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IatricSB · 08-27-2003, 11:57 AM

Does anyone have a picture of SS Charlie Hollocher. I haven't seen a set yet that did (but I haven't seen all).

eriqjaffe · 08-27-2003, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by IatricSB
Does anyone have a picture of SS Charlie Hollocher. I haven't seen a set yet that did (but I haven't seen all).

I love eBay.

--Eriq.

Tiger Fan · 08-27-2003, 12:15 PM

from my yet to be released 1918 rookie set

IatricSB · 08-27-2003, 12:25 PM

Great... Thanks both of you. Now if I can figure out how they colorized them ;-)

TC Dale · 08-27-2003, 12:32 PM

This stuff is fantastic!

Jeff Olsen · 08-27-2003, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Tiger Fan
The following players do not have images
Les Backman P 1909-10 SLN 47 career games
Cuke Barrows OF 1909-12 CHA 32 career games
Joe Bernard 1909 SLN 1game
Coonie Blank 1909 SLN 1 game
Ray Brown 1909 CHN 1 game
Jack Bushelman P 1909-1912 Cin/Bos 7 games
Tom Cantwell P 1909-10 Cin 8 games
Chet Carmichael P 1909 Cin 2 games
Dick Carroll P 1909 NYY 2 games
Bill Cooney P-OF 1909-10 Bsn 13 games
Ned Crompton OF 1909-10 SLB,Cin 17 games
Tom Crooke 1B 1909-10 Wsh 11 games
Jim Curry 2B 1909-18 PhA,Det,NYY 10 games
George Daly P 1909 NYG 3 games
Bill Dam OF 1909 BSN 1 game
Eddie Dent P 1909-12 BKN 12 games
Walt DeVoy OF 1909 SLB 19 games
Walt Doane P 1909-10 Cle 7 games
Red Downey OF 1909 Bkn 17 games

I have lots of images from T206 cards so if any of these guys appeared on one I probably have it.

Eriq: I love eBay too!

DRaysGoRocco · 08-27-2003, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Henry
Rocco,

Would you be willing to share the method you used ?

Not a problem. I used Paintshop Pro 8. You can also use Photoshop. What you want to do is cut everything into layers by using the magic wand or the Freehand Selection Tool. Different things can be layered togather, like both of Cobb's socks, his hat and the detroit logo on his jersey because they are all the same color. Same with the players entire uniform, since they are the same color. The idea is to have the least amount of layers as possible, to limit the time.

Once you have everything seperated by layers, you want to colorize them by adjusting the hue and saturation of each layer. you can also brighten or darken them to your liking. If you look at the players shoes, I gave them both the same color, but I darkened Cobb's.

The thing you have to figure out yourself is what color everything will be. You can often tell by the shade of grey. I went back and actually found out what color their uniforms were. Once you know what one color is, you can compare that shade of grey with others.

I'm actually very new to Paintshop pro, and I'm sure I can do more to clean up the image, I just have not yet learned. There are tutorials all over the internet, and I would recommend looking at some of those.

Henry · 08-27-2003, 02:15 PM

I was on the right track.... I have PSP v7 and tried using the Magic Wand set at RGB - but the shades of gray are too close to find a distinction. Does v8 do better - or did you just do a lot of trial and error ?

DRaysGoRocco · 08-27-2003, 02:27 PM

yeah, i'm not a huge fan of the Magic wand because all too often, it covers something out of my desired layer. I can adjust the tolerance, but I'd much rather use the Freehand Selection Tool.

Its easy to blow up the picture to about 800% and then cut it out, so the layer is accurate. It's kind of like going back to Kindergarden and coloring between the lines, only this time we are making the lines.

Also, another hint (you probably know it), if you hold down shift while you are defining the layers, you can add to a previous selection. If you want to subtract, hold down CTRL while clicking.

woburn · 08-27-2003, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by IatricSB
Does anyone have a picture of SS Charlie Hollocher. I haven't seen a set yet that did (but I haven't seen all).

Hehe, your Senators' star shortstop now has a pic on his page

IatricSB · 08-27-2003, 08:42 PM

I also have Charlie in Boys of Summer, MLBC, and GDBA (before he retired), and the Hybrid league before it folded ;-)

woburn · 08-27-2003, 08:46 PM

I guess we'll see if he bounces back in the 1920 QBA the way he bounced back in the 1920 BOS. The big dropoff in 1919 in both leagues is eerily similar...

