Historical database issues go here.

[Trav876]

Rookies aren't importing in historical mode. It loads and it is just blank with no players in the pool. I checked the league settings and they all look like they check out correctly. I also did an experiment- imported the OOTP 24 game which DID load historical rookie database correctly, and it did not load correctly in 25.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by Trav876

Rookies aren't importing in historical mode. It loads and it is just blank with no players in the pool. I checked the league settings and they all look like they check out correctly. I also did an experiment- imported the OOTP 24 game which DID load historical rookie database correctly, and it did not load correctly in 25.

Can you give more information about the set-up and what specifically is happening? I took it that you are trying to manually import an MLB player using their rookie year and it wasn't working. I tried importing willite01 in 1939 and Ted Williams came in as he should... but maybe I am misunderstanding the issue. Let us know more and so OOTPD can get it sorted - thanks!

EDIT: I'm rereading this and I think that you have rookies going to their historical MLB debut teams. The choice of how rookies come in is on Step 2 of the Historic Game Wizard now and defaults to rookies to their appropriate team. Since you have started the game already, go to League Settings>>Rules, and then look halfway down on the right-had side to see if the Amateur Draft is turned on.

[niu354]

I'm seeing some suspicious looking service time calculations. Posting two examples of players that should have slightly over 1 year but instead have nearly 2 years. I think it's counting more than just the brief call-up these guys got in 1968 as major service time.

Not a huge deal in the reserve clause era, but more impactful in saves post-1975.

[pitch62]

Don't know if this is what you're looking for and this is just a minor detail.
I manually import historical players with my league starting in 1895, When I enter the id, I also have to change the "enter season year every time". It's always at 1977.
Thanks

[tem316]

Location: Virginia
Posts: 219
Historical Database
Just got notice Draft Pool available for 2011 Draft. Three players total in the database. 2011 Historical Career Mode.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by tem316

Just got notice Draft Pool available for 2011 Draft. Three players total in the database. 2011 Historical Career Mode.

Did you change the time of year of the draft? Sometimes this can happen if you set the draft to earlier in the year.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Did you change the time of year of the draft? Sometimes this can happen if you set the draft to earlier in the year.

Or because default is to assign rookies to their debut team and they missed changing it in Step 2 of the Historical Game Wizard and only changed it after the game started.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Or because default is to assign rookies to their debut team and they missed changing it in Step 2 of the Historical Game Wizard and only changed it after the game started.

Yeah, that could be too.

[tayloraj]

I have encountered the same problem of historical draft pools not populating properly. I have the amateur draft enabled and scheduled for November 15, with draft pool reveal 90 days in advance.(August 17).

However, when the draft pool is revealed on August 17 the only players listed are those who were drafted but did not sign the previous season. Then, on November 15th all the players who should be in that year's draft class are suddenly generated and appear in the draft pool.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by tayloraj

I have encountered the same problem of historical draft pools not populating properly. I have the amateur draft enabled and scheduled for November 15, with draft pool reveal 90 days in advance.(August 17).

However, when the draft pool is revealed on August 17 the only players listed are those who were drafted but did not sign the previous season. Then, on November 15th all the players who should be in that year's draft class are suddenly generated and appear in the draft pool.

Historical mode only loads the new players for the next season after the season is over, so this is working as designed.

[BPS]

Mistake in age.

Tuck Turner appears as 20 years old in 1893. He was actually 26 years old in that year. His true birth date was Feb 13, 1867 and not 1873.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_Turner
""Tuck" broke into the National League with the Philadelphia Phillies in 1893 at the age of 26, but as was a common practice in baseball at the time, Turner lied about his age, claiming to be only 20."

2. https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...urnetu01.shtml
also has him as 26 in 1893 with birth date of Feb 13, 1867.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by BPS

Mistake in age.

Tuck Turner appears as 20 years old in 1893.

Fixed, thanks.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Historical mode only loads the new players for the next season after the season is over, so this is working as designed.

I'm a Steam person, so I don't have game yet. That being said, how will this work when playing random debut. The game has always released the names of the players in the upcoming draft on draft reveal day. Heck, I'm almost positive that it did so for historical leagues as well.

[Daniel_09]

Originally Posted by David Watts

I'm a Steam person, so I don't have game yet. That being said, how will this work when playing random debut. The game has always released the names of the players in the upcoming draft on draft reveal day. Heck, I'm almost positive that it did so for historical leagues as well.

That's right, I just play historically and bring the draft forward to June so that during that season they can see action in the minors, and 90 days before the draft I receive the list of players without any surprises.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Daniel_09

That's right, I just play historically and bring the draft forward to June so that during that season they can see action in the minors, and 90 days before the draft I receive the list of players without any surprises.

I never change the date of reveal day or the draft. One of the best things in life is draft pool reveal day in a random debut. Will suck if we have to wait till draft day to find out the new players. Ugh!

[Lukas Berger]

If this is not behaving as in past years, it's likely a bug. I just thought from the descriptions that is was similar to previously if you changed the draft date. But I could be 100% wrong on that!

[tayloraj]

It's behaving differently from past versions.

From what I've been able to determine, in OOTP25 the full draft pool will populate on the draft pool reveal date only if the draft pool is revealed after the season ends. Setting the draft pool reveal date during the season will lead to only players who were drafted but did not sign during the previous year populating on the draft pool reveal date, and everyone else suddenly populating on the actual draft day or very shortly before (~ 2 days before).

I am using the default amateur draft date of November 15, which almost always falls after the season has ended (don't know if that's relevant but wanted to include).

In previous versions of the game you could set the draft pool reveal date to a day during the season and all players in that year's draft class would populate on draft pool reveal day.

[mikecos23]

Seeing a one year age discrepancy between Stats and Real Life Stats. In this example Righetti is shown as 25 years old for 1984 in his Stats line, but if I look at his Real Life Stats he is shown as 26 years old in 1984. Checked a few players and it looks the same for them as well. Honestly maybe previously versions have always been like this but since I was in beta I'm looking at every detail

MacOs version, build 45 beta

New Historical Game using the Historical League Creation Wizard
Challenge Mode off
1985 Start -> Import Complete History up to 1985 (checked)
Career Mode (Checked)
Import Real Minor Leagues (1915+) (Checked)
Enable automatic import of financial settings (Checked)
Use talent ratings and OOTP dev engine
Automatic expand league (Checked)
Hold expansion draft (Checked)

[Edster007]

Was doing a quick sim of history as I normally do with each new addition. Went to search for certain players to see how their careers went I stumbled upon this, hundreds of players and coaches with the first name ballplayer. clicked on a few none made it to MLB and I had no minor leagues

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by Edster007

Was doing a quick sim of history as I normally do with each new addition. Went to search for certain players to see how their careers went I stumbled upon this, hundreds of players and coaches with the first name ballplayer. clicked on a few none made it to MLB and I had no minor leagues

For the top screenshot, the ballplayers, go to those and tell me a few of the Historical Minors IDs. "Ballplayer" is the name of a player when no first name is known to history - there are plenty if real-life minors is toggled on. But with a Historical Minors ID, I can give you a specific example of who these folks are by pasting that ID into Baseball-Reference.

When you say you had no minors, do you mean that you did not import real minors in the Historical Start-up wizard? If that's the case, any other steps taken on game creation out of the default ordinary?