30
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	is that JAY Payton you called a .300 hitter with 20 HR? Even if healthy, this sounds like a Met fan comment (when he was still on the team anyway) Giles is also a step above both Klesko and Nevin. Overall, the lineup looks mediocre-slightly above average and the pitching looks average at best. I'm sticking with SF. Edit: On second notice, Payton's splits aren't as bad as envisioned. Still, if he doesn't suffer a huge dropoff, i'll be stunned. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

01-16-2004, 03:32 AM	#31
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	I suspect the Padres will rank among the league leaders in runs scored this year barring serious injuries or slippage. The rotation is where I have doubts. Lawrence and Eaton need to rebound (an ERA over 4.00 is not very good considering the context of Qualcomm), Peavey needs to take a step forward, and Wells needs to still have some gas in the tank. If Oliver Perez would come around that would be a bonus, but the critical area for the Padres is those players stepping it up. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

01-16-2004, 03:37 AM	#33
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	Pretty hard to overestimate the impact of Barry Bonds though. Unless he has seven Rey Ordonez's surrounding him, any lineup with Bonds is going to score runs. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

01-16-2004, 03:38 AM	#37
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	you're getting killed in this thread, Andy. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

01-16-2004, 03:39 AM	#38
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	I know. I guess I should just change my handle to "SammyDRSosa" __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

01-16-2004, 03:42 AM	#40
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	If they look better on paper though, shouldn't you have an explanation for why you think they do? new team? semi-check. New stadium? check Great lineup? this is what i'm looking for evidence of. Solid staff? Well... again, evidence would be nice. I'll acknowledge they have a chance at contending, but a LOT would have to go right for them to have a real shot at the playoffs. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.