IatricSB · 08-27-2003, 08:49 PM

I never noticed that before! Thanks for posting the picture. Looks great to finally have a face to the name.

DRaysGoRocco · 08-28-2003, 08:44 AM

What is the law with pictures on a website? Isnt it illegal to make money off of a site using pictures from another site? Is there anyway to get around it, for example, giving credit to the owner?

Tiger Fan · 08-28-2003, 10:56 AM

I believe it would most certainly be considered illegal unless you had permission from the photographer or whoever owned the rights to the images. That is one of the reasons that I never considered charging or requesting a donation for any of my facepacks. (well, that and the fact I doubt anyone would be willing to pay for them :-)

LivnLegend · 08-28-2003, 12:09 PM

Wow, those pics blew my socks off. First rate stuff!!

sporr · 08-29-2003, 06:27 PM

Separated at birth? Hollacher and John Heard?

Portraitmatt · 09-01-2003, 11:00 AM

Look for Charlie Hollocher in batch 621-640, which should be posted by the end of the week.

08-27-2003, 11:57 AM	#21
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	Does anyone have a picture of SS Charlie Hollocher. I haven't seen a set yet that did (but I haven't seen all). __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

08-27-2003, 12:15 PM	#23
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	from my yet to be released 1918 rookie set __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles Last edited by Tiger Fan; 04-18-2007 at 12:39 AM.

08-27-2003, 12:25 PM	#24
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	Great... Thanks both of you. Now if I can figure out how they colorized them ;-) __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

08-27-2003, 12:32 PM	#25
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,977	This stuff is fantastic! __________________ ----------------------------------

08-27-2003, 02:27 PM	#29
DRaysGoRocco Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Offutt AFB, NE Posts: 237	yeah, i'm not a huge fan of the Magic wand because all too often, it covers something out of my desired layer. I can adjust the tolerance, but I'd much rather use the Freehand Selection Tool. Its easy to blow up the picture to about 800% and then cut it out, so the layer is accurate. It's kind of like going back to Kindergarden and coloring between the lines, only this time we are making the lines. Also, another hint (you probably know it), if you hold down shift while you are defining the layers, you can add to a previous selection. If you want to subtract, hold down CTRL while clicking. __________________ "It is the nature of being the general manager of a baseball team that you have to remain on familiar terms with people you are continually trying to screw." - Michael Lewis, Moneyball

08-27-2003, 02:15 PM	#28
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	I was on the right track.... I have PSP v7 and tried using the Magic Wand set at RGB - but the shades of gray are too close to find a distinction. Does v8 do better - or did you just do a lot of trial and error ?

08-27-2003, 08:42 PM	#31
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	I also have Charlie in Boys of Summer, MLBC, and GDBA (before he retired), and the Hybrid league before it folded ;-) __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

08-27-2003, 08:46 PM	#32
woburn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 191	I guess we'll see if he bounces back in the 1920 QBA the way he bounced back in the 1920 BOS. The big dropoff in 1919 in both leagues is eerily similar...

08-27-2003, 08:49 PM	#33
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	I never noticed that before! Thanks for posting the picture. Looks great to finally have a face to the name. __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

08-28-2003, 08:44 AM	#34
DRaysGoRocco Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Offutt AFB, NE Posts: 237	What is the law with pictures on a website? Isnt it illegal to make money off of a site using pictures from another site? Is there anyway to get around it, for example, giving credit to the owner? __________________ "It is the nature of being the general manager of a baseball team that you have to remain on familiar terms with people you are continually trying to screw." - Michael Lewis, Moneyball

08-28-2003, 10:56 AM	#35
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	I believe it would most certainly be considered illegal unless you had permission from the photographer or whoever owned the rights to the images. That is one of the reasons that I never considered charging or requesting a donation for any of my facepacks. (well, that and the fact I doubt anyone would be willing to pay for them :-) __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

08-28-2003, 12:09 PM	#36
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Wow, those pics blew my socks off. First rate stuff!! __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

08-29-2003, 06:27 PM	#37
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Separated at birth? Hollacher and John Heard? Attached Images

09-01-2003, 11:00 AM	#38
Portraitmatt Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1	Look for Charlie Hollocher in batch 621-640, which should be posted by the end of the week.