Is this a bad or good sign

[ianmleavitt]

Originally Posted by bailey

I still do OK with 4 dailies (silver) and 3 PD slots. I'm giving up on the quicks because they are not stopping people from using bots to enter. That's a violation of the TOS for the exact reason stated: it gives an enormous advantage to scoop up packs over those who have to enter manually. They could program it so everyone can re-enter a quick automatically for 24 hours and eliminate the advantage of the bot spam.

Okay, I'll bite - what makes you think people are using bots to enter quicks?

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by BlueSamuraiG

You should see the discord sometimes

I have seen Discord when it started. It is not the place for me. Too many people talking at once.

[HRBaker]

I'm one of those "oldtimers" that drops in irregularly to see what, if anything, has changed. I have had 4 teams since day one, and about 5 weeks before the world series I pretty much gave up on PT.

I sold everything I had under 90 and bought a couple of the best players I could afford from the card shop. A couple of the teams did a bit better - pretty much leveled all of them into a Bronze/Silver roller coaster... but it was clear there was nowhere to go (translate that to "no fun") for the rest of the ride.

Unless I put $$ into the game (and a lot of it), nothing was going to change until V26 when I get to start over.

It's a 6 month game (at most) for F2P'rs, period. After that the best you can do is play .500 in Silver or Bronze with the occasional promotion/relegation to the same two levels.

Back to the OP's question; A lot of people gave up from V24 to V25 after experiencing a game that wasn't any fun after 6 months, and simply didn't come back to V25. I suspect the same might happen for V26. Personally I'll start with V26 since I mostly play the classic game now... but I suspect I won't even last to the World Series in PT this time .

I'm resigned to the fact that my original love for the game is in Classic mode. PT is just a distraction for a few months.

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by HRBaker

I'm resigned to the fact that my original love for the game is in Classic mode. PT is just a distraction for a few months.

A distraction that is not as shiny as it used to be, sadly.

[the_mad_monk]

Not a fan of combinators or team chemistry. I have a "Arizona" team since the first week of PT25 launch. Obviously, not enough Diamondbacks cards to win so I expanded the theme to cards of players that appeared with the Diamondbacks. Not enough cards to win. Finally expanded the pool to players that were born in Arizona or played college ball in the state. Only 1 of my 26 active roster doesn't meet that criteria and my Team Chemistry is only 35.94% while being stuck in Bronze purgatory.

Which leads to another pet peeve about PT; missing stars or unusable cards of said stars. As of today, still no Barry Bonds, Luis Gonzalez, Christy Mathewson, Jim Rice. Roberto Alomar, George Brett, Mike Schmidt, Hal Newhouser, Ernie Lombardi, Hack Wilson, Bob Lemon, Sam Thompson, Early Wynn, Earle Combs, Joe Medwick, Paul Waner, Dizzy Dean, Dazzy Vance, Fred Clarke, and Cap Anson just to name a few. And plenty of other HoF players only have sub Diamond cards.

[diamondgirl]

Originally Posted by the_mad_monk

Not a fan of combinators or team chemistry. I have a "Arizona" team since the first week of PT25 launch. Obviously, not enough Diamondbacks cards to win so I expanded the theme to cards of players that appeared with the Diamondbacks. Not enough cards to win. Finally expanded the pool to players that were born in Arizona or played college ball in the state. Only 1 of my 26 active roster doesn't meet that criteria and my Team Chemistry is only 35.94% while being stuck in Bronze purgatory.

Which leads to another pet peeve about PT; missing stars or unusable cards of said stars. As of today, still no Barry Bonds, Luis Gonzalez, Christy Mathewson, Jim Rice. Roberto Alomar, George Brett, Mike Schmidt, Hal Newhouser, Ernie Lombardi, Hack Wilson, Bob Lemon, Sam Thompson, Early Wynn, Earle Combs, Joe Medwick, Paul Waner, Dizzy Dean, Dazzy Vance, Fred Clarke, and Cap Anson just to name a few. And plenty of other HoF players only have sub Diamond cards.

Ya I don't totally get how chemistry is calculated into the sim.

But I do have an only Blue Jays roster. 96%. Finishing up a 110 win season in the1st rookie season after entry pool.

My team full of perfects is stuck in silver / gold forever .

[Fabtron7]

Originally Posted by the_mad_monk

As of today, still no Barry Bonds, Luis Gonzalez, Christy Mathewson, Jim Rice. Roberto Alomar, George Brett, Mike Schmidt, Hal Newhouser, Ernie Lombardi, Hack Wilson, Bob Lemon, Sam Thompson, Early Wynn, Earle Combs, Joe Medwick, Paul Waner, Dizzy Dean, Dazzy Vance, Fred Clarke, and Cap Anson just to name a few. And plenty of other HoF players only have sub Diamond cards.

Bonds won’t be in PT because he’s not part of the MLBPA and hasn’t been in PT for years. Alomar and Anson won’t be in because they’re on OOTP’s “bad person” list, which is more of an arbitrary pick and choose thing.

