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This isn't really a valid criticism of PT, though, unless Sporer massively screws up the balance between pitchers, hitters, and fielders. Even then, there will still be bad, good, and better pitchers in a comparative model. It's not like the Ruth card is facing little league kids. He's facing former (and occasionally current or future) major league pitchers. At the top end, we can argue whether Tom Glavine was as good as Walter Johnson, but no one will argue that Glavine wasn't much better than teenage amateurs. |
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In league, if a league of Babe Ruths batted against a league of 40 overall pitchers, the stats of the babes would be the same if they batted against a league of cy youngs.
In tournament, the average batting line would be like .400/.650/1.000
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Just Need ...
... a Pitcher and Catcher.
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My take is that trying to balance everything without some sort of normalization structure would be a nightmare, and that it would end up producing wildly fluctuating results from week to week, depending on which particular hitters and pitchers are available and which are used. Moreover, we aren't talking about little league hitters or pitchers. We're talking about quality players of varying degrees, and normalization to the mean of league average is a reasonable way to handle it. My only quibble with OOTP's normalization is that it seems to overcompensate for good or bad starts by pushing in the opposite direction, in effect not just regressing to the mean but also adjusting the mean in an attempt to match the expected outcome. If a .250 hitter only hits .200 in the first half, we should expect that player to hit .250 in the second half and finish at .225. Instead, what I frequently see happening is the player exceeding his mean by hitting .300 in the second half to produce an end result of .250. This is, of course, subject to noise and variation in a simulation with so many variables; but it happens often enough to be noticeable, and it happens often enough that it's unlikely to be random variation, especially since the "league average" player tends to marginally improve throughout the week as newer, better players are added to rosters. |
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Yes, those of us with decades of watching mean reversion and regression see it. its the algos. Algos are like uncanny valley. when they are brain dead, they look brain dead. Not just here. Most "AI" right now.
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Not sure if this anecdote is useful, but I am sure the sim will adjust results by squeezing or expanding the difference between batter and pitcher as the season progresses. It be nice to find out if adjustments are relative to player ability or it's just a blanket adjustment to everyone. But then they add variance to player ability each season... |
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I prefer the conspiracy theory, in which there is a nerd in a dark room watching your season. As soon as your team comes to life, he takes a giant wrecking ball to ERAs, WHIPs and OBPs.
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Join Date: Mar 2025
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Are we still in 60s weeks? I cannot remember how to see what era we're in while in game. Can someone remind me?
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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We're back in Modern Era as of last week.
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