Owner DB for GMs

[spleen1015]

He means no one in his league is going to buy a host.

I sure hope he knows that there are folks, probably many, who put up the $$$ so that their league can have a decent web host.

This guy should try to get on the ootp-leagues.com servers.

[MTXperience]

Odd... I don't use a pop-up blocker, and I still didn't see any of these pop-ups that are being mentioned. My browser (Opera) must be filtering them...

[WBLPresident]

Originally posted by Carlton
hey wbl, like the Did you know spot. What exactly do you do there? Is it for stats or do you 'make-up' a story about one of your ficitional players?

I use stuff that actually happens in the league. Something you guys that are looking at my league may not have gathered yet is that its a completely different type of league than the team leagues that most are talking about on this message board. The league I run is a player sim. Every player in the game is someone out in the internet world, at this point we've had over 200 people at one time or another in the league and have around 60 people active at this point. Everyone has the opportunity to update their player and make them better and better. It's more like a real live league because it involves owners in real life dealing with people.

[Driver 8]

Originally posted by WBLPresident
I use stuff that actually happens in the league. Something you guys that are looking at my league may not have gathered yet is that its a completely different type of league than the team leagues that most are talking about on this message board. The league I run is a player sim. Every player in the game is someone out in the internet world, at this point we've had over 200 people at one time or another in the league and have around 60 people active at this point. Everyone has the opportunity to update their player and make them better and better. It's more like a real live league because it involves owners in real life dealing with people.

The ratings of some of these players are insane:

Blake Roberts - how does one manage to get a "60" rating in homers...

Mark Southworth

Kip Wesley

Dustin Parmelee ...or "30" in strikeouts?

Troy Vaughn


Three of these players on Great Britain's roster. They have a team era of 3.21 and a .390 team average after 40 games. I'm not trying to be facetious, but how do you plan on creating a fighting chance with edited players and one team having a 33-game lead after 1/4 of the season?

[sporr]

It does seem a little like Triple Play meets OOTP.

[WBLPresident]

well if you look at the stats there are 4 very competitive teams in the league and 4 teams that are miserable. I took over the league a while back cuz the old commish kinda quit and kinda didn't want to improve the league. So yeah its not very competitive now but I'm in the process of developing a financial system to force it to be. Player sims are extremely tough to run, and now that we got things going strong again we're going to revolutionize the sim and make if awsome.

[IatricSB]

Take a look at some of the scores too. I looked at Marc Southworth and noticed that 3 out of 4 games have scores of 22-0, 23-0, then my favorite... 70-6

[WBLPresident]

yeah like I said, things are considerably unbalanced at this point and will soon be fixed

[IatricSB]

.... and it keeps getting funnier everytime I see it

- Betelguise

[Jestre]

It's unfortunate that there can't be a 'list of losers' for commishes to watch out for. Just not feasible for the aforementioned reasons. Actually the person that Iatric was referring to in the opening of the thread is not a young pup, I know cuz it was the MLBC that he was kicked out of prior to Iatrics league. He GM'ed one of the top contending teams in the AL and completely tanked his team in the season prior to the Babe Ruth draft. Not to mention he was the AL President at the time. While perhaps the majority of the cheaters and losers are younger players it certainly isnt limited to them. Just as there are many young players that are solid, honest players and commishes. Best thing is to just have the commish and league presidents keep on the lookout for those kind of things and take immediate action.

[Killebrew]

Originally posted by IatricSB
Take a look at some of the scores too. I looked at Marc Southworth and noticed that 3 out of 4 games have scores of 22-0, 23-0, then my favorite... 70-6

Yeah, and there is some heavy editing going on in this league, just about every player I looked at was manually edited:
http://thewbl.vzz.net/p166.html (whoa - 30 rating in K's!)

That being said, even though it's not my kind of league if the owners want to use OOTP to play that style of league it might be fun. The nicknames are hilarious.

[WBLPresident]

I don't think you guys caught what I said earlier, in this league every player is someone out in the internet world. They sign up for the league, there nickname is generally their AIM and the reason their ratings are so high is because they have the opportunity to write articles, interview and such for points which they designate towards their ratings to update themselves and make themselves better. It's more like a real league to the extent that your dealing with all real people. Over time over 200 people have joined the league and at this time there are still around 60 people active.

[Driver 8]

Originally posted by Killebrew
http://thewbl.vzz.net/p166.html (whoa - 30 rating in K's!)

You know you have a league full of great SPs when you are 24 year old with Brilliants across the board (literally) and you only have a 2.5 star rating.

[John C]

I think commishes just have to communicate with one another. I know that, when I find someone who's a bad egg, I check on these boards to see if anyone has had a problem with the person. I do know, in the case of Kevin Williams/David Parker (vMLB/vNCAA), he's been making the rounds, and the word is getting out.

Truth is, if you're a big enough ass, the word will get around. This community isn't one to just sit back and not say anything.

Also, to the gentleman who said that high school kids and college kids aren't worth keeping around in this hobby, I'm not sure why you see the need to generalize. I wish I knew about this stuff when I was creating full league histories at age 12 and 13 on the old Sierra sports Football Pro. I've been in these leagues since I was 18, and was running my first league at 19. Now, as a 23-year-old journalism graduate, I've been running a league for about a year and a half, one that has a 100+ year simmed out history attached to it.

I'd be amazed if you found my league, which hasn't had turnover the past two years (and yet has over 50% high school/college aged people in it), and decided not to join because of MY age. Taking the position that you're judging on age, rather than how a person conducts themselves, is rather ridiculous and insanely ignorant.

But, then again, based on your definition, I'm just some other loud-mouthed (or fingered, in this case) punk who will wreck your fun in this hobby, rather than enhance it.

-John

[Karen Lutz]

damn, why do you have to be WBL? too many WBL's

[IatricSB]

Originally posted by IatricSB
I know this is controversial and I think it was suggested before, but its unfortunate that there isn't some way for commishes to be warned of some users prior to them joining. Nothing is fool proof though since an owner can change his identity, but it would be helpful if you knew something about some prospective owners. I know of one that's been thrown out of one league for cheating (tanking), has been accused in two other leagues and possibly one other one. Seems to me that Commishes would benefit from at least being warned ahead of time. But then I hate the idea of a blackball list since I would hate to see McCarthyism return.

Well, the same owner is at it again. Different league but the same "modus operandi".

[CommishJoe]

The worst owner I have ever had happened to be an adult in his late 20s-early 30s(just a guess from where he was in his company), while one of my best owners graduated from college this year.

Yes, it's true a decent amt of trouble comes from younger players. But, it's not physical age that matters in this case. It's mental. And boy do I know some adults who have the mental age of a 2 year old

[IatricSB]

Agreed. As for the one I mentioned, I have no idea how old he is and never really considered his age an issue.