OOTP 27 Pre-order download links available now! (MAC+WINDOWS)

[FoolsErrand]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Sorry for the delays, we have tested the fix, and the build is now available on mac. Have fun!

Thanks for all you do! Saved the day.

[LeiterFanatic]

Originally Posted by snakestery2k26

try reading??? it's the 3rd line


" We do have to start with one caveat. We found an issue on macs that we could not release with, so are in the process of fixing that ASAP. We will release the pre-order links for mac shortly, but did not want to delay Windows customers any further."


what is so hard to understand?

You wasted your first ever post on that?

[mcercone]

Thank you for quick fix!! I was worried when you released Windows first because I thought that meant a long delay. Anyway, glad it is ready to go!!

[rwd59]

Originally Posted by TheJeromeandTheFluff

I just launched the game and there are no players on rosters. When you search for players, they all say no players found matching. This is trying an off-season start. It loads fine doing a live start.

Same here. No players on any rosters or free agents.

[kev24fan]

My email just came.

[TheWaterFoxGaming]

Now i don't know if they send out a copy saying you got the game. This is the first time, i'm in the forums. Someone told me you have to sign up for emails about the game or whatever. Like I said, I'm new

[greg_oz]

I just wanted to chime in as a Mac user (and software engineer): sometimes **** happens and this is a small dev team that is building this game - I feel many people here do not respect that.

Bottom line is we still got the Mac version today, as advertised. The team could have held back both Windows and Mac until both were working and released them together - nobody would have been the wiser. But it appears they prioritized getting the working version on Windows out to the majority of their install base as soon as possible, likely knowing they'd take the negative comments about the Mac delay. That seems like good customer service.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by greg_oz

I just wanted to chime in as a Mac user (and software engineer): sometimes **** happens and this is a small dev team that is building this game - I feel many people here do not respect that.

Bottom line is we still got the Mac version today, as advertised. The team could have held back both Windows and Mac until both were working and released them together - nobody would have been the wiser. But it appears they prioritized getting the working version on Windows out to the majority of their install base as soon as possible, likely knowing they'd take the negative comments about the Mac delay. That seems like good customer service.

I'm not a software engineer. I'm only a retired game buyer that buys very few games. I totally agree with everything you said.

I'd add that holding up any version because another had a problem would be counter productive. Part of the payback for putting out the beta is to get a lot more eyes on the game. These eyes find problems that are fixed for the Friday release version. Holding back a working version and losing a day, or only hours of beta to prevent hurt feelings, is not a way to help the game.

[stlcardsfan44]

Originally Posted by rwd59

Same here. No players on any rosters or free agents.

Same here. No rosters loaded when I started the game. Anyone heard anything?

[Bobfather]

Originally Posted by FoolsErrand

I hope you can release the Mac version soon. I don't have a Windows machine. I understand unexpected pitfalls could come up, but if it's a long delay, it will be hard not to feel burned. been lurking this forum most of the day, got to give up for now. I guess my order being on a mac is why I didn't get an email?

This is why they have a pre-order beta.

[pstrickert]

Originally Posted by stlcardsfan44

Same here. No rosters loaded when I started the game. Anyone heard anything?

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...49&postcount=2

[FoolsErrand]

Originally Posted by Bobfather

This is why they have a pre-order beta.

Yeah, they fixed it quickly, and my posts had said "I hope they fix it quickly." So what's the problem, why do you feel a need to post that? I work in the software industry, and I've worked on both small and large teams. If you pay for a product based on the promise of early access, you should be able to access it early. I stand by that statement, and it initially sounded like we could be waiting for a long time. With a delay of a few hours, I don't have a problem with it at all, and there is plenty of evidence of that in what I said. I don't think I said anything in a tone that was out of line, I was respectful and acknowledged that issues can come up. I also expect there to be plenty of issues with the software once I *can* access it. People in this thread are acting like I demanded a copy of what the game will be like on release day. I expect there to be bugs, and I enjoy hunting for them in an effort to be useful.

I could go on, and address the other commenter that quoted me too, but I think it's kind of a waste of space on this thread - & I would just not respond to you, but I do want to highlight how unproductive it is to A) get irritated in the first place and B) keep posting about it in this thread now that the issue is resolved. (I know I'm guilty of the same now -- look what you made me do! ) But seriously, if you wanted to jump on someone there were people that were way more negative in tone than I was.

I do want to also say that I had no problem at all with them releasing the Windows version first, people are putting words in other people's mouths with that. Obviously that was the right move given the situation. I didn't complain about that. The issue would be if Mac wasn't available for most of the pre-order window, I'd want to refund the product so I could buy it on Steam for easier use. That's really all, you're making mountains out of molehills folks...

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by FoolsErrand

Yeah, they fixed it quickly, and my posts had said "I hope they fix it quickly." So what's the problem, why do you feel a need to post that? I work in the software industry, and I've worked on both small and large teams. If you pay for a product based on the promise of early access, you should be able to access it early. I stand by that statement, and it initially sounded like we could be waiting for a long time. With a delay of a few hours, I don't have a problem with it at all, and there is plenty of evidence of that in what I said. I don't think I said anything in a tone that was out of line, I was respectful and acknowledged that issues can come up. I also expect there to be plenty of issues with the software once I *can* access it. People in this thread are acting like I demanded a copy of what the game will be like on release day. I expect there to be bugs, and I enjoy hunting for them in an effort to be useful.

I could go on, and address the other commenter that quoted me too, but I think it's kind of a waste of space on this thread - & I would just not respond to you, but I do want to highlight how unproductive it is to A) get irritated in the first place and B) keep posting about it in this thread now that the issue is resolved. (I know I'm guilty of the same now -- look what you made me do! ) But seriously, if you wanted to jump on someone there were people that were way more negative in tone than I was.

I do want to also say that I had no problem at all with them releasing the Windows version first, people are putting words in other people's mouths with that. Obviously that was the right move given the situation. I didn't complain about that. The issue would be if Mac wasn't available for most of the pre-order window, I'd want to refund the product so I could buy it on Steam for easier use. That's really all, you're making mountains out of molehills folks...

The response to Fabtron's "Mac?" post, the "try reading" post, started an unnecessary fire IMHO.

FWIW I didn't see anything wrong with what or how you posted. All fair enough. However you weren't the only one to post. That doesn't mean I think the responses to the other posts were helpful. It only means all responses weren't directed at you. Take my response. It wasn't directed at anything you said. It was a reply to another Mac user who brought up delaying the PC version. My guess is he commented on that because Matt brought it up in the original post.

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

We will release the pre-order links for mac shortly, but did not want to delay Windows customers any further.

I know my comment on delay was not me putting words in your mouth. My comment on delay was because Matt and greg_oz had brought up the subject.
I was simply agreeing with what they said and noted it wouldn't matter which version was delayed. Either way it would be a mistake.

In any case glad you got it yesterday and I hope you are enjoying it.

[rtagher]

Will we be getting the complete changelist sometime soon?

[cwhitman]

Originally Posted by rtagher

Will we be getting the complete changelist sometime soon?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e...uV9wh_nXVX/pub

is this not the complete changelist? it's in the post

[rtagher]

You're right, I thought there would be a separate post for it but it's right there. Thanks!

[Matt Arnold]

The first update is out: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=367855

[Bobfather]

Originally Posted by Bobfather

This is why they have a pre-order beta.

Because it is a beta.