The rest are great and should be in the game…

[quizkid]

Originally Posted by the_mad_monk

Which leads to another pet peeve about PT; missing stars or unusable cards of said stars. As of today, still no Barry Bonds, Luis Gonzalez, Christy Mathewson, Jim Rice. Roberto Alomar, George Brett, Mike Schmidt, Hal Newhouser, Ernie Lombardi, Hack Wilson, Bob Lemon, Sam Thompson, Early Wynn, Earle Combs, Joe Medwick, Paul Waner, Dizzy Dean, Dazzy Vance, Fred Clarke, and Cap Anson just to name a few. And plenty of other HoF players only have sub Diamond cards.

We are only about 65% of the way through the content program. Most of these will be there by the end (except those noted by Fab), just have patience.

[Stephen_Romine]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

A distraction that is not as shiny as it used to be, sadly.

I think you both sum it up for me. I love the first part of building a team early on, but at some point, it just slowly slips away. I keep playing less PT and more Classic each year.

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[Ty Cobb]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

Current ownership reminds me of the sickly Baron in Dune exhorting his nephews to "Squeeze." The $pice must flow. The more people that leave PT, the more they squeeze the love of PT from rest of us. My hazel green eyes are now a bright shade of iridescent blue

Well said, Kushiel. We are near the point of the Butlerians I fear.

[Fabtron7]

Just when I thought this game couldn’t get nerdier

[Ty Cobb]

First read Dune in seventh grade. Still find it quotable and a source of solid inspiration. You’ll forgive me, but it’s a tad more intellectual and developed than say…Twilight…or Star Wars.

[Fabtron7]

Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

First read Dune in seventh grade. Still find it quotable and a source of solid inspiration. You’ll forgive me, but it’s a tad more intellectual and developed than say…Twilight…or Star Wars.

BITE YOUR TOUNGE SIR!

- Team Edward

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

First read Dune in seventh grade. Still find it quotable and a source of solid inspiration. You’ll forgive me, but it’s a tad more intellectual and developed than say…Twilight…or Star Wars.

I read it in '65 and still have my hardback, (my wife is ecstatic that I use a Kindle now) but I was ln HS already. I used Herbert then to fill the gap after Heinlein. It is much better than either movie. My daughters talked me into reading Twilight, and it is all fluff. I stopped after one of those!

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

Well said, Kushiel. We are near the point of the Butlerians I fear.

Great catch, Ty.

[Ty Cobb]

Originally Posted by Fabtron7

BITE YOUR TOUNGE SIR!

- Team Edward

Just a good natured jab, Fab.

[Fabtron7]

Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

Just a good natured jab, Fab.

I think gig missed the Team Edward part… I got it

[BusterKing]

Originally Posted by daveydigi420

Well said, I feel the same. Combis have ruined PT for me, if they're in place next year I'm out.

The only thing missed in the previous response, which might be a conspiracy theory on my part, is that I like the 55:45 live to historical ratio increase, but they have messed with the QUALITY of non-live cards you get. I'm convinced of this. I get many multiples of the same inexpensive cards, which happened even early on in the season. I guess I always thought the odds of ANY non-live diamond card was the same. Now I am convinced there's something in the algorithm that factors in the L10 price, date of release, something to make them more rare and hold their value longer.

It feels different this year, or maybe I just have the coincidence of getting the same 4k-6k L10 priced diamonds and 1300-1600 priced golds, while everyone else is having fire-pulls, but I don't think I can be convinced that they haven't messed with the card dispensing algorithm this year. The conversation of "let's increase the number of non-live cards people get, but still make it really difficult to get good cards" seems very likely to have happened in the production meetings. I think they did this, and it messed with the game for me, along with all the other stuff.

Also, just do away with perfect packs. They should be no more. If you've done all that work, all those cards and missions, won that tournament, just hand out some non-live perfect packs, man. I won a weekly 128 team tournament early in the year, before they had released tournament edition cards (for whatever reason) and so received a perfect pack! Got a live perfect, worth 20k. The cheapest L10 for a perfect tourney edition at this point in the season is over 200k. What a letdown. Make PT fun again, not an absolute gut punch.

Combinators are like players on steroids. Yes they have ruined the game for the sake of money. It's all pay to win now, no skills required!

[HRBaker]

I said months ago; there are over 20,000 historical major league players. Most players have an average career length of 5.5 years. That results in a possibility of 110,000 cards.

Apparently that wasn't enough.

[LeeD]

Even more if you focus on monthly or playoff achievements...or bad Opening Day starts. I got one of the Trick-or-Treat cards this week. 1956 Don Newcombe. MVP. Cy Young. OVR is a 40 with horrific ratings and is apparently based on his opening-day start against the Phillies: 2.1 innings, 5 hits, 5 runs, ERA 19.29, FIP 10.08. Fun stuff until you realize that the treat card is probably just a little bit